Whole Dog Journal..best And Worst Dog Food Options

[panda]

TLP,

I don't know if you've seen this article before http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/sample/food.html It's quite interesting.

[TeamSnag]

blind taste tests ??? lmao my dogs would eat every plate there lol

[panda]

blind taste tests ??? lmao my dogs would eat every plate there lol

[stormie]

Orijen and Artemis are quite high in protein.
And i am not sure that i agree with those lists either

Artemis also have a full range of puppy, adult, senior and diet foods for different size breeds that do have a lot less protein.

Artemis Fresh Mix Adult contain 23% protein which is around the same as Eagle Pack Holistic, Innova, Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance etc...

The food aimed at my medium to large breed pup is 43%. Too much protein.
Twice as much as Nutro or EP
Personally i think that the BEST food is what your dog does best on, theworst what it does not do well on
I also think that there is no relevance in tellingus that X food is the best when it is not available here
I wont pay $10 to find out that the foodi am feeding my dog is considered BAD when they doamazing on it.
Nutro is not in the same class as Pal,makesme laugh to think it is being comparedtopal.
That is like saying eye fillet steak is the same as a rump

Artemis Med - Lg Puppy:

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 27%
Crude Fat (min) 15%
Moisture (max) 10%
Crude Fiber (max) 3%
Calcium 1.0%
Phosphorus, min. 0.8%
Sodium, min. 0.27%
Zinc, min. 200 mg/kg
Selenium, min. 0.40 mg/kg
Vitamin A, min. 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D, min. 1,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E, min. 300 IU/kg
Omega 6, Fatta Acid, min. 2.6%
Omega 3, Fatty Acid, min. 0.4%

[k9katz]

Orijen and Artemis are quite high in protein.
And i am not sure that i agree with those lists either

Artemis also have a full range of puppy, adult, senior and diet foods for different size breeds that do have a lot less protein.

Artemis Fresh Mix Adult contain 23% protein which is around the same as Eagle Pack Holistic, Innova, Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance etc...

The food aimed at my medium to large breed pup is 43%. Too much protein.
Twice as much as Nutro or EP
Personally i think that the BEST food is what your dog does best on, theworst what it does not do well on
I also think that there is no relevance in tellingus that X food is the best when it is not available here
I wont pay $10 to find out that the foodi am feeding my dog is considered BAD when they doamazing on it.
Nutro is not in the same class as Pal,makesme laugh to think it is being comparedtopal.
That is like saying eye fillet steak is the same as a rump

Artemis Med - Lg Puppy:

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 27%
Crude Fat (min) 15%
Moisture (max) 10%
Crude Fiber (max) 3%
Calcium 1.0%
Phosphorus, min. 0.8%
Sodium, min. 0.27%
Zinc, min. 200 mg/kg
Selenium, min. 0.40 mg/kg
Vitamin A, min. 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D, min. 1,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E, min. 300 IU/kg
Omega 6, Fatta Acid, min. 2.6%
Omega 3, Fatty Acid, min. 0.4%

Can I please just amend this a little. The USA website which I am sure you got these figures from is waiting to be updated. But thank you Stormie for pointing out that Artemis dont just have the high protein "grain free foods" It seems to me some people may think that ALL Artemis is HIGH protein whereas this is not the case, its only the GRAIN FREE that is the high protein content.

Artemis Med - Lg Puppy:

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 27%
Crude Fat (min) 13%
Moisture (max) 10%
Crude Fiber (max) 3%
Calcium 1.5%
Phosphorus, min. 1.1%
Sodium, min. 0.2%
Zinc, min. 200 mg/kg
Selenium, min. 0.40 mg/kg
Vitamin A, min. 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D, min. 1,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E, min. 300 IU/kg
Omega 6, Fatta Acid, min. 2.5%
Omega 3, Fatty Acid, min. 0.4%

I would ask that everyone also take this example into consideration when worrying that "type B foods contain a lot higher protein than type A foods."

Food A contains 23% protein & 12% fat.
Food B contains 27% protein & 13% fat.

To keep your puppy in an ideal weight range you need to feed 3 cups of type A food a day, however because of the higher protein & fat you only need to feed 2.5 cups of type B food to keep the puppy in the same condition.

A cup weighs approx 100g in both "Holistic Foods" so lets anaylize what the puppy is ACTUALLY consuming each day.

Type A food - The LOWER protein = 300g x 23% = 69g protein ...... Fat 300g x 12% = 36g fat.
Type B food - the HIGHER protein = 250g x 27% = 67.5g protein......Fat 250g x 13% = 32.5g fat.

I would hope that this proves that we need to look further than the percentages of what is actually listed on the bags and to take into account what we actually need to feed of each type of food. This is emphasized even more with the ADULT foods that many advocate for large /giant breed puppies.

Adult food Type C contains 20% protein & 9% fat and yet to keep condition on your pup you need to feed 350 g per day. Your pup is getting 70g protein per day and 31.5g fat per day.

Food for thought?

[Flaves]

There was a thread not long ago...

http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...temis&st=15



eta apologies it was the grain free one
http://k9katzkitchen.com.au/store/index.ph...at&catId=34

This post has been edited by i haz flava!: 28th Feb 2008 - 08:19 PM

[Odette]

Ordered the Artemis Fresh Mix last night for cat and puppy from K9 Katz, got it today at lunchtime (wonderful service!).