What's Wrong With My Puppy's Foot? Options

[Nekhbet]

I used the normal giant breed in the purple striped bag for my Dogue de Bordeaux. The kibble is quite small so your pup should not have an issue chewing it.

your dog will have an average growth rate on this food as its not very high in protein compared to most foods BUT it is very well balanced. I only recommend it as I have used it myself.

[ksmith]

I used the normal giant breed in the purple striped bag for my Dogue de Bordeaux. The kibble is quite small so your pup should not have an issue chewing it.

your dog will have an average growth rate on this food as its not very high in protein compared to most foods BUT it is very well balanced. I only recommend it as I have used it myself.

Thanks for that, I will track some down over the weekend. I am currently using Artemis, but I read the article b the Great Dane Lady and she also recommended Eagle Pack. In the meantime I have cut back to just three half-cup meals of Artemis

[puggy_puggy]

I used the normal giant breed in the purple striped bag for my Dogue de Bordeaux. The kibble is quite small so your pup should not have an issue chewing it.

your dog will have an average growth rate on this food as its not very high in protein compared to most foods BUT it is very well balanced. I only recommend it as I have used it myself.

Thanks for that, I will track some down over the weekend. I am currently using Artemis, but I read the article b the Great Dane Lady and she also recommended Eagle Pack. In the meantime I have cut back to just three half-cup meals of Artemis

1 1/2 cups of food still seems like a massive amount for a 4kg puppy. But I don't feed dry food so I could be wrong. Are you still feeding other things as well?

[ksmith]

I used the normal giant breed in the purple striped bag for my Dogue de Bordeaux. The kibble is quite small so your pup should not have an issue chewing it.

your dog will have an average growth rate on this food as its not very high in protein compared to most foods BUT it is very well balanced. I only recommend it as I have used it myself.

Thanks for that, I will track some down over the weekend. I am currently using Artemis, but I read the article b the Great Dane Lady and she also recommended Eagle Pack. In the meantime I have cut back to just three half-cup meals of Artemis

1 1/2 cups of food still seems like a massive amount for a 4kg puppy. But I don't feed dry food so I could be wrong. Are you still feeding other things as well?

No that's all I am feeding. On the back of the pack it says for a 5-10lbs puppy between 6 and 11 weeks to feed between 1 and 1/3 to 2 and 1/4 cups per day. She's 8lbs 8oz so I figure that is a little less than their suggestion. Don't know if my maths is quite right, I think so. But is that still too much do you think?

[Nekhbet]

dog food bags tend to be terrible over ... my 60kg Dogue now eats about 3-4 coffee mugs of dry food a day the packet says he needs about double that but you use what you think is right. If the pup is a good weight a couple of chicken necks are good as well.

[puggy_puggy]

dog food bags tend to be terrible over ... my 60kg Dogue now eats about 3-4 coffee mugs of dry food a day the packet says he needs about double that but you use what you think is right. If the pup is a good weight a couple of chicken necks are good as well.

But feeding what someone thinks is right I would say is a major cause of knuckling because they are infact feeding to much. That's why dry dog foods are very confusing as you have no idea of really how much to feed.

If you feed a BARF diet then you pretty much know exaclty how much to feed and are able to weigh it.

[ksmith]

dog food bags tend to be terrible over ... my 60kg Dogue now eats about 3-4 coffee mugs of dry food a day the packet says he needs about double that but you use what you think is right. If the pup is a good weight a couple of chicken necks are good as well.

I guess they want to you to use more and buy more. Maybe cut back even more then?

[ksmith]

dog food bags tend to be terrible over ... my 60kg Dogue now eats about 3-4 coffee mugs of dry food a day the packet says he needs about double that but you use what you think is right. If the pup is a good weight a couple of chicken necks are good as well.

But feeding what someone thinks is right I would say is a major cause of knuckling because they are infact feeding to much. That's why dry dog foods are very confusing as you have no idea of really how much to feed.

If you feed a BARF diet then you pretty much know exaclty how much to feed and are able to weigh it.

By the way...that photo of pippy and poppy at the end of your link is so cute, best of luck!

[puggy_puggy]

Coming from a BARF feeder I would say consider feeding her BARF and get rid of the dry food. You were already feeding BARF patties so continue with them but add either chicken necks and/or other raw meaty bones as well. Remeber to weigh everything so that it is only 10% of your girls weight daily.

[Nekhbet]

puggy pug I love a BARF diet as well, dry food is a little more specific in their percentages. Batches have to be tested to fit in with guidelines whereas raw food changes between seasons and the animals it comes from. I would see no reason to go onto BARF completely if the dog gets better or a good dry food makes no difference after a couple of months.

[Melbomb]

Thanks for that, I will track some down over the weekend. I am currently using Artemis, but I read the article b the Great Dane Lady and she also recommended Eagle Pack. In the meantime I have cut back to just three half-cup meals of Artemis

If you do change her dry food make sure to change her over gradually.

I hope the second opinion you get is a better diagnosis.

[neatz]

dog food bags tend to be terrible over ... my 60kg Dogue now eats about 3-4 coffee mugs of dry food a day the packet says he needs about double that but you use what you think is right. If the pup is a good weight a couple of chicken necks are good as well.

I guess they want to you to use more and buy more. Maybe cut back even more then?

No they don't want you to buy more. The amounts listed on the bag is a guideline. You then look at your dog and assess whether you need to cut back or increase quantity depending on its body score or body condition. The same would apply with barf. You don't just stick to a rigid amount. You need to consider the amount of energy your dog requires for growth, heavy exercise, recovering from surgery, pregnancy etc. It's not black and white and there are times when adjustments need to be made.

[laffi]

Artemis large breed puppy should be much better than Eagle Pack large breed puppy because of its superior ingredients.

[ksmith]

Artemis large breed puppy should be much better than Eagle Pack large breed puppy because of its superior ingredients.

Thanks Laffi

[Nekhbet]

Crude Protein min. 23.0%

Crude Fat min. 12.0%

Crude Fiber max. 3.5%

Moisture max. 10.0%

377 ME (Kcal/cup)

Calcium min. 1.5%

Phosphorus min. 1.0%

Vitamin A min.22,000 IU/kg.

Vitamin Emin.165 IU/kg.

Sodium min. 0.34%

DHA min. 0.1%*

Omega 6 min.2.1%*

Omega 3 min.0.65%*

Glucosamine min.400 ppm; 41 mg/cup*

this is eagle pack giant breed

Crude Protein. min 27% Crude Fat, min 13% Crude Fibre, max 3% Moisture, max 10% Vitamin E, min 300IU/kg Biotin, min 0.33mg/kg Omega-6 Fatty Acids, min 2.5% Omega-3 Fatty Acids, min 0.4% DHA ( Docosohexaenoic Acid),min 0.05%

Calorie Contents Calculated ME-3,500kcal/kg 327kcal/Cup (250ml) Calculated on an as-fed basis.

artemis

The ingredient qualities are similar its just what they use that is different. Eagle pack is corn, rice whereas artemis is potatos, brown rice, oatmeal and millet. Its the protein ratios that should matter at the moment.