This is a list complied by the Whole Dog Journal
It then comes down to which food off of the good list works well for your particular dog

Best Dry Dog Food:
DRY FOODS:
Addiction Foods
Artemis
Azmira
Back to Basics
Bench & Field Holistic Natural Canine
Blue Buffalo
Burns
By Nature BrightLife
By Nature Organics
California Natural
Canidae
Canine Caviar
Chicken Soup for the Pet Lovers Soul
Cloud Star Kibble
Drs. Foster & Smith
Eagle Pack Holistic Select
Evangers Super Premium
Evolve
Firstmate Dog Food
Foundations (Petcurean)
Fromm Four Star Nutritionals
Go! Natural (Petcurean)
Hund-N-Flocken (Solid Gold)
Innova
Innova EVO
Karma Organic
Lick Your Chops
Life4K9
Lifespan (Petguard)
Merrick Pet Care
Mmillennia (Solid Gold)
Natural Balance Organic
Natural Balance Ultra Premium
Newmans Own Organics
NutriSource
Organix (Castor & Pollux)
Petguard Organic
Performatrin Ultra
PHD Viand
Pinnacle
Prairie (Nature's Variety)
Premium Edge
Prime Life Plus
Raw Instinct (Nature's Variety)
Royal Canin Natural Blend
Royal Canin Veterinary Diet Potato and Rabbit
Showbound Naturals
Timberwolf Organics
Ultra Holistic (Nutro)
VeRUS
Wellness
Wenaewe
Wysong
Zinpro



Worst Dry Dog Foods:

Beneful
Cycle Adult
Dad's Bite Sized Meal
Diamond Premium Adult Formula
Excel Lamb Meal & Rice
Gravy Train
Happy Tails
HiPro Dog Food
Iams Lamb Meal & Rice
Kibbles & Bits Homestyle Chicken & Vegetable
Max Adult (Nutro)
Maxximum Nutrition
Natural Choice Adult Lamb & Rice (Nutro)
Nature's Recipie "Breed Specific"
Nutra Nuggets Adult Maintenance
Ol' Roy
Pedigree
Purina Dog Chow
Purina One Total Nutrition
Science Diet Adult
Science Diet "Nature's Best With Real Beef..."


Best Canned Dog Foods:

WET/CANNED FOODS:
Addiction Foods
Advanced Pet Diets
Artemis
Avo-Derm
Azmira
Blue Buffalo
By Nature Organics
California Natural
Canidae
Chicken Soup for the Pet Lovers Soul
Drs. Foster & Smith
Eagle Pack Holistic Select
EntrÃe for Dogs (Three Dog Bakery)
Evangers For Dogs
Evolve www.evolvepet.com
Fromm Four Star Nutritionals
Innova
Innova EVO
Lamaderm
Lick Your Chops
Merrick
Natural Balance
Natural Life
Neura Meats (Old Mother Hubbard)
Newmans Own Organics
Nutro Natural Choice
Organix (Castor & Pollux)
Performatrin Ultra
Petguard Organic
Pet Promise
Pinnacle
Prairie (Nature's Variety)
Precise Plus
Sensible Choice
Showbound Naturals
Solid Gold
Spots Stew
Triumph
VeRUS
Wellness



Worst Canned Dog Foods:

Iams
Eukanuba
Ol' Roy
Pedigree
Science Diet

Where does Natures' Gift fit in?


If you typed that all out, kudos!

Is that from the U S ?

I think it's an American journal and this is a list of foods available in US.
Since Nature's Gift is Australian it's not on the list.

How interesting, I always thought Nutro was a really good food

I think it overlaps well with
http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/

Thanks Laffi

*runs off to read about dog food*

Thanks for that!

So what is Artemis please?

Artemis Pet Food Company, Inc. is a manufacturer and supplier of holistic pet foods. Established in 1998, and based in North Hollywood, California on the premise that an animal's health starts with its diet.

This dog food has been on 'The Whole Dog Journal's' (American) recommended and approved dry dog food list for several years.

I'm waiting on Artemis Fresh Mix Adult sample.I should get it tomorrow - 23% Protein. 14% Fat. No corn, no wheat, no beet pulp.

This formula is especially for medium and large breed adults of normal activity levels. My dog is in between small to medium size, he's about 11.5kg.

Another formula is Fresh Mix Maximal Dog GRAIN FREE 42% Protein 22% Fat. It's too high in protein as my dog is not all that active.



The following I copied from a website;

All Artemis dog food is made with hormone free human grade protein selected from FDA approved plants. All natural Artemis food does not contain any chemicals, preservatives, artificial additives or by products. Its nutrient profile and palatability is superior. There is no hidden secret they simply use the highest quality ingredients in optimal proportions.


-Seven protein sources, fresh chicken and turkey as well as chicken meal, turkey meal, lamb meal, fish meal and eggs provide the complete amino acid profile.


-Fresh fruits and vegetables potatoes, carrots, peas, apples and cranberries replace hard to digest grains and add natural vitamins and minerals.


-Select herbs promote wellness, reduce body and waste odor and aid the gastrointestinal tract to absorb the nutrients.


-Custom vitamins, minerals, digestive enzymes and balanced levels of omega 3 and 6 make nutrients more bio-available and are essential for overall health.


-The following ten skin and coat conditioners are contained in Artemis dog food, chicken fat, fish meal, flaxseed, canola oil, lecithin, kelp, rosemary extract, sage, vitamin E, and biotin.

Thanks Panda for the info where would one get a sample from? I shall google them and see what it shows :-)

I sent an e-mail to http://k9katzkitchen.com.au/store/index.php I put in a request for a sample.They are located in Melbourne. Delivery to Sydney is only $6.95 for a 6.8kg bag. I'm going to give it a go if my dog likes the sample. I'll still feed him ZiwiPeak for breakfast though. He really loves that stuff.

Orijen and Artemis are quite high in protein.
And i am not sure that i agree with those lists either

OK, there has been heaps of discussion about proteins and dogs diet. The issue arose when the researchers realized that high protein diet caused a lot of health problems with dogs. People understood it as such and decided to keep the protein content low (lower than 30%). What they didn't understand that in these studies the main (80%) protein source was grains. Dogs are having hard time digesting these. So by feeding them heaps of grains they just amplified all the bad effects of feeding grains.

Now if you feed your dogs just meat you will have no such ill effects but some people just don't want to take it as an argument.
Btw if you are on a pray model diet (raw diet) the protein content is very high as well. It's not a bad thing!

In all the grainless foods meat is at least 70% that's why the protein content is so high.

Also have a look at this:
http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/protein.html

Artemis also have a full range of puppy, adult, senior and diet foods for different size breeds that do have a lot less protein.

Artemis Fresh Mix Adult contain 23% protein which is around the same as Eagle Pack Holistic, Innova, Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance etc...

What are the criteria used to make these decisions?.

What is the point in posting this when over 50% of those foods mentioned are unavailable in Australia?.

I got the information from searching and that's how they listed so I wanted to share with members here. You can skip those foods that are unavailable in Australia if they are not of your concern

I think the list posted here may be a bit outdated or a combination of a few years worth. Whole Dog Journal do a review every year and the latest one was done in Feb 2008. Nutro Ultra is on this years list - we don't get that here. The March issue just out also lists the best grain free diets - Orijen and Artemis are on this list. To understand the criteria you would have to subscribe as I am worried about copyright... It's a great publication though for anyone who is interested. They also do a review of the best canned foods which will be later in the year.

Hi Tpl,

Yes, I think I got the 2007 for best dry dog food and a combination of a few years on the others. I would think that what's already listed do remain the same in 2008 with more brands added.

So if I want to find out the criteria used in making these decisions I have to subsrcibe and PAY a fee in order to obtain the information

No doubt there are others who would be interested as well who do not wish to subscribe.

Perhaps Panda if you already subscribe you can post the criteria here for any one's benefit.

tpl, as mentioned there are a lot of products listed that are not available here.

Panda dont see any point is just skipping those that are unavail. here, why dont you do some research on those products that are avail here and just list those?.

Hesapandabear,

To be honest, I didn't want to go through and delete one by one. It's easier to just copy and paste. I hope that helps.

No, not really Panda.

Yes its easy to cut and paste, any one can do that.

My point is why post information that is not applicable here in Australia, there are many more forum members who are resident here than in the US.

The question still arises, what are the criteria used to make any one particular dog food WORST DOG FOOD/ BEST DOG FOOD?

Hesapandabear

It appears to me that you want to make this a big deal. You are right, there is no point why I post those brands that are not available in Australia. As I already gave you my honest answer that I copied from what I found which also listed what's available in Australia. That whole list came from the Whole Dog Journal. I apologise for not making it easier, but there's no need to bash me about this. I hope you are not upset and taking it out on me, because what you feed your dog rate as a 2 star according to http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_re...=1&si=nutro and worst Dry Dog Foods according to Whole Dog Journal.

Regarding the criteria, Tpl has already answered that "To understand the criteria you would have to subscribe" which I'm not. The information I posted WORST DOG FOOD/ BEST DOG FOOD came from the Whole Dog Journal. If you need further information please subscribe.

It is clear to me that you are upset no matter what I have to say (which is hardly). I see no point in responding to you any further.

Be interesting to compare the list to the list of advertisers in Whole Dog Journal.

I'd be interested to see a list as to which foods dogs actually DO BEST on...

I have tried a few different foods that would be in the category of 'the best' and my dogs did poorly on them and better on foods that are in 'the worst'. Every dog is different and while they might have the best quality meats and veges, doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be the best foods...

Whole Dog Journal don't accept any advertising so it enables them to be unbiased and independent. This is why they have to charge their subscribers.

Panda, no I am not upset, it take quite a bit to ruffle my feathers.

All I am asking is what are the criteria used in making these decisions.

I cant see any reason why I should have to PAY in order to obatin this information.

Ok - I found a public listing of the criteria.

I hope I can post this link http://thedogfoodblog.com/page/2/. I just googled the Whole Dog Journal criteria and this came up Got to love Google

The food aimed at my medium to large breed pup is 43%. Too much protein.
Twice as much as Nutro or EP
Personally i think that the BEST food is what your dog does best on, theworst what it does not do well on
I also think that there is no relevance in tellingus that X food is the best when it is not available here
I wont pay $10 to find out that the foodi am feeding my dog is considered BAD when they doamazing on it.
Nutro is not in the same class as Pal,makesme laugh to think it is being comparedtopal.
That is like saying eye fillet steak is the same as a rump

Thanks TPL..if you are able to find the 2008 list, please let us know.

TLP,

I don't know if you've seen this article before http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/sample/food.html It's quite interesting.

blind taste tests ??? lmao my dogs would eat every plate there lol

Artemis Med - Lg Puppy:

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 27%
Crude Fat (min) 15%
Moisture (max) 10%
Crude Fiber (max) 3%
Calcium 1.0%
Phosphorus, min. 0.8%
Sodium, min. 0.27%
Zinc, min. 200 mg/kg
Selenium, min. 0.40 mg/kg
Vitamin A, min. 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D, min. 1,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E, min. 300 IU/kg
Omega 6, Fatta Acid, min. 2.6%
Omega 3, Fatty Acid, min. 0.4%

Can I please just amend this a little. The USA website which I am sure you got these figures from is waiting to be updated. But thank you Stormie for pointing out that Artemis dont just have the high protein "grain free foods" It seems to me some people may think that ALL Artemis is HIGH protein whereas this is not the case, its only the GRAIN FREE that is the high protein content.

Artemis Med - Lg Puppy:

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 27%
Crude Fat (min) 13%
Moisture (max) 10%
Crude Fiber (max) 3%
Calcium 1.5%
Phosphorus, min. 1.1%
Sodium, min. 0.2%
Zinc, min. 200 mg/kg
Selenium, min. 0.40 mg/kg
Vitamin A, min. 22,000 IU/kg
Vitamin D, min. 1,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E, min. 300 IU/kg
Omega 6, Fatta Acid, min. 2.5%
Omega 3, Fatty Acid, min. 0.4%

I would ask that everyone also take this example into consideration when worrying that "type B foods contain a lot higher protein than type A foods."

Food A contains 23% protein & 12% fat.
Food B contains 27% protein & 13% fat.

To keep your puppy in an ideal weight range you need to feed 3 cups of type A food a day, however because of the higher protein & fat you only need to feed 2.5 cups of type B food to keep the puppy in the same condition.

A cup weighs approx 100g in both "Holistic Foods" so lets anaylize what the puppy is ACTUALLY consuming each day.

Type A food - The LOWER protein = 300g x 23% = 69g protein ...... Fat 300g x 12% = 36g fat.
Type B food - the HIGHER protein = 250g x 27% = 67.5g protein......Fat 250g x 13% = 32.5g fat.

I would hope that this proves that we need to look further than the percentages of what is actually listed on the bags and to take into account what we actually need to feed of each type of food. This is emphasized even more with the ADULT foods that many advocate for large /giant breed puppies.

Adult food Type C contains 20% protein & 9% fat and yet to keep condition on your pup you need to feed 350 g per day. Your pup is getting 70g protein per day and 31.5g fat per day.

Food for thought?

There was a thread not long ago...

http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...temis&st=15



eta apologies it was the grain free one
http://k9katzkitchen.com.au/store/index.ph...at&catId=34

Ordered the Artemis Fresh Mix last night for cat and puppy from K9 Katz, got it today at lunchtime (wonderful service!).