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Leg Fracture In 8 Week Old Puppy

#1 User is offline   mersonmalinois 

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 11:52 PM

Our last three puppies (from a litter of 9) were playing (no adults out with them) and the girl pup starting screaming...long story short, she somehow broke the tibia on her right rear leg. Growth plate was unaffected by the break.

She is in a splint now and we're taking her to the orthopedic surgeon on Monday to see if surgery is indicated.

Have any of you dealt with simple fractures in puppies so young? None of our dogs has ever broken a bone, so this is a completely new experience for us.

Thank you for any information. The breed is Belgian Malinois.

Cheers,

Susie

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 12:39 AM

I've cared for a number of pups with broken bones, usually the Tibia or Radius.

Depending on the break itself, there shouldn't be too many issues as the pup grows. Being so young, it can heal very well.

My worry would be that there may be a depletion in the pups calcium levels or another underlying issue as most pups don't break bones when playing (even roughly). A full blood work up might be a good idea just to check that all is as i should be. (as well as checking bone density in the x-rays).

Good luck with the poor bub.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 03:51 AM

Thanks, Cordelia. I appreciate your response very much. Bloodwork was normal as were the x-rays. Just an unfortunate accident that broke our hearts (and the puppy's leg)! I have to say that we will be much more observant in the future when our puppies play in the yard. You just never know what can happen.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 06:11 AM

That is exactly what happened with Diesel! He was playing with Zoe, and I saw when he landed badly and screamed. Up to the vet and he also broke his tibia of his right hind leg! Didn't affect growth plates.

The pins hopefully come out on Wednesday (they will xray first).

Good luck with your little one.

I found keeping him confined the hardest part (and the worry and the cost!)

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 06:17 AM

Excellent news is that the growth plates are not affected.
Clean breaks heal very quickly in most cases with young pups.
Don't be too hard on yourself, pups of that age play rough, and it could quite as easily have happened in a split second right in front of your eyes.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 08:28 AM

How long did Diesel have to have his pins in the bone? I'm hoping the break will not require surgery, but we'll find out for sure tomorrow. If she needs it we will follow through and have it done. I will be sure to share what we find out.

Thank you all again, I truly appreciate your posts. :laugh:

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 05:16 PM

We have only two experiences with broken bones.

One was an 8 week old pup that we had purchased.
The breeder rang us, VERY distraught with the news that she had accidently stepped on the pups leg and broken it.

Ah well.....accidents happen.
Within a month she was strong enough to send down, and as an adult you'd never know she ever broke it.
Healed very fast with just splinting.

The second dog was an adult that had just whelped a litter about a week earlier.
Tilly is her name....AKA "Silly Tilly"

Tilly was inside the house, naturally....taking care of her pups.
Darling Wife let her out in the morning with the other dogs for their morning poop & piddle run.

All the dogs came back....except Tilly.
DW went looking for her and found her looking rather sad and dejected holding one front leg up.
She took one look, and plopped her down in the bed where I was still sleeping. (Division of labour going as per usual)

Her leg was dangling. A clean break through both bones of the lower leg.
(Tibia & fibia???? to show my ignorance?) Only skin holding her paw on.
OUCH!!!!!

X-rays confirmed clean breaks with the bones not even pointing towards each other.
Looked like a need for external pinning etc.

Problem was... she had pups to take care of.
After much discussion, our vet suggested we just splint her until the pups were weaned.
Worst case scenario was felt to be the bones either wouldn't mend, or would mend crooked in which case she could re-break them and pin them properly later.

She made a splint from the case of a large syringe.
Tilly was just fine.
She raised her litter through to weaning, bashing any misbehaving ones up with her new cast.

Come the day we returned to the vet, a new x-ray showed the break was healing nicely.
The vet just said ..."Leave her" "She's doing fine"
Several weeks later the cast came off and she was as good as gold.

To this day, our vet still claims our BARF diet was 90% responsible for her fast recovery and uses Tilly as an example to other dog owners of why they should feed natural.
The recovery totally amazed her and broke all the rules.

Just to introduce the girl herself.....TAH DAH

SILLY TILLY (Complete with cast)

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Now desexed and looking for a forever home btw....hint hint....
is this allowed?
Better ask a mod...bugger...I AM a mod.
Now who do I ask?

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 06:29 PM

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Now desexed and looking for a forever home btw....hint hint....
is this allowed?
Better ask a mod...bugger...I AM a mod.
Now who do I ask?


:rofl: :rofl: I am pretty sure your fine :D :)

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 06:45 PM

Diesel's was a spiral fracture. Pins in for 6 weeks (if he gets them off on Wednesday). They suggested pins and external fixatur because of his size and age (nearly 6 month old GSD) and type of fracture.

He was using the leg right away, but limping a bit for the first few weeks. Now totally weight bearing, and wanting to do more exercise than he is allowed!

If the break is not too bad you may get away with a cast (cross fingers!).

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 09:54 PM

quote....I am pretty sure your fine

Phew...that's a relief.

Postscript for Tilly.
After Tillys splint came off, she limped on it for a couple of weeks.
Obviously still sore to use.
(Anyone ever broken a bone? It hurts MORE...once the cast comes off)

She obviously discovered that the old man (me) was a sucker for a Chihuahua with a sore leg, as she would walk up to me on three legs....I'd look at her and say..."Tilly has a sore leg???"
Then pick her up for a cuddle.

Much later DW informed me that she would be trotting around nicely on all 4 legs until she heard me coming, then all of a sudden hop, hop hop.....
Aw-w-w.. "Poor Tilly. Tilly has a sore leg?"
Up for a cuddle.

Once I was clued into the fact that I was being conned I started watching which leg she held up.
Sometimes it was the wrong one.

Cunning little cow.

That was three years ago, and every now & again she will still try it on for size.
And to be honest...it still works most of the time.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 11:29 PM

She sounds beautiful Jim, what a clever (and naughty :rofl:) girl! :)

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 03:07 PM

Our puppy had surgery today (external fixator). The surgery went well and the surgeon said the bone should heal in 3.5 - 4 weeks. We get to pick her up tomorrow. The trick will be keeping her still while her fracture heals...can hardly wait to tackle that one! :)

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 05:49 PM

Hi All.... recently I had a 11 week old staffy that shattered her elbow.. the vet's advice was to put her down (she is also deaf).... or remove the leg.... I decided to attempt non invasive treatement and a cast was made... She was also crated for 8 weeks.... not once did she attempt to remove the cast.... she is now 5 months old.. and I have to say last weekend competed in her first dog show and came 2nd in a large class.... good luck with your pup... my advice is to make sure she is on a good diet... and keep her as quiet as possible.... I know its hard..

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Posted 21 July 2004 - 06:10 PM

Hi,

Just thought i would throw in my 2 cents, it is far from helpful technically, but it gives hope to situations that have none.

I came to this board asking about a severe injury to my 8 week old pup. I have the x-rays now so will post the photo of it.........be prepared to be SCARED.

This is a dog that an ortho told me should not be able to get up. He saw the xray and not the dog (as i live in darwin) and told me she would be in EXTREME pain and would never walk normally, all the while she was out terrorising my other dogs bounding around like a kangaroo. I told him this.......he was at a loss for words......as all are who have seen her x-rays.

long story short, you would not know this girl has or had an injury, and NOTHING has been done to help her as no-one would touch it as she was too young, and to severly damaged.

Please note that none of the specialist actually met Grace, they all just saw the x-ray and figured she was in pain and couldnt walk.........she was actually a healthy active pup with a slight twist in her hip, as long as you didnt see her x-ray :D.

So there is hope for all Young pups with injury's, miricles do happen :cry:.

see Grace's Xray Below .................

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Posted 21 July 2004 - 06:17 PM

Grace the same week the x-ray was taken, jumping up to get in the bed with mum, and here........4 months later is Grace jumping up on her dad....her favorite thing to do. :cry:.........try and stop the little terror :rofl:.

I try to keep her from playing rough, but was told not to bother, as she had done all the damage she could and let her live a happy life for as long as she still can........she is only getting better with age. :rofl:./........keep in mind she has had NO treatment.......

Not that i would recommend that, it is just not possible to do anything for her.

MIRICLE :D :D

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