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Minimum Age To Sell Puppy are there fines that can be applied here in Australia?

#1 User is offline   Urban-Ed 

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:36 AM

In the US most States require puppies to be a minimum 8 weeks before they can be sold- there are a few with exceptions to 7 weeks and that they should be weaned etc. Doing some research I found this link and so that got me to wondering what are the state regulations, rules and fines that would apply here in Australia.

What I found interesting about the table was that in some states puppies couldn't even be displayed which I believe applies to petstores rather than a breeder allowing prospective people to view puppies.

What are the legalities and realities here?

And this is a question for breeders - Do many of you prefer the pup to be older than 8 weeks?

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:11 PM

View Postsweetpeasmum, on 2nd Feb 2009 - 12:36 PM, said:

In the US most States require puppies to be a minimum 8 weeks before they can be sold- there are a few with exceptions to 7 weeks and that they should be weaned etc. Doing some research I found this link and so that got me to wondering what are the state regulations, rules and fines that would apply here in Australia.

What I found interesting about the table was that in some states puppies couldn't even be displayed which I believe applies to petstores rather than a breeder allowing prospective people to view puppies.

What are the legalities and realities here?

And this is a question for breeders - Do many of you prefer the pup to be older than 8 weeks?




UM... no replies - would this be better suited to another discussion area???

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:13 PM

6 weeks in NSW

8 Weeks from Registered Breeders

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:28 PM

View Postpeibe, on 2nd Feb 2009 - 10:13 PM, said:

6 weeks in NSW

8 Weeks from Registered Breeders



It's illegal to sell a puppy from a breeder or petshop etc under 8 weeks old. That doesn't stop byb giving them away beforehand. Sooty was 5weeks 5 days when my son got her from a work colleague back in 2000.

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:31 PM

i always thought it was 8 weeks, i know of a registered breeder who flew a 7 week, 1 day old puppy a few weeks ago, i questioned him about that, but he said it was legal?

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 07:22 AM

View Postluvsdogs, on 3rd Feb 2009 - 12:28 AM, said:

View Postpeibe, on 2nd Feb 2009 - 10:13 PM, said:

6 weeks in NSW

8 Weeks from Registered Breeders



Sooty was 5weeks 5 days when my son got her from a work colleague back in 2000.


:laugh:

I left my dog with the breeder until he was ten weeks because there's been some research abroad to say that pups are that much better developed to go into a new environment.

So if a registered breeder is 'caught' what would the penalty be if any?

And can any action be taken on a byb?

So many questions I know. Also is there any pressure by, say DOGS NSW or another body to educate pollies about this?

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 08:08 AM

Ethically, registered breeders are not allowed to let pups go until they are at least 8 weeks of age.

I don't know about the legalities, however, our local paper, in the classifieds section under Pets, normally includes a statement to the effect that it is an offense to sell pups under the age of 8 weeks.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 08:09 AM

View PostBonnie Parker, on 3rd Feb 2009 - 12:31 AM, said:

i always thought it was 8 weeks, i know of a registered breeder who flew a 7 week, 1 day old puppy a few weeks ago, i questioned him about that, but he said it was legal?


Possibly legal, but a direct breach of the COE - hardly an ethical breeder.



ETA: Thinking on this more, I had a feeling that at least some of the airlines won't fly pups under the age of 8 weeks. Just checked Virgin Blue, and it is certainly the case for them. Haven't looked at Qantas yet.

Of course, I guess that relies on the honesty of the person sending the pup to a degree, since it's unreasonable to expect airline staff to be able to tell the difference between a 7 week old pup and an 8 week old pup.



ETA: AAE (freight for Qantas) are the same - will not accepts pups under 8 weeks of age.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 10:36 AM

I know of a case where a journalist friend of mice exposed the shipping of pups overseas to countries in asia. The tip off came from a Qantas staffer.

It really sounds like this 'rule' has no teeth if it can't be enforced and there are no fines in place. If you knew the practice was happening who would you call...? :laugh:

I appreciate the input - if anyone has anything more to add that would be helpful...

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 01:00 AM

I know in WA it is at least 8 weeks for a pedigree but others, i dont know as i know of someone who bought a x breed from a petshop and he was bearly 5 weeks old.
I have a litter of staffords who are 3 weeks old(our first) and after some research and a few hints, pups go through a stage of bonding at 8-12weeks of age so i wont be sending mine to their new homes until they are at least 9 weeks...

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 01:05 AM

I know in WA it is at least 8 weeks for a pedigree but others, i dont know as i know of someone who bought a x breed from a petshop and he was bearly 5 weeks old.
I have a litter of staffords who are 3 weeks old(our first) and after some research and a few hints, pups go through a stage of bonding at 8-12weeks of age so i wont be sending mine to their new homes until they are at least 9 weeks...

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 01:05 AM

I know in WA it is at least 8 weeks for a pedigree but others, i dont know as i know of someone who bought a x breed from a petshop and he was bearly 5 weeks old.
I have a litter of staffords who are 3 weeks old(our first) and after some research and a few hints, pups go through a stage of bonding at 8-12weeks of age so i wont be sending mine to their new homes until they are at least 9 weeks...

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 06:42 AM

It's sad when you see people with their new bundles of joy and they have tiny frightened little babies, that have barely cut their teeth and you just know they are nowhere near old enough to have left home.

I like to keep my guys at least a week or two after 8 weeks, if they are doing really well they can go at 9 weeks.

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 06:46 AM

The CCCQ COE states:

"... I shall not sell or otherwise transfer from my care any puppy under eight weeks of age, thus allowing for vaccination to be given at six weeks of age and the necessary fourteen days to take effect..."

"...I shal not export any puppy under (12) weeks of age..."

Between 4-8 weeks is when puppies are taught by their Mum, litter mates, and other dogs at the "kennel" some socialisation skills.

Domestically the age for flying should be 10 weeks.

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 07:35 AM

View PostAllerzeit, on 3rd Feb 2009 - 09:09 AM, said:

View PostBonnie Parker, on 3rd Feb 2009 - 12:31 AM, said:

i always thought it was 8 weeks, i know of a registered breeder who flew a 7 week, 1 day old puppy a few weeks ago, i questioned him about that, but he said it was legal?


Possibly legal, but a direct breach of the COE - hardly an ethical breeder.



ETA: Thinking on this more, I had a feeling that at least some of the airlines won't fly pups under the age of 8 weeks. Just checked Virgin Blue, and it is certainly the case for them. Haven't looked at Qantas yet.

Of course, I guess that relies on the honesty of the person sending the pup to a degree, since it's unreasonable to expect airline staff to be able to tell the difference between a 7 week old pup and an 8 week old pup.



ETA: AAE (freight for Qantas) are the same - will not accepts pups under 8 weeks of age.

We had our puppy flown at 7 weeks 4 days.. it was the only day we could get to the airport to pick her up, otherwise we would had to have waited another 2 weeks. She flew with Virgin Blue and nothing was said.. her birthdate was on the card on her crate and no one noticed.
Having said that, the breeder was ok with sending her then too.. it was only a matter of 3 days. I would have been concerned if she'd said ok to earlier than 7 weeks.

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