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An email I received ..
I know many of you are proud Dog owners and like myself, enjoy taking your dog out to cafes and enjoying a meal in an alfresco area with your pet - obviously with your pet being well behaved and clean etc.
It came to my attention at xmas time that there has been new laws passed in WA recently prohibiting dogs in any alfresco area where food may be served.
Many local councils and restaurant/cafes are refusing to police the new law however the new law also includes fines for the Cafe Owner (not just the dog owner) so it's not up to the Cafe Owner.
The Laws are being rolled out Nationally so if you have any friends or relatives over east, please forward them this email so they may also join the protest.
News article:
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/governme...tml?autostart=1
Please sign the petition if you're in support:
http://www.thepetiti...lfresco-dog-ban
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I take Ivy to cafes and so many people walk past and just adore seeing her sitting there like a good girl and many stop to ask me about her. This is crazy, you're outside and the only food the dog is near, is your own food!
They try to stop things like this and yet they still allow pet shops to sell sick puppies????
Dogs Being Banned From Alfresco Cafes In Wa please sign the petition
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#3
Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:56 AM
Actually, that article is confusing about what is actually being proposed.
All this because FOUR residents of Maylands had a sulk about dogs being at outdoor cafe areas. I bet the little dweebs moved into the neighbourhood because of the friendly cafe society knowing full well dogs went there and are now trying to change things. That's how it usually goes anyway.
Geez, can we ban misery guts people from cafe's????
PS what happens to those dog themed cafes that make doggy-lates and such???
All this because FOUR residents of Maylands had a sulk about dogs being at outdoor cafe areas. I bet the little dweebs moved into the neighbourhood because of the friendly cafe society knowing full well dogs went there and are now trying to change things. That's how it usually goes anyway.
Geez, can we ban misery guts people from cafe's????
PS what happens to those dog themed cafes that make doggy-lates and such???
This post has been edited by spottychick: 30 December 2009 - 10:58 AM
#4
Posted 30 December 2009 - 11:08 AM
spottychick, on 30th Dec 2009 - 08:56 AM, said:
Actually, that article is confusing about what is actually being proposed.
All this because FOUR residents of Maylands had a sulk about dogs being at outdoor cafe areas. I bet the little dweebs moved into the neighbourhood because of the friendly cafe society knowing full well dogs went there and are now trying to change things. That's how it usually goes anyway.
Geez, can we ban misery guts people from cafe's????
PS what happens to those dog themed cafes that make doggy-lates and such???
All this because FOUR residents of Maylands had a sulk about dogs being at outdoor cafe areas. I bet the little dweebs moved into the neighbourhood because of the friendly cafe society knowing full well dogs went there and are now trying to change things. That's how it usually goes anyway.
Geez, can we ban misery guts people from cafe's????
PS what happens to those dog themed cafes that make doggy-lates and such???
Doesn't sound clear to me either and don't really think they have a leg to stand on, well hope they dont.
Makes sense with residents in Maylands whinging .. a suburb where [most] people think they rule the world.
Pure gayness.
#8
Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:33 PM
Am a bit curious as to how the law is being rolled out nationally given the laws re dogs around cafes is a local government issue - not even at state government level. What one council allows may be completely different to another council.
The Sydney City Council has a similar law in effect and has had for some time - its a health related law. However, depends on which neighbourhood you're in here as many rangers ignore it.
The Sydney City Council has a similar law in effect and has had for some time - its a health related law. However, depends on which neighbourhood you're in here as many rangers ignore it.
#9
Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:47 PM
This is more to do with health.
Fremantle council has said a total canine ban is not warranted in such areas, and a "common sense", "risk-based" approach is available under the new regulations.
"The consensus of opinion among environmental health managers within the metropolitan region is that there's scope within the food act legislation to deal with this issue based on risk," Fremantle Environmental Health Coordinator Matthew Piggott said.
"I do not believe that a dog sitting quietly under a table on a public footpath has a negative impact on human health.
"It is certainly appropriate to investigate complaints and take action if dogs are eating off plates or going to the toilet in alfresco areas - that is unacceptable from a public health perspective."
The Health Department spokeswoman said the new regulations allowed for a risk management approach similar to that adopted by Fremantle.
The WA president of a professional association that has 180 health inspector members across the state confirmed this.
"People are taking it a bit out of context," WA President of Environmental Health Australia, Joseph Zappavigna, said of the assumed dog ban.
"Nothing's really changed. It's just that the dog owners have picked up on the latest amendments which were aimed at making the legislation consistent with other states and territories."
But Mr Zappavigna said cafe staff needed to wash their hands immediately after patting dogs, to avoid the transmission of parasites.
"The less animals in food premises, the less chance of disease," he said.
"There's quite a few parasites that are hosted by dogs.
"Parasites are invisible to the naked eye and you won't know (if you're infected) until it's too late."
Mr Zappavigna also warned the risk of canine hair blowing into diners' food was heightened when humans ate close to dogs.
They mention above that quite a few parasite are hosted by dogs as we all live with dogs what harmful parasites are hosted by healthy dogs????? Anyone know???
Fremantle council has said a total canine ban is not warranted in such areas, and a "common sense", "risk-based" approach is available under the new regulations.
"The consensus of opinion among environmental health managers within the metropolitan region is that there's scope within the food act legislation to deal with this issue based on risk," Fremantle Environmental Health Coordinator Matthew Piggott said.
"I do not believe that a dog sitting quietly under a table on a public footpath has a negative impact on human health.
"It is certainly appropriate to investigate complaints and take action if dogs are eating off plates or going to the toilet in alfresco areas - that is unacceptable from a public health perspective."
The Health Department spokeswoman said the new regulations allowed for a risk management approach similar to that adopted by Fremantle.
The WA president of a professional association that has 180 health inspector members across the state confirmed this.
"People are taking it a bit out of context," WA President of Environmental Health Australia, Joseph Zappavigna, said of the assumed dog ban.
"Nothing's really changed. It's just that the dog owners have picked up on the latest amendments which were aimed at making the legislation consistent with other states and territories."
But Mr Zappavigna said cafe staff needed to wash their hands immediately after patting dogs, to avoid the transmission of parasites.
"The less animals in food premises, the less chance of disease," he said.
"There's quite a few parasites that are hosted by dogs.
"Parasites are invisible to the naked eye and you won't know (if you're infected) until it's too late."
Mr Zappavigna also warned the risk of canine hair blowing into diners' food was heightened when humans ate close to dogs.
They mention above that quite a few parasite are hosted by dogs as we all live with dogs what harmful parasites are hosted by healthy dogs????? Anyone know???
#11
Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:03 PM
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Mr Zappavigna also warned the risk of canine hair blowing into diners' food was heightened when humans ate close to dogs.
Crikey, anyone who eats a meal at my place now knows to expect a dog hair in their meal! I never charge extra either
I don't think there's any real cause for alarm here, commonsense will prevail, I'm sure.
#13
Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:56 PM
Rommi n Lewis, on 30th Dec 2009 - 10:56 PM, said:
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Mr Zappavigna also warned the risk of canine hair blowing into diners' food was heightened when humans ate close to dogs.
Well that's done it - I am going to die young!
Rommi -
Ummmmm *cough* ..... what are they going to do about all the free range flies that have a tendency to drop on by when you're eating?
#14
Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:42 AM
Rommi n Lewis, on 30th Dec 2009 - 07:56 PM, said:
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Mr Zappavigna also warned the risk of canine hair blowing into diners' food was heightened when humans ate close to dogs.
Well that's done it - I am going to die young!
Took the words right out of my mouth! What's more, I eat probably as much cat fur as dog fur. Obviously I try to avoid both but really, buckleys chance of that.Much like Arty, I tell people when they come to dinner, "All dog/cat fur is complementary".
Some people have some funny ideas about hygiene, we're a nation of dog lovers, I think it's 60% of Australian homes have one or more dogs, and not one case reported of someone dying from some dog hygiene related issue.
Funny thing is, I found a human hair in some food I bought the other day and thought 'Oh yuk!' but I don't even flinch when I pluck the pet hairs out of my food at home.
#15
Posted 31 December 2009 - 06:17 AM
Would be a shame if anyone did ban dogs. A group of us take our dogs to some dog friendly cafes around once per week. There is always someone chatting to us or saying hello to the dogs.
The cafe owners love it too as it brings in customers that are out walking their dogs, even in the quiet times in winter
ETA we wouldn't stop at these cafes at all if we couldn't sit with the dogs as it has just become integrated with our walks, so they would certainly lose business
The cafe owners love it too as it brings in customers that are out walking their dogs, even in the quiet times in winter
ETA we wouldn't stop at these cafes at all if we couldn't sit with the dogs as it has just become integrated with our walks, so they would certainly lose business
This post has been edited by helen: 31 December 2009 - 06:22 AM
