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Hypoglycemia - Low Blood Sugar Levels In Newborn Puppies Stiff, Rock Hard, Wooden, Go Stiff

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:40 AM

Hypoglycemia also known as stiff puppies, Stiff Puppy Syndrome, Rock hard puppies, Wooden puppies, Go Stiff -
(Any others to help out when others search?)


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What is Hypoglycemia (Low Blood Sugar)?

1. The brain requires glucose (blood sugar) for normal functioning, and unlike many other organs, the brain has a very limited ability to store glucose. As such, the brain is the organ that is most affected when blood sugar gets too low.

2. Low blood sugar can cause seizures.

3. Puppies - especially small breed puppies - are particularly susceptible to low blood sugar because their liver is not able to store sufficient amounts of glycogen, as compared with older dogs.

4. Hypoglycemia can be a life-threatening - even fatal - condition, and is known to be a cause of canine seizures. The occurrence of symptoms depends on how far, and how fast, the blood sugar has dropped

5. Treating Hypoglycemia (Low Blood Sugar): During an attack of hypoglycemia your goal is to stay calm, to bring the blood glucose back to a safe level, to continue to observe your dog. You can contact your veterinarian if you feel you need to.



What you can use - Sandoz, Glucose, Glucodin, Honey, Karo Syrup - Rub into gums.


Previous threads on the subject

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Here


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Does anyone have any they would like to add?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:41 AM

I have asked Troy to pin this for future reference.

Let me know if you have other links etc you want to add.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 11:34 AM

My breed affected was a greyhound. It is very frightening - the puppy arched his neck back, opened his mouth, stuck his legs out and went absolutely rock hard all over. There appeared to be no heart beat.

Sadly, mine didn't make it :-(. Thanks for pinning this topic SwaY, I'd never heard of it before. I really hope I never see it again.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 01:53 PM

Sway, can you add links to research showing "stiff pups" are caused by hypoglycaemia please.

This post has been edited by Jed: 13 March 2011 - 01:54 PM


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Posted 13 March 2011 - 02:37 PM

View PostJed, on 13th Mar 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

Sway, can you add links to research showing "stiff pups" are caused by hypoglycaemia please.


Do you have any you would like to see listed?
Everything I have come across seems to be from breeder experience.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:05 PM

I have no links at all.

The thead on dogzonline you linked to comes up with no conclusive evidence that anything was the cause of stiff puppies. Because you have titled the thread "Hypoglycemia - Low Blood Sugar Levels in Newborn Puppies" I thought you must have found new evidence that the stiff pups were caused by hypoglycaemia.

So, really, as per the link, stiffness is not caused by hypoglycaemia?

Or, rather, sometimes it may be? And there may be many causes as well?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 03:38 PM

I titled it that way to enable people to find the thread when they search for it.
Many will search for stiff puppy, not Hypoglycemia.
What would you rather I title it as?

Stiffness of some degree seems to be a common denominator in many of the puppies who have Hypoglycemia, proven in research papers or not.
You just have to read many of the pages on Hypoglycemia by breeders to see this.

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 08:19 PM

Page 259 of "The Dog Owners Manual" by Dr Karen Hedburg BVSc Third Edition

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Chapter 10 Care of Puppies from Birth to Ten days
3. Hypoglycemia
Severely Hypoglycemic puppies are very listless, too weak to suckle and often will "stiffen up" an go completely rigid.


I recommend people buy a copy, it's full of great info. :thumbsup:

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 06:51 AM

View PostSwaY, on 13th Mar 2011 - 09:19 PM, said:

Page 259 of "The Dog Owners Manual" by Dr Karen Hedburg BVSc Third Edition

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Chapter 10 Care of Puppies from Birth to Ten days
3. Hypoglycemia
Severely Hypoglycemic puppies are very listless, too weak to suckle and often will "stiffen up" an go completely rigid.


I recommend people buy a copy, it's full of great info. :laugh:


Thanks Sway I hope thats it because if it is there is a hope of treating it - however, Im still not conviced that this is what I saw and nor is my vet.

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 10:51 AM

View PostSwaY, on 13th Mar 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

Hypoglycemia also known as stiff puppies, Stiff Puppy Syndrome, Rock hard puppies, Wooden puppies, Go Stiff -
(Any others to help out when others search?)


Quote

What is Hypoglycemia (Low Blood Sugar)?

1. The brain requires glucose (blood sugar) for normal functioning, and unlike many other organs, the brain has a very limited ability to store glucose. As such, the brain is the organ that is most affected when blood sugar gets too low.

2. Low blood sugar can cause seizures.

3. Puppies - especially small breed puppies - are particularly susceptible to low blood sugar because their liver is not able to store sufficient amounts of glycogen, as compared with older dogs.

4. Hypoglycemia can be a life-threatening - even fatal - condition, and is known to be a cause of canine seizures. The occurrence of symptoms depends on how far, and how fast, the blood sugar has dropped

5. Treating Hypoglycemia (Low Blood Sugar): During an attack of hypoglycemia your goal is to stay calm, to bring the blood glucose back to a safe level, to continue to observe your dog. You can contact your veterinarian if you feel you need to.



What you can use - Sandoz, Glucose, Glucodin, Honey, Karo Syrup - Rub into gums.


Previous threads on the subject

Here

Here


Helpful Links

Does anyone have any they would like to add?

My one and only experience with hypoglycemia (and the puppy went into shock) was caused by Coccia in the system. Once treated, the tiny lil thing improved and recovered within 12 hours. Follow up treatments were given and apart from ensuring the blighter was eradicated, or at the very least, managed, there were no further problems. The parasite was introduced via a puppy brought in from another kennel and she was pleased to hear of our encounter as similar symptoms had occurred in other puppies in the litter. Dosing the puppies with glucose only masked the problem which kept reoccurring. The puppies were then able to be treated correctly and the problem eradicated.

Since that episode, at the recommendation of our vet, we treat the mothers immediately after whelping as a safe-guard.

It might be worth considering if you see it in your litters. Coccidia can be lurking in the systems of adult dogs without any symptoms at all and puppies of around 12 weeks gain resistance. A whelping bitch can be under enough stress to shed Coccidia which in turn the puppies pick up.

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 05:47 AM

View PostWags, on 20th Mar 2011 - 11:51 AM, said:

View PostSwaY, on 13th Mar 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

Hypoglycemia also known as stiff puppies, Stiff Puppy Syndrome, Rock hard puppies, Wooden puppies, Go Stiff -
(Any others to help out when others search?)


Quote

What is Hypoglycemia (Low Blood Sugar)?

1. The brain requires glucose (blood sugar) for normal functioning, and unlike many other organs, the brain has a very limited ability to store glucose. As such, the brain is the organ that is most affected when blood sugar gets too low.

2. Low blood sugar can cause seizures.

3. Puppies - especially small breed puppies - are particularly susceptible to low blood sugar because their liver is not able to store sufficient amounts of glycogen, as compared with older dogs.

4. Hypoglycemia can be a life-threatening - even fatal - condition, and is known to be a cause of canine seizures. The occurrence of symptoms depends on how far, and how fast, the blood sugar has dropped

5. Treating Hypoglycemia (Low Blood Sugar): During an attack of hypoglycemia your goal is to stay calm, to bring the blood glucose back to a safe level, to continue to observe your dog. You can contact your veterinarian if you feel you need to.



What you can use - Sandoz, Glucose, Glucodin, Honey, Karo Syrup - Rub into gums.


Previous threads on the subject

Here

Here


Helpful Links

Does anyone have any they would like to add?

My one and only experience with hypoglycemia (and the puppy went into shock) was caused by Coccia in the system. Once treated, the tiny lil thing improved and recovered within 12 hours. Follow up treatments were given and apart from ensuring the blighter was eradicated, or at the very least, managed, there were no further problems. The parasite was introduced via a puppy brought in from another kennel and she was pleased to hear of our encounter as similar symptoms had occurred in other puppies in the litter. Dosing the puppies with glucose only masked the problem which kept reoccurring. The puppies were then able to be treated correctly and the problem eradicated.

Since that episode, at the recommendation of our vet, we treat the mothers immediately after whelping as a safe-guard.

It might be worth considering if you see it in your litters. Coccidia can be lurking in the systems of adult dogs without any symptoms at all and puppies of around 12 weeks gain resistance. A whelping bitch can be under enough stress to shed Coccidia which in turn the puppies pick up.



Mine wasnt caused by coccidia.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 05:33 PM

Thank you so much Sway for having Troy pinning this....it has saved the life of one of my babies.

I lost a greyhound pup from this but hadn't read about this on here (a few years ago now) and i read about it on here later and it saved one of my whippet pups. Not saying all cases are the same but when my pup when rock hard i remembered this and made some very strong sugar water and added it to his milk and he never did it afterwards.

ETA: pup was only 24 hours old

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 11:56 AM

I don't believe that stiff pups are caused by hypoglycaemia.

This thread does not prove these pups had hypoglycaemia - in fact, it proves the opposite. Although some pups probably died of hypoglycaemia, most did not.

I will not be involved with anything incorrect, or leading to incorrect conclusions, so I have deleted all my posts in the thread. Shame really, as there are some good ideas in the thread.

This is what a vet said

""In my experience with this, most of the pups that go rigid, stop breathing and then revived, tend to die soon after. extensive research has been done into the stiffness phenomenon, but no conclusions have been made about it. It remains a mystery in the vet world."

This post has been edited by Troy: 04 December 2011 - 04:27 PM


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Posted 04 December 2011 - 03:36 PM

And yet you waited months to have a go at me and bumped a 9 yr old thread to do so. :laugh:

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 07:07 PM

View PostSwaY, on 04 December 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:

And yet you waited months to have a go at me and bumped a 9 yr old thread to do so. :laugh:


I did mention to you when you bumped it and labelled it "low blood sugar" but you ignored me. I believe Steve also said something about it.

This is what I said

I will not be involved with anything incorrect, or leading to incorrect conclusions, so I have deleted all my posts in the thread. Shame really, as there are some good ideas in the thread

And it was bumped when I deleted my posts. I asked the moderator to remove it, but nothing happened. I certainly didn't bump it on purpose. I don't want any association with it, now that such an incorrect conclusion is appended to it.

This post has been edited by Jed: 04 December 2011 - 07:24 PM


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