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I hope Gibbs makes a full recovery, medicine can do great things these days.
Stem Cell Research
#76
Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:30 AM
Yep, the stem cells can only help repair damaged joints, so either after surgery or from the arthritis associated with ED/HD. Some claim stem cells can alleviate the need for hip replacements, which I believe is misleading. The cells can only repair damage, not remodel bone. If a dog has shallow hips, cells are not going to change the phenotype of an animal. What they can do though is if one had a 10 year old dog, the cells could buy a few more years of mobility without putting the animal through a hip replacement. If I had a young animal though I would do the surgery every time.
I hope Gibbs makes a full recovery, medicine can do great things these days.
I hope Gibbs makes a full recovery, medicine can do great things these days.
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#77
Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:01 PM
My 4 year old bully was diagnosed with a chronic luxating patella . After xrays the specialist said Peanut has really bad arthritis and decided not to operate . The treatment is cartrophen injections to improve the cartilage, and meticam for pain management.
I asked the vet about stem cell treatment as I know his clinic offers it . He told us that it is still experimental and did not recommend it to us at this point in time.
Just clarifying that my vet did not say 'experimental'
Rather he said that the numbers of dogs per thousand that are measured as having positive concrete outcomes are too low to offer the therapy to every dog.
I asked the vet about stem cell treatment as I know his clinic offers it . He told us that it is still experimental and did not recommend it to us at this point in time.
Just clarifying that my vet did not say 'experimental'
Rather he said that the numbers of dogs per thousand that are measured as having positive concrete outcomes are too low to offer the therapy to every dog.
This post has been edited by huck house: 23 February 2012 - 08:05 PM
#78
Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:22 PM
huck house, on 21 February 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:
My 4 year old bully was diagnosed with a chronic luxating patella . After xrays the specialist said Peanut has really bad arthritis and decided not to operate . The treatment is cartrophen injections to improve the cartilage, and meticam for pain management.
I asked the vet about stem cell treatment as I know his clinic offers it . He told us that it is still experimental and did not recommend it to us at this point in time.
I asked the vet about stem cell treatment as I know his clinic offers it . He told us that it is still experimental and did not recommend it to us at this point in time.
My surgeon said much the same yesterday regarding stem cells
#79
Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:27 PM
Not stem cells but Kenz had a series of PRP treatments into her shoulder in a final attempt to resolve what was considered to be a chronic case of biceps tendonitis. To me all treatments have to start somewhere and everything is experimental at some point. If they work and the risks are minimal then why not. One specialist wouldn't even consider it and was basically of the view she needed surgery, the second specialist was happy to follow through and at least give it a go. Nearly 9 weeks have passed and my youngster is the best she has been in ages and ages.
I guess all I am saying is sometimes what one specialist writes off as not worth doing another specialist may see the merit in.
I guess all I am saying is sometimes what one specialist writes off as not worth doing another specialist may see the merit in.
#82
Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:48 AM
Some vets are curious and keep up to date with science, others wait for something to be common place before they accept new things.
For osteoarthritis with close to 10,000 dogs being treated it's not considered experimental anymore. It might seem experimental for some who are not up to date.
WA has been slower to take it up, but that is due to no people over there educating. We do send cells to two vets in WA, NSW colleagues of theirs recommended the use.
For osteoarthritis with close to 10,000 dogs being treated it's not considered experimental anymore. It might seem experimental for some who are not up to date.
WA has been slower to take it up, but that is due to no people over there educating. We do send cells to two vets in WA, NSW colleagues of theirs recommended the use.
#85
Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:17 PM
Here is a link that inevitablue sent to me re the stem cell stuff - http://www.australia...id=49&Itemid=92
#88
Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:11 PM
Keisha, any vet in Australia can order the cells. Have a chat to your vet.
Many are now regular users due to the first case being a dog owner asking to try it. They then see the results for themselves.
I can find out what vets in SA have ordered already.
Edit: sorry, I didn't see your post about your boy. Yes, his condition should respond well, in his case he would most likely be given the cells IV.
Many are now regular users due to the first case being a dog owner asking to try it. They then see the results for themselves.
I can find out what vets in SA have ordered already.
Edit: sorry, I didn't see your post about your boy. Yes, his condition should respond well, in his case he would most likely be given the cells IV.
This post has been edited by Inevitablue: 23 February 2012 - 05:14 PM
#90
Posted 24 February 2012 - 09:27 AM
Inevitablue, on 23 February 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:
Keisha, any vet in Australia can order the cells. Have a chat to your vet.
Many are now regular users due to the first case being a dog owner asking to try it. They then see the results for themselves.
I can find out what vets in SA have ordered already.
Edit: sorry, I didn't see your post about your boy. Yes, his condition should respond well, in his case he would most likely be given the cells IV.
Many are now regular users due to the first case being a dog owner asking to try it. They then see the results for themselves.
I can find out what vets in SA have ordered already.
Edit: sorry, I didn't see your post about your boy. Yes, his condition should respond well, in his case he would most likely be given the cells IV.
So is there any difference in the results from cultured cells or those harvested from your dogs own fat?
