Rascalmyshadow Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Whoops. Edited July 24, 2014 by Rascalmyshadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 :) lucky girls you have . I do suggest though, that you get some support from a professional - and there are some good folks in melbourne & surrounds who are also D O L members . perhaps contact them - they will perhaps help Alison with her anxieties /worries :) CLICK HERE CLICK HERE CLICK HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesluvscavs Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Humping can be from excitement or dominance also.. my desexed dogs have on occasions to each other (I wouldn't personally call it out of control behaviour tho in our situation ). We had one desexed male cav and 2 female cavs (desexed) we lost our male one last year but recently were rehomed another male Cav (desexed). Our young female flirts with him a lot !;) We always feed them seperately as our oldest cav (12 years old) gets a bit grumpy these days and likes her space at meal times. (Don't blame her) The 12 year old keeps them all in place.. Shes always been the matriarch of this family :) Edited July 24, 2014 by Jules❤3Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizslaMomma Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Our male humps when he gets super excited, I wouldn't call it mating instincts and it's definitely not something that I would call a problem. If he just humps dogs maybe. The SIL's poodle humped EVERYTHING, and I mean everything. He mounted my best friend's leg. When she chastised that behaviour, the poodle lay on its back and fell in love with her. Dog wanted defined boundaries. Humping means defining behaviour, imo. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Allison Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thank you everyone for all the feed back. I appreciate all of it. My main concern is the difference in behaviour between male and female to my two females. Based on all your comments every dog is different. When my girls were small I also has a older male husky. He never came onto the girls and he never cocked his leg in the house. He absolutely loved the girls and cared for them like a mother. Sadly he died two days before Allison was attacked. It was a very sad time in our home. So I have had three dogs and had a permit as well as I spend all of my time with my dogs so having so many is not an issue for my husband and myself. As for trying to work with Allison iv done so much and nothing breaks my heart more then when she screams for myself or Charlotte. I know it makes me a bad dog owner but it makes me human to run to her. Charlotte and allison got to a bad start but they are now okay. YES they are both desexed. My main concern is wether they prefer male or female themselves. I think a male would be best based on all of your comments. I don't think my husband could live with 4 girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph M Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Even if neutered the male dog will still probably have strong mating instincts around the females, whether that worries you or not .. :) ???? That surely depends on the male but my two male greys who were neutered at 4 and 6 ish have never shown any such inclination. I'd go with a male personally. 2 girls are tough enough. This on all fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Allison Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 How do I post photos by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Even if neutered the male dog will still probably have strong mating instincts around the females, whether that worries you or not .. :) not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LisaCC Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) They are beautiful!! I agree with a boy might be best if you already have 2 girls. I personally prefer male dogs as I find they are big snuggle bugs Edited July 24, 2014 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thank you everyone for all the feed back. I appreciate all of it. My main concern is the difference in behaviour between male and female to my two females. Based on all your comments every dog is different. When my girls were small I also has a older male husky. He never came onto the girls and he never cocked his leg in the house. He absolutely loved the girls and cared for them like a mother. Sadly he died two days before Allison was attacked. It was a very sad time in our home. So I have had three dogs and had a permit as well as I spend all of my time with my dogs so having so many is not an issue for my husband and myself. As for trying to work with Allison iv done so much and nothing breaks my heart more then when she screams for myself or Charlotte. I know it makes me a bad dog owner but it makes me human to run to her. Charlotte and allison got to a bad start but they are now okay. YES they are both desexed. My main concern is wether they prefer male or female themselves. I think a male would be best based on all of your comments. I don't think my husband could live with 4 girls. I wonder whether losing your older boy just around the same time she was attacked made the impact of both that much more on little Allison? Not that there was anything that could be done to avoid that timing unfortunately Have you seen a good veterinary behaviourist for options to help her? There may not be much left to try but a vet behaviourist can sometimes recommend a combination of medication and a behaviour modification program that helps in severe separation anxiety cases. Regardless of that, I would think bringing in an easy going male could work quite well with your two girls. I personally think the individual dog is more important than gender but it can be hard to know exactly how they will fit in especially with a puppy so if you can take out one risk factor of females together then why not :) I had two desexed boys who had a very settled relationship between them and when looking for a third, who would be a larger breed, I went for a female as I thought there was a better chance of the boys accepting a larger female than larger male if it chose to assert itself over them. Of course that's exactly what happened, at 5 months old she decided she might like to be the "boss" and I think the boys definitely accepted it better than they would have from a male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazyWal Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Aaaaww look at them, gorgeous girls I have a male and a female greyhound and they adore each other...no humping to be seen. I've always had males until Maddie and never had a humper, I prefer males but many people have multiple girls without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Gorgeous! Regarding permits, a number of councils have dog specific permits - so also check that process. I know someone who had the permit, changed breeds and had to re-apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westiemum Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I have two boys and a girl - the middle girl and youngest boy are inseparable. Yet before I got the youngest boy the girl was very attached to my oldest boy. So it's not so much a choice between male and female IMO - that will always be a bit of a lottery as to who befriends who - it's about do you really want three dogs? My number three was the foster who never left - but I also underestimated what a big step up from two dogs, three dogs would be - my lap isn't big enough, walking three can be a challenge (although I've got it down to fine art now) and it's also more costly. I tend to agree with others - it might be better to try and solve Allison's problems first as there's no guarantee that adding a third dog will have the effect that you hope it will. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Allison Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thank you for your advice. I was just tLking to my husband about it and we will try to find something that with help with her anxiety first. It may be the smartest way to go at this point. She is only 2 and still quit inmature.. I'm hoping training will help. Has anyone has anxiety issues with their dogs and seen a change after therapy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I had a similar situation with my cats, I had a girl and two boys, the two boys adored each other but there was a 12 year age gap, my girl was in between. I lost my old boy mid last year and my younger boy became very timid and started to hide himself away. He also spent a lot of time wandering around looking for his old friend. After 8 months of trying different methods and using Feliway we decided to get another cat, a young confident male hoping it would help. It has made a huge difference, the boys bonded and we started to see glimpses of his old self. While he's not the same as he once was he has come a long way since the start of the year. I would go for a male that is calm and confident if you decide to add another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The Veterinary Specialist Centre in both Mt Waverley and in Essendon have two well known vets who specialise in animal behaviour. Dr. Kersti Seksel and Dr. Jacqui Ley. You could get a referral to see either of them from your local vet. They will be able to help your little Cav with her issues. I would certainly see a specialist vet before I would give the little girl any drugs for her anxiety even if your vet feels inclined to prescribe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thank you for your advice. I was just tLking to my husband about it and we will try to find something that with help with her anxiety first. It may be the smartest way to go at this point. She is only 2 and still quit inmature.. I'm hoping training will help. Has anyone has anxiety issues with their dogs and seen a change after therapy? I would be trying this before another dog she needs to be given a chance to live her life at such a young age & more importantly they will also help you deal with not enabling the behaviour more .It is often harder for the owners to give the right direction a traumatized needs to succeed in life ,your idea of training may have been right but your body laguage & reactions could have been very wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Allison Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 I will not be putting her on any sort of medication. I feel very strongly about it. Having another dog isn't doing any harm but at this point I'm going to look into doing therapy for her rather then getting another dog. I'll keep you updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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