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What My Vet Said About Fleas 2nd opinion pls

#31 User is offline   therese 

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Posted 04 April 2007 - 01:28 PM

We never had ticks for years but we did have trouble with fleas now we got rid of the fleas and we got ticks again. I guess it doesn't help that the cattle come right up to the fence now. :D
Seems like you can't win.

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 08:38 PM

Try buying a lotion which is a Sheep Mulesing Powder or Spray, dilute it as per package instructions, and spray spray spray!! Try Maleban, its a good brand. I put some in a pump pack and saturate the ground, bedding, kennel and wherever else the dogs lay. It's safe to spray onto the dogs too, but I dilute it further so as not to dry their coats out. It's the perfect thing to use, as its primary purpose is to stop flystrike and other bugs getting into sheep after they've been mulesed. I spray once a year and never see a flea or tick around the place. Its brilliant stuff.

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Posted 26 April 2007 - 05:34 PM

The frontline stopped working here too, and after reading this thread I tried Advantage, and it worked! :laugh: After all these months, and us being so damned desperate (and trying every damned product on the market for fleas) we finally found a product that works properly!
The reason I didnt try advantage earlier was because I thought it had the same chemicals as frontline, but when I found out they were different, I thought Id get a small pack and give it a go, I just hope it keeps working now :rofl: :)

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 01:25 AM

frontline doesnt work anymore, well at least not in sydney anymore... i gonna try advantage

been using capstars and fleabaths to try and keep control of em, but now the cat is infested and scratching himself raw too.... im pulling my own hair out trying to think of something

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 04:48 PM

View PostO-Ren, on 11th May 2007 - 01:25 AM, said:

frontline doesnt work anymore, well at least not in sydney anymore... i gonna try advantage


We've been using frontline for 6 years and its still working for us :o

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Posted 23 May 2007 - 03:05 PM

View Postruthless, on 23rd Feb 2007 - 08:28 AM, said:

Hi,

We found 2 fleas on Angel this morn. She's been scratching like crazy for the last week but we didn't know why till today. She's scratched herself raw in places. I rang the vets and they said to wash all the dogs tonight with their normal shampoo and treat with spray on frontline tomorrow or the next day and wash all their bedding and hoover the house. I told him she gets Sentinel at the start of every month and he said that's not enough as it only sterilizes the eggs. He said we should use that and topical Advantage. Either all year round, but especially in the hotter months.

We're in Sydney and they don't hang out with other dogs very often, so I don't know where they could've come from. What's everyone elses flea routine?

Thanks :)

Generally just wash the dogs in any proven soap or shampoo, sray areas where dogs sleep or lay about & same to the bedding. i apply 1ml of confidor (concentrate insecticide, from bunnings) between the shoulders, my dogs are Dobes. Also you must wait about 2 days after washing to apply the concentrate as this allows the dogs oils return to the coat & this is what makes the product work over the entire dog, regards Garry

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 11:05 AM

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If you wanted to kill the fleas ASAP, there's a tablet called Capstar made by same people as Sentinel Spectrum, which will kill all fleas on a dog in a 24 hour period. Most our clients by a 6 pack, and give their dogs a tablet every 2-3 days until finished. They're also helpful if you ever take dogs to dog parks - give dog tab before you get in the car for ride home, and won't be bringing fleas back with you. Usually helps eradicate most of the fleas present, but also a good topical product like Advantage will do the same.


can you please tell me where to get this capstar. i have had my BC for a year now, and i can't for the life of me get rid of her fleas. i was going to post a new comment, but i will just add to this, as i also had another question. we just moved house, to a house with a pool and virtually no dirt, it is all grass and pebbles. i washed her the other day in her usual oatmeal shampoo, but for some reason this time after she dried off, the next day i noticed dandruf. her skin was flaking mainly around her back/bum area, but still it is all over. can i get a suggestion on a good shampoo and conditioner for her? and it seems that advantage is the way to go with fleas, i really would like to get rid of these pesky little buggers, i will try advantage. just to let you know, i have bathed her previously in malwash, it worked for a day but then straight back on her, also i have a diluted solution of permetheran, which i use, but again doesn't seem to work, she seems to be a flea breeding cycle :D

thanks for all this quality advice.

Bret


Advantage kills fleas, flea eggs, flea larvae, and forms crystals which will fall off in the dogs environment and kill the fleas in the surrounds also.

But to be effective you have to treat every pet in the household, and also won't be as effective if you have roaming cats coming into your yard.

Hope this helps!

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This post has been edited by bret: 29 May 2007 - 11:07 AM


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Posted 06 June 2007 - 08:21 AM

View Postbret, on 29th May 2007 - 11:05 AM, said:

can you please tell me where to get this capstar. i have had my BC for a year now, and i can't for the life of me get rid of her fleas. i was going to post a new comment, but i will just add to this, as i also had another question. we just moved house, to a house with a pool and virtually no dirt, it is all grass and pebbles. i washed her the other day in her usual oatmeal shampoo, but for some reason this time after she dried off, the next day i noticed dandruf. her skin was flaking mainly around her back/bum area, but still it is all over. can i get a suggestion on a good shampoo and conditioner for her? and it seems that advantage is the way to go with fleas, i really would like to get rid of these pesky little buggers, i will try advantage. just to let you know, i have bathed her previously in malwash, it worked for a day but then straight back on her, also i have a diluted solution of permetheran, which i use, but again doesn't seem to work, she seems to be a flea breeding cycle :)

thanks for all this quality advice.

Bret


Bret, during this very dry period we lost all our grass and only have dirt for a backyard and runs (growing now a bit with the use of our grey water), so we brought home fleas from somewhere. One of my dogs is just so allergic.

Washed them in Nucidol, then sprayed the whole yard, runs etc with "Grubkill" from the local produce store. Did it twice, a week apart, no problem but still give a final rinse with Nucidol before a show so they bring nothing home. I also have a spray bottle with some diluted Nucidol for those occasions when someone might have a bit of an itch.

I keep Capstar just in case and can buy it from IGA, Woolies etc.

I find that conditioner on dogs only seems to increase the dandruff, try putting a little Glycerine in the rinse for a shine, just a little, a few drops only.

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Posted 14 June 2007 - 08:00 PM

I have found that frontline does not work anymore. :) Tried flea spray, but with little success. Have even resorted to using a flea collar.
Will buy some Advantage and see if it helps.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 03:36 PM

fleas are little sh*ts... they breed like crazy and lay their eggs everywhere and the eggs are activated by humditiy and vibrations. So with all this crazy weather we have been having this year, we have seen more fleas. Secondly if you have any wooden floors in your house, it send massive vibrations between the floor boards where the eggs are and "wakes" them up. Thirdly if there are any cats around, you will most probably get fleas. The majoirty of fleas on dogs are actually cat fleas ,yes thats right there are 2 species of fleas and cat fleas love to get on dogs. Next if you have sandy soils around/under your house, its a breeding haven for fleas. Ok i think i have talked about where fleas come from now onto products

the shampoos are good for some instant relief but its good to use a shampoo that has oatmeal and aloe vera in teh skin to soothe it.. staffy's are known to have bad skin in general and usually require a little more care. The thing people often forget is that when you wash a dog you wash all that essentail oil - sebum- out of the skin and this is needed to protect the skin from the fleas and bacteria etc. It is also needed to carry the advantix or frontline around the body, so if you do wash your dog remember to wait 24-48hours BEFORE and AFTER to put the treatment on. And also if you put it straight on after a wash you can cause skin irritation cos the product just sits there and doesn't move. The capstar is a great tablet what it does is it kills all the adult fleas that are BITING - so it just gives the dog (and you) some relief from all the itching. the tablet is absorbed into the blood and the next time the flea bites and sucks up some blood it also gets the tablets which kills it. So it doesn't kill the larvae or immature fleas. so you need to use it inconjunction with the advantix etc. The advantix and frontline are all good products but the fleas get used to the one chemical and actually become immune to them, so its good to change over brands (which use different) chemicals to keep those fleas on their toes.

now the bad part. at any 1 time, there is only 1% of the flea population on your dog... that means 99% are in your house!! so its not good enough to only look at the dog, you need to treat the house garden etc.

ok i think i have babbled enough... i hope this helps...can any tell im a vet student! :laugh:

oh and flea collars dont really work - the little monsters just learn to stay away from the neck area.. hence why u see them all arund the bum and inbetween the legs (plus its much warmer there!!)

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 07:54 PM

Ive also found Frontline to be a waste of money. Capstar got rid of them and had no problems since.

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 08:12 PM

Animalsluvbree - I think that has to be the best post I have ever read couldn't say it better myself!! :thumbsup:

Fontline DOES work it's just you have a bigger flea problem than you think.

ALL fleas which jump on your dog will die,but the dog is constantly being re-infested.

You need to spray your entire house ALL rooms,anywhere the dog goes even the garage,block off any access under the house.

To have total coverage use FRONTLINE in conjuction with PERMOXIN and always wash your dog in a soap free,ph balanced shampoo and conditioner eg Aloveen or Natural by dermcare.

eta- you also need to treat EVERY animal in your house including the cat or rabbit at the same time!!

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:42 PM

I think my poor puppy caught fleas from one of the other dogs at puppy school over the weekend. I've put Revolution on her this morning and am planning to wash all her bedding tomorrow. Should I also buy some Capstar? Is it okay to use if I've already put Revolution on her?
What's can I do to stop her from getting MORE fleas from puppy school in coming weekends?

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:59 PM

View Postjillybean, on 29th Oct 2007 - 08:42 PM, said:

I think my poor puppy caught fleas from one of the other dogs at puppy school over the weekend. I've put Revolution on her this morning and am planning to wash all her bedding tomorrow. Should I also buy some Capstar? Is it okay to use if I've already put Revolution on her?
What's can I do to stop her from getting MORE fleas from puppy school in coming weekends?


JMO but I would use "frontline" and then spray with "permoxin" before going to class, as the permoxin will repel the fleas,this combination is safe.

I don't like giving my dogs tablets due to the effect they can have on the liver long term,with the "frontline" and "permoxin" it adhears to the fur so does not enter the bloodstream at all.

The other problem with tablets is the fleas have to bite the dog to die,where as the spray or top spot the flea dies by simply jumping on.

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 06:49 PM

I have an old home remedy book that say's 1 tablespoon of APPLE CIDAR VINIGAR in the meal once a day is supposed to repel flea's, mite, tick's and any other crawly's. I tried it on my dog but he refused to eat. But some of my customer's said it really does work. I personally use ADVANTIX as we live near the beach with mangroves so we have lot's of mosquito's and sandflies, but advantix stop's all them also aswell as flea's. :thumbsup:

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