Katdogs

Sounds like momentum is building for a challenge; the ban may yet be overturned. I can't accept that a whole industry is shut down simply because Baird says so

It's not surprising really - similar philosophy to westconnex, our councils, now TAFE...

Wow that 1978 Crufts video!

One of the first signs that something was really amiss was the shock resignation of Greyhound Racing NSW's (GRNSW) integrity auditor in July 2012.

David Landa, a former chief magistrate and NSW Ombudsman, quit his position issuing an ominous warning: that legislative failings made independent oversight of the code impossible.

My exclusive interview with Mr Landa revealed that the industry been left without proper checks and balances and he warned "nowhere in the world would such an industry be allowed to self-regulate in this way".

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/greyhound-racing-ban-how-a-single-call-triggered-the-sunherald-investigation-20160709-gq22k4.html#ixzz4Dz2MDukV

Yeah. If David Landa couldn't fix it, maybe the 'winding up' should have started then?

My family loved and raced greyhounds for years, many years ago, when you could have a couple of dogs and race them for fun/competition. You didn't really go into it for money, back then. Sad to see it so corrupted.

It was equally corrupted way back when Katdogs. As now there were for sure many good people involved. But outweighed by the bad stuff going on with far less publicity. But "the dogs in the street" talked about the rotten-ness in horse and dog racing. Frank Hardy wrote quite a bit on it, (he is also the author of Power Without Glory). His book "The Four Legged Lottery" was published in the late 50s, and another on horse racing "The Needy and the Greedy" in the 60s. How gambling wrecked families and how corruption was part of the industry. Probably less recognition of the animals as victims - harsher times in many ways. Rose coloured glasses not.

You're right PC, I suspect I've been looking through the rose coloured glasses. The rabbits being trapped and ferreted for food and fur probably also got used for the hounds. I'm also sure that when any gambling is involved, corruption happens. I'm thinking though that there were more 'just one or two' dog owners who also did training and very selective breeding, rather than the wholesale breeding/kenneling?

Interesting to see now the calls for Wentworth Park to become a new style super-pound to replace SDCH etc. I can't see that ever happening in that place, but it's getting mainstream news attention.

Evidently it's just more acceptable to continue to breed large amounts of dogs and kill large amounts of dogs because heaven forbid the dog world drag itself into the 21st century and get in line with community expectations. Yes there was an opportunity to improve things, but that time has passed, expecting to be able to change things at a leisurely pace so that no ones feelings get hurt is unrealistic. The clock is ticking for every other animal pursuit. Dick around and make excuses as much as you like, doesn't change the reality.

http://www.greyhoundracinginquiry.justice.nsw.gov.au/

I only got as far as the first page - wastage - more than 50,000 'missing' dogs.

My family loved and raced greyhounds for years, many years ago, when you could have a couple of dogs and race them for fun/competition. You didn't really go into it for money, back then. Sad to see it so corrupted.

Anne I cannot imagine having no animals at all. The house will echo.

So sorry Anne. End of an era indeed.

Olivia was so lucky to find you.

Poor Maggie paralysed at 11 weeks old.

Tele story from last week

TWO months since farwelling their beloved family dog Scout, Lisa Wilkinson has had a scare with their new boxer puppy Maggie.

On Sunday, Wilkinson, 56, posted an image on Instagram telling how the 11-week-old pup became infected with a deadly parasite and has been left paralysed.

“A lot of you have been asking since we lost our beautiful Scout a few months ago, how our new #boxerpuppy Maggie is going,” Wilkinson wrote.

“Sadly, not well.

“Four weeks ago, it seems, she ate a slug in our garden that infected her with lung worm ... a disease I’d never heard of, but one that strikes animals quickly and left her paralysed — most particularly in her back legs.

“It has been touch and go for Maggie ever since, but a week ago we brought her home from the vet — at our request when the best advice was that we should probably prepare ourselves for the worst — hoping that enough physio, love, medicine, cuddles and around-the-clock care from us would bring our mischievous little girl back to us.

“Well, on Friday she started dragging herself around on the grass and we saw the merest hint of movement in one of her back legs. And today she actually started wagging her tail! I swear you could have heard our screams of delight from three suburbs away.

“She’s far from out of the woods yet, but what’s clear to us — and our cocker spaniel whose ear she is constantly trying to bite and is eyeing off in this photo — is that our Maggie is a fighter.

And we all have our fingers crossed!

She finished her post by offering some advice to fellow pet owners.

“PS. So if you have pets AND slugs in your garden, one word — salt!”

Latest post on FB:

Hey everyone...

I can't thank you enough for all your beautiful messages about Maggie.

The great news is, the vet is amazed at her progress, and feels really confident that she is going to make it. There's still a very long road ahead but her fighting spirit is strong...as you'll see in this video.

Her biggest aim right now is to get her baby puppy teeth into the ears of her big brother cocker spaniel, Bourke. She is trying SOOO hard and hasn't got there yet - and Bourke is wise to her - but hey, it's a goal! And we've all got to have them...

GO MAGGIE!!

Lisa.xx

Accompanied by a video of a paralysed puppy doing her best.

Previous DOL topic when I knew nothing about it:

Pick up your bowls and watch out for slugs and snails.

What a huge jump!

And so cute, the dog and his duck.

Oh huga I'm so sorry. It's Panto's anniversary today, two beautiful souls whocan share a date and play together over the rainbow bridge �

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Two wonderful dogs. The harder you hurt shows just how loved and loving they were.

I just can't. Not after knowing she 'retired' to weekly reading classes with a local school.

Sickening.

Why does the name Kate Hallam in the OP ring a bell? Was she ever a DOLer?

Bubby is 11? How did that happen so fast!

My city area is right into oodles and frenchies at the moment. Not sure where all the large brindle pound looking crosses dogs have gone from a few years ago.

Past fads have all had their turn for example cavaliers, blue anything, rottie, pomeranian. You see the numbers go up and down.

Frenchy and brachy are up next.

Young Kelpies everywhere I'm looking PL - Henson Park and Sydney Park. I blame Richard Glover :)

http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/pets/pet-road-tests/dog-dumpage/#.VzUcsI9OJhF

I provided this link before, but I just noticed something interesting: have a look at 'The 10 breeds most dumped due to aggression are' figures: if you would let people with less background knowledge guess the first ranks, it is likely that they would mention pit bull breeds first...but the stats show it is just not true!

Eta: also interesting: Maremmas don't bark, are not aggressive, but are on rank 4 of the most dumped dogs!

I didn't click but is that a Burke link?

Sorry T. You love them so hard.

The currawongs I know have all lived in big groups - soooo much singing together.

Having spent a lot of time at dog parks I have several times headed off or interrupted before noise and snapping escalated fights by grabbing both collar and a handful of scruff (skin) and twisting HARD and lifting.

I've actuallly held my Aussie Shepherd and a German Shepherd apart one in each hand until someone else grabbed the GSD doing this (breeds only mentioned for size reference!). This was a "we don't know each other and are trying to establish our relationship" fight though, not a trying to kill each other fight, so I'm not saying that would always be possible! Some guy that was there commented that I was brave (with the implication of also stupid) but it was a case of if this keeps escalating my dog is smaller an less strong so she won't come out best and I have to do something.

The three times my dogs have been attacked, as in targeted by a dog that meant business (not gotten in a two way scuffle) it ended because:

1st time - my Sheltie grabbed by a much larger dog. Other dog owner went to pull her dog away, he still had a grip on Riley so I said don't pull, I held Riley up towards the dog's mouth so he wasn't hanging and we all stood still until the other dog let go to adjust his bite and we pulled them apart.

2nd time - off lead dog on the street approached my Aussie Shepherd on lead, they sniffed, then the other dog launched for Quinn's neck. Quinn fought back briefly but realised she was beaten and tried to get away, I managed to fall over sort of right next to Quinn on the ground and somehow ended up with a grip of the other dog's scruff and my thumb in its mouth in that gap where they have little teeth behind the canines and again, the dogs and I all sort of stayed still for a moment, with it having a grip on Quinn but not a full one coz my thumb was in the way...and then just because of adrenaline and frustration I roared at it to "f***ng let go" and pushed my thumb hard at the roof of its mouth, and it did enough for its two owners to pull it away.

3rd time - the other week, walking my three, loose dog comes barreling out an open gate straight at us, I saw it and started roaring and it to get away. It aimed for the smallest dog, poodle x, and grabbed a him several times, then had a few grabs at the Sheltie but I think because there were the three dogs plus me and the Aussie Shepherd yelling and charging at it and me kicking it wherever I could get to, it couldn't get a good grip. With this one I got hold of it's collar and scruff and twisted and lifted, and that actually stopped it, then I held it with one hand while I got one of my leashes off my dog and got it in a slip around the attacking dogs neck and held it up, choking it (then the owner finally came out and got it an abused me *eye roll*).

I'm SURE with this one if the dog had been able to get a good grip on the neck of one of my little dogs my dog would be seriously injured or dead. It did try the neck snapping "death" shake thing but thankfully didn't have a good enough grip in the confusion. And if I had had to choke the dog to death to stop it I would have, not that I wanted to but when you are scared for your dog's life you don't really give a crap about the other dog.

So my tips are

1. Keep an eye out always so you can hopefully see trouble coming and get on the front foot with going towards the dog, charging, stomping and roaring (I know that sounds dumb bit it really is roaring, not yelling, as deep as you can, growly so your throat hurts afterwards, and LOUD)

2. Always always wear good enclosed stable shoes or boots when you take dogs out so you can run and/or KICK if you need to (I HATE seeing people out with their dogs in thongs)

3. Go for the collar AND scruff and twist hard, and lift and hold

4. Get a slip lead around the neck if you can and pull up hard

I think one of the important parts is how the humans react, you have to stay calm and not scream or cry or panic (I know easier said than done). I think you being calm and taking action keeps your dog/s a bit less panicky and incites the attacking dog less, and (again sounds dumb) I like to think if what is going through your head is "this is not happening, I am stopping this" you project it a bit to the dogs maybe.

Great post.

Unfortunately she took a turn this afternoon and she is now running free at the Bridge. We are devastated.

Oh no, I'm so sorry.

Well done on giving her a brilliant last few days. She got nicely spoiled. What a lucky dog to have you looking out for her.

Worst damage I've seen done to another dog was not by a bull breed.

Worst damage that's been done to me was by a SWF.

Let's not get breedist please.

I've seen a small entire older SBT-type take on a young Boxer in the muzzle/neck with four people trying to get them apart. They tried water in the face (from a bottle though, we were in a park), wheelbarrowing (the little dog held on so hard they were just about lifting the big dog by the face, and nobody wanted to pull in case it did more damage), the 'finger up the bum'. Nobody could get in close to the mouths and necks to cut off air supply and the little dog wasn't wearing a collar. The only thing that seemed to work eventually was whacking the little one hard around the chest/abdomen by one person while it was held up in the air by the hind legs by another person. Longest couple of minutes at a park I've ever had - and I was on the other side of an oval holding back mine because they wanted to see what the fuss was about.

Boxer had some very nasty puncture wounds.

Just a dog park point of view, but today I met a couple of pugs. Both 5yo. One is going in for surgery in a couple of weeks to have its nostrils 'carved' and palate 'cut shorter'. The noise from this dog was awful - puffing and wheezing, you'd think it was an 80yo human emphysemic patient.

The other one was the healthy one - it doesn't need surgery, according to the vets and SASH. But it sounded horrible too with its panting. The owners stopped him running in case he got too hot - but it was a cool day!

I asked. Both are pedigreed as in they came from a registered ANKC breeder as pets, but from show parents.

Looking at all those gorgeous faces and the videos - how do you choose a keeper?

Yeah, there's a little thread in General too.

What an amazing story. Lucky old girl had a job to do for someone who appreciated it - all a Kelpie could ask.