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  1. Lulusuki if Jesse were mine I would email Steve at K9Pro or one of the very good trainers on here and see if they know anyone over there that they could direct you to. I'm sure you'd both be happier and have more fun if you had the right help. Pointless for anyone here to offer suggestions beyond the basic as we can't see what is happening. Nipping at the ladies heels is not on but could be related to his breed (they are herding dogs) not just his temperament. I'm sure he's a sweet boy he just needs some help. :)

  2. In my experience training does help to a degree. Building up their confidence and management but it is a temperament issue. It is unfortunate but sometimes it will crop up even when the parents themselves are fine. Personally I would crate train him and crate him rather than leash him when you have company. He will begin to put himself away when he feels stressed, and being able to contain him safely will make you feel better.

    I would love to see a photo. There is a collie thread in the breeds sub forum at the top of this forum too.

    These are my girls.

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  3. I have two. They aren't meant to be shy or nervous but some are. I've been lucky in that over the last 30 years I have never had one with either problem but they are out there. Having said that it doesn't stop them being lovely pets or from getting sporting titles. :) Mine will tell off anyone who comes to the door but once I let someone in and they have inspected them they are fine...well apart from being a bit over zealous in their inspections. :laugh:

  4. I use both. Always chiro before the bowen. For my bitch who admittedly has issues doing both together clearly helps more than doing one or the other on their own. If I can get them both done with in 24 hours of each other as that seems to give her the most benefit out of both. I very much doubt a normal healthy dog would need both done however, though my young girl will often get a treatment as well simply because we are there and the cost for two is only a little more than for one.

  5. Please don't throw it out! Many states do keep their old pedigrees (especially that old) and many have been lost forever as the old ones are not on the ANKC data base. If your state body doesn't want it and your breed club don't the Vic dog library will happily add it to our collection which I will admit is huge. Given it is just the one room would be found! :)

  6. I'd go with the cool champions too. Mine is a good 5 years old and still going and gets used a lot, my big girl wears her's all summer. I've done whole trials in them and with the Velcro strapping being elastic there is plenty of give in them. The Collies love them. They aren't cheap but they certainly do the job and they last, the only downside is they flatten the coat but given your girls are labs that's not really an issue for you! :)

  7. Mum do you have a date of birth or remember either of the parents names? You can track down details via gazettes if you must but you need a dob at least. Then you could confirm the prefix, once you are sure about that it would be a matter of contacting either Dogs NSW or the Boxer club of NSW.

    Do you remember the prefix of the other dog?

  8. Paddles, if I may? I noticed this because it is the familiar cry of every judge who I go under.....walk faster. :laugh: You have big dogs walk like you're on a mission. Then they wonder what the hell you're up to and pay attention. Also, when they sniff call their names and when they look up reward, but down the drain not out to the side. :)

    Hope that was okay, they do look like big happy chappies. No recent videos here there's no one to film them! :)

  9. Chloe poodles (keeping in mind I don't have poodles and the only ones I know are those I run across doing obedience) are more extroverted, they are bouncy happy, enthusiastic sort of dogs, when happy they will dance on their tippy toes. While collies can be all those things it is in a quieter more dignified way. Collies won't throw themselves at you joyously happy because you're a person the first time they meet you, they will stand back and think about it first. They are reserved, and generally placid and calm. They enjoy a run and a play but not roughly or for a long duration. Once they know someone and like them they will be happy to see them but they won't be leaping and tearing about being more inclined to jump up (if they are allowed too!)and cuddle and wag their tails. They aren't needy like some gundogs are but they like to keep an eye on things. A poodle person will come in and explain a bit more about poodles I'm sure.

    The different breeds have very different temperaments and then the individuals in those breeds are of course a little different in themselves. You need to meet the dogs and decide what you like because you have to live with them.

    As for barking herding breeds can be barkers, yes you just accept that and train them to be quiet as much as is possible. Coated breeds need grooming and again if you have one then that's just part and parcel of it. I don't think it's a matter of good or bad just everyone has things they can and can't live with. :)

  10. BR TSD means the gun dog group which is group 3. http://www.ankc.org.au/Breeds.aspx?gid=3 Some sports like retrieving and herding are restricted to breeds of dogs who were bred to perform the role. So for retrieving that is the group 3 breeds. :) All breeds of dogs in Australia (well world wide but lets not complicate things!) are divided into groups. The groups each have both a number and a name so Group 1 (Toys) is all the toy breeds so you have the little dogs together, pugs, poms, maltese and the like, then Group 2 (Terriers) so in that group you get Jack Russells, Bull Terriers, Staffords etc. Does that make sense?

    BR as you're in Geelong I would contact Nekhbet (that's her DOL name) she's out that way and is brilliant. :thumbsup:

    Daisy Tea you can always go to a trial and watch first but don't worry no one ever laughs at anyone but themselves. Even the most experienced people have brain fades and do silly things. Heaven knows if I ever get through a trial without buggering anything up I'll need to be resuscitated! :laugh:

    I have no idea about FOOs in NSW ask your club if there's anywhere you can do run throughs. FOOs (which is for friends of obedience) is a fund raiser that OTEC (Obedience, tracking, and endurance committee) runs to buy equipment and what not for trials up at KCC as not all clubs have there own. Well that's my understanding anyway. :)

  11. BR if you live on the KCC Park (which is in Skye) side of the city Dogs Vic has a dog library too, which is a big help. I usually train up there once or twice a week and I'm always happy to help people. Granted that I'm not the most experience handler but still. :laugh:

    The other thought is tracking which is good fun too but the kids might find they need to find another taxi when you get to trialling stage..... :rofl:

  12. Some of the obedience judges are now putting their baby dogs (by which I mean 2 and under) through rally first, but and it is a big but these are experienced handlers. It is better to make haste slowly. There's plenty of time and in all honesty it is better to let them grow a brain first. Remember you can be trialling a dog for 8 years or more so why hurry? I see people do this, they put a lot of pressure on themselves and their dogs and in the process the stop having fun.

    When you get to the maybe we're ready stage, well we have FOOs in Victoria at KCC twice a year, 4 sessions each in Autumn and Spring. These are not for competition run throughs under experienced judges for I think $5 a go. They are a tremendous help and good fun. The judges want people to succeed and they will help and encourage you and give you plenty of advice. FOOs always need helpers too and you learn lots. :)

    Trials in Victoria are listed here. Click on the underlined entries and you will open a flyer.

    http://www.vicdog.com/

    TSD is right though, someone once said to me if you don't retrain your first dog at least a few times you're doing something wrong! :rofl:

    Seriously though if you want something small to start with google "hind end awareness" because that is good fun great for babies and very helpful for rally, obedience, dancing and so forth.

  13. The how long does it take to train question is a bit like the how long is a piece of string question. The answer is it depends, it depends on you and how seriously you take it, if you want to be competitive (as in do you care if you win the ring or not? Or are you just happy with passes towards titles), your dog and the sort of support you have with training. Myself I train in short bursts, say 15 minutes all up a day in 5 minute blocks but I do it every day with the occasional couple of days or week break if the need arises. My young girl is two years old and has been trained like this since she was 9 weeks old. She started trialling in earnest this year and gained two titles in a matter of weeks.

    I do obedience and rally. I had to begin with just done a rally trial as it was there, my young girl has been trained with the higher levels of obedience as an end goal and when she hit the rings this year the first suitable trial was a rally trial. So I took myself off and learnt the signs and toddled off and gained two 90 plus passes. It was great fun! So we've kept going with it and the obedience. Rally novice is I think a really nice entry point for first time handlers and dogs as it's not as serious as obedience tends to be. I enjoy obedience, I like the precision of it and the discipline and it is also a stepping stone for all sorts of other fun things you can do. I think Huski's suggestion to go to trials and watch or steward is a good one but there is no reason why you can't have a go if you are willing to put the work in and it is fun. The best bit is when everything just goes well and you feel like you and your dog are going along doing the exercises or stations as if you were both of one mind, that is just lovely. Ribbons and titles while very nice are secondary. :)

    Hope that sort of helps answer your questions in amongst the waffle!

  14. Chloe what part of Melbourne are you in? I'm more than happy to meet you up at KCC for collie cuddles. Collies are very trainable and where for a long time a force in obedience rings, they are lovely dogs but not for everyone. Standard poodles are lovely too but the two breeds have completely different temperaments and most people prefer one or the other. What matters most is what breed fits you, your family and your little cav best. :)

  15. I have Collies, I have had them for nearly 30 years. Some are barky some not but it can be managed they are smart little sods though so sometimes you have to think outside the box to do so. I have had collies that range from totally in love with the sound of their own voice to two that were almost mute, the latter two were just very quiet gentle dogs. Most will however bark in the watch dog sense. I think too with some training the amount of exercise you mention would be more than enough for a collie rough or smooth especially with a bit of training. They are intelligent dogs and like to have a job to do.

  16. Chris pedigree puppies cost that much because you are paying for a) all the health testing involved (none of which is cheap a $1000 for each parent is not uncommon) b) for all the time and planning that went into the puppy (breeders will research pedigrees for health and quality and breed type as well as temperament and other things and that often takes a lot of time and effort often years of time and effort!) c) the breeders care and expertise and then the papers.

    Very often the price asked for puppies doesn't cover the breeders expenses especially when they use a stud dog interstate or if the bitch needs a c section. That is why they get most upset when people say they are greedy or money hungry. :) Enjoy your little chap he is a cutie no matter what he is.

  17. Purpley you'll be fine aim to get there with time to spare before check in shuts (if you are entered for all three trials you only have to go to the first check in not all three), so you can collect your number. You have some lovely judges for novice so go along and enjoy yourself. Remember when you walk through the course before the trial starts that you can ask the judges to clarify if you aren't sure about a sign that's what they are there for. Good luck and have a good day. :)

  18. Oh Ness, I feel for you. I have kept tabs on poor Kenzie's on going saga but I don't say much. It is so much like the the road we have travelled with Koori. Koori like Kenzie was meant to be my UD dog. You will have a UD dog just not this one but Kenzie will always be special and her legacy and everything she has taught you with her training and health will always be with you. I wish I could find something comforting to say, but I know from experience that it just bloody sucks and there's nothing anyone can say that makes you feel any better. Go give your sweet, special girl a hug and take pleasure in the brilliant little personality she is. And hold on tight to your dreams... one day they will come. :hug:

  19. Blackdogs one of my roughs is smooth bred (she's the one who is trialling on Saturday). She is a darling but quite naked. :laugh: Some of the older bloodlines carry less coat. They are less drivey than some of the other herding breeds but that has it's up side and down side. I personally would find a border collie or an Aussie just too much lovely as they are. I have had alot of people tell me that Collies can't work but most of them never get the chance to show what they can do. I have had Collies for around 30 years and they certainly aren't for everyone. Having said that and love them to bits, they are easy to live with but they can be a bit barky and my current two do like to have a chat. You are more than welcome to come and meet my girl and have a chat if you're down this way on Saturday.

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