Rebanne

Had two dogs done with it before boarding them, no apparent problems.

I personally don't use either product. I don't like using stuff that does everything in one hit. I prefer to spread my chemical usage, if needed, over time. I use a basic monthly heartworm, appropriate worming, and flea treatment as needed, which is not often at my place. Don't know why I don't have a flea problem but I don't

Have you tried digetive enzymes? Not sure if they would help or not.

Rewards are part and parcel of postive training. You can not train positively without giving the dog some sort of reward. You can however train negatively and give food as a treat. Plenty of the jerk and pull brigade think they are training positively because they also give out a bit of food occassionly. Postive training is way much more than offering a food reward, it's a lifestyle! And yes, our dogs are our guinea pigs. We improve with each and every one of them.

I must be a dummy because I thought food rewards was positive training along with any thing else the dog values. If the dog is still reliant on food way off into the future than the food has not been used correctly. Same if it only performed if you had a toy in your hand, or continually told it what a good dog it was. You have to educate your dog to keep doing what you want it to do and if it does this, sometimes it will get a reward, sometimes it won't but the dog keeps working because it wants that reward, and sometimes you pay out! The dog never knows when you'll pay it so it keeps working.

My greyhound lasted 3 weeks after being diagnosed with bone cancer. Sam was 8 and had a strong family history of it. I opted not to treat it except for painkillers. When the painkillers failed I had Sam put down. If it ever happens again I will have the dog put down straight away. When the pain killers failed, they failed in a big way. Just stopped working. I would never ever again put a dog through that. Many, many greyhounds have had this awful disease and a lot have survived for 12 months or more with good quality of life. Some dogs have chemo, some have amputation, some have both. And some, like my Sam, have none. It is a personal desicion and not an easy one. You can only do what you think is right for both of you. I wish your friend the best of luck, it will not be an easy time for him

not on the prey diet they're not :rolleyes: Reasoning being if you feed grass fed animals to your dog, they get what they need from the meat of said prey. You are right though in this, my mistake; in the original book it is stated 2 or 3 vegie meal, in a 2-3 week span, 1 or 2 milk meal, grain meal in same time frame. Big difference from nowadays.

You don't have to feed vegies. I don't, I just feed raw meaty bones, liver, hearts, tinned mackeral eggs etc. Only vegies, rice or pasta my dogs get nowadays are left overs from our plates. If you read the original book by Billinghurst, vegies were not fed every day. This is something that seems to have crept into the barf diet.

But my dogs are fully immunised. My vet agrees. They just don't get yearly boosters nor do they get kennel cough. Kennel cough doesn't cover all the varieties that are out there, only a couple of strains, as far as I'm concerned it just like a flu shot. And some times vaccines fail. No one can guarentee their dog is 100% fully vaccinated against disease. Tatum is in a different boat all together because of her vaccine reaction but as she is not trialling etc I don't have to worry about it.

And what gives you the right to judge other people? How would you like it if I came on here and said you are the one who is being irresponsible and you are poisoning your dog with all those mutliple vaccines and no doubt multiple chemical treatments. I seen dogs die from parvo but I do not believe yearly vaccines are needed. Neither does my vet. And a vet who most strongly believes in yearly vaccinations told me they had a lot of cats lately who have reacted badly to the vaccine. My daughter had her course of vaccinations as needed, she don't have have it repeated every damn year nor do my pets. Where do you get off being so self righteous you self opinionated *$@

I only vaccinate my dogs every 3 years or so. I do not believe they need yearly vaccinations. I never do kennel cough except this year when they had to go into kennels. Then they had their C3 one month and the kennel cough a month later. Tatum had a severe reaction after her second C3, impossible to tell if it was straight vaccinoses (sp?) but she has since had a killed parvo vaccine ok and that's all she is having from now on. I'm not risking her again. BTW Tatum did not go into kennels, she stayed with a friend. Not that the kennel would take her anyway.

I have used very good quality lavendar oil on hot spots and similar with very good results. It does not sting as I use it on any cuts or scapes I get. I have been bitten several times by feral cats and have never had any infections, due, I feel to the oil. My GSD's hot spots always cleared up quickly.

I wasn't actually refering to you but the stupid vet! I agree 100% with what you said, bigger pieces are better. I don't know why you thought I was refering to your reply but I wasn't

Raw. Dogs in the wild don't cook their meat, they eat it as they find/catch it. Their insides are designed to cope with raw meat, humans aren't. Comparing dogs to humans is just plain stupid. Two different species.

He is telling you what he needs, very meaty raw bones. Actually lamb flaps are very fattening, try him with those. While I think a raw based diet is balanced you may not agree with me but I would worry about balance after he has a bit more weight on him. :rolleyes:

I feed a more prey based type of Barf. My dogs, 3 of various sizes, get raw lamb flaps and chicken carccass's as their main diet. A couple of times a week they get mackeral and eggs and that's about it. Often I buy beef heart, chicken livers, chicken necks, beef mince to vary their diet. I'm not up to handling tongue or green tripe but all other types of raw meat/meaty bones I will feed. Only vegies, grains they get are from any leftovers from our plates. It's very simple and all I have to do is freeze it in the right amounts for daily feeding and remember to thaw it out. Very little mess. I feel this is closer to a true Barf diet than just mince and vegies and grains. Dogs(wolves) have never eaten a lot of vegies and grains, though that can be hard to believe from all the books etc that are around. Do a google search and read as much as you can and decide what's best for your dogs.

My 6 month old GSD suffered from vaccinosis after her second puppy shot of C3. She has since had a killed parvo vaccination which she handled fine but there will be very few, if any vaccinations for the rest of her life. For the last 6 or 7 years I have been aware of problems with over vaccinating. When I mentioned my pup's problem to another vet (in conversation, she is firmly in the belief I am killing my dogs by not vaccianting them with everything every 12 months LOL) she mentioned they recently had a lot of cats reacting badly. I have a nearly 8 yo beagle X who was vaccinated with C3 in October and the nasal kennel cough spray in November as she was going to be boarded while we were on holidays. Emma has never had a kennel cough vaccine and the C3 was her first in 3 years. She didn't end up going to the kennels because she got very ill. Emma stayed at my Mum's instead but 10 days later is still not right. I am starting to suspect some problem with her liver and I suspect the vaccines have not helped! The only vaccine I will use from now on is the killed parvo, nothing else - and no more holidays if it means putting my dogs in kennels.

another pic of my beautiful boy

Today, 31/08/04 should have been Sam's 9th birthday. I am still struggling to come to terms with his loss. Last night, after work, I took Sam's ashes out to our local greyhound track and scattered them around the finishing line. There were a lot of ashes so I spread some past the finishing line too, as in first past the post. And it was more like poured than spread. Cremation ashes aren't like the ashes from a wood fire, light and fluffy. When I turned back I saw that the dark ashes stood out plainly against the light sand of the track. In the middle of my sobs I also had to giggle. I hope the track people don't think a terrorist has been and laid down "suspicious powder" I had seen the track secretary the day before and told him what I was going to do but not when I was doing it. So Sam's bodily remains have now been set free but it was one of the hardest things I have ever done.

I taught 2 greyhounds to bow just by clicking every time they stretched.They both picked it up real quick. The older grey Sam used it as his default behaviour