~Anne~

On 19/2/2024 at 6:34 AM, Boronia said:

Thank you for your polite and kindly-meant reply @coneye it certainly shows what I know...not much apparently.

Oh by the way, one thing that I do know is that the apostrophe goes between the n and the t as it replaces the letter 'o' in the word not.

Poor form. 

3 minutes ago, Boronia said:

Courts don't add more on if a person is a bit of a tool Coneye, imagine the amount of appeals that would ensure.

I think Sandrake has gotten our advice now so maybe just lay off and let him make up his own mind

They don’t add more unless they can. Coneys has raised a definite possibility. Many people have gone to court to battle something and come off worse than what they went in. They may add another item to his original fine if they’re able to. 

On 7/2/2024 at 11:19 PM, Sandrake said:

Thank you for all your messages. I did own  up to it that he escaped. However it was an accident so I am standing firm by my decision to go to court. There is a lot of stigma in this neighbourhood against staffies. You cannot imagine .. people cross the road. It is that bad! Thanks again for your opinion. 

Ok, so let’s go with this reaction and trial it with different scenarios.

It’s 1:30pm and you get caught doing 80km in a 60km zone and the cop writes the time as 1:35pm. Would you take it to court?
 

A thief climbs in through an open window during the night and steals your tv. You hear him and look at your phone and note the time says 1:50am. When the thief is charged, the cops record the theft as being 2:30am. Should he argue his case?
 

I seriously don’t get the hang up on time, nor do I understand what you hope to achieve. Do you think you have a case to have the fine cancelled because the time was incorrectly recorded? Is that your motive - to deny responsibility and consequence? If it is, it shows a lack of moral judgement in my opinion. 
 

The best way you can contribute to changing perceptions about staffies is as someone else said before - model great behaviour and have a well trained, balanced dog. Don’t add to the poor perception of Staffy owner types by arguing against something you freely admit to being guilty of. Yes, it was an accident. It happens. We get that part. 

I’m sorry you’re going through this. Dogs will be dogs and sometimes they do get out.

I’d let it go. Ok, they got it wrong but why is the time such an issue? Regardless of the time, your broke the law. Cop it sweet and don’t put yourself or anyone else through the hassle. Use your energy to ensure he never gets out again. Fix whatever the problem is. 

My first question to anyone one offering services and goods on Facebook these days is ‘What is your ABN?’. Everyone should make this question as common as ‘How much?’.

I’ve been around pugs my whole life. I don’t breed them and never have aside from a family byb litter when I was a young girl.

There is no such thing as a pug with a good respiratory system - only degrees of deformity. The fact that the dog has a flattened face means it has issues with respiration. Full stop.

The flattened features and skull also predispose the dog to eye dislocations and optical exposure issues.
 

The screw tail is another deformity we deliberately breed into them. The tail is an extension of the spine. 

The cranial and spine deformities mean the breed is prone to neurological issues. 

I have rescued and owned pure bred pugs and byb bred. There is no difference in the number of health issues.
 

It doesn’t matter what a kennel club or breed club does. You can not breed out these issues unless you stop breeding a flat face, broad forehead and curl tail. pure and simple. 

On 24/12/2023 at 9:28 AM, Rebanne said:

i put my hand up to foster a Greyhound for Christmas from GAP Victoria. Picked her up last Saturday and paid for her on the Friday! Meet Rose, a lovely blue girl, 6 1/2. Magnificent ears and a roman nose to boot. She has slotted in seamlessly with Warrior (12 and 1/2 today!) and Phoebe. Jumps in the car, uses the dog door, loves squeaky toys, eats well, not scared of thunder, the list just keeps on going. I'm very happy.

Aww, gorgeous. Merry Christmas Rebanne, Rose, Warrior and Phoebe. 

Why did you email? I think perhaps a call would have been a better way to manage it given how the written word can be misconstrued. 
 

You’ve seen my posts over many years. Despite some opinions, I’m not a rude or nasty person but I understand my writing style can often be aggressive and negative. 
 

At work, because I am often perceived as aggressive or pushy when I write, I phone people. I’ve learnt, and I’m still learning, that people read responses in their own voice and that voice can be wrong. 

https://www.crookwellvet.com.au/AnimalCare/Dogs/1080poisoning.aspx
 

[quote]…although symptoms can take more than 6 hours to manifest. Initial symptoms include vomiting, anxiety and shaking. These quickly develop into frenzied behaviour with running and screaming fits, uncontrolled paddling and seizures, followed by total collapse and death from lack of oxygen to the brain. Rigor mortis sets in quickly.[/quote]

The activity after a seizure is called post-ictal. We had a pug who ran manic after his seizures. 
 

If he didn’t normally experience this with his seizures, and he subsequently died from his seizure, I’d be more inclined to think of poisoning or a bite. 
 

It could have been 1080 or a snake. 

4 hours ago, Powerlegs said:

I'd contact Zoetis Aus via email to check the batch.

If it really is dodgy after all, then you've got a pretty good looking counterfeit! 

Great advice as you always give. 

Hello! Welcome back.

5 hours ago, Lhok said:

I don't want to sound rude or offensive but this reads like something Chatgpt would write.

--Lhok

Hmm, I tested ChatGPT and it doesn’t seem to think so. 

“It's possible that this text was written by a human, as it exhibits a conversational and excited tone. However, I can't confirm its authorship without more context. The discussion about Sheepoodles and the curiosity about their appearance, temperament, and traits shows genuine interest in learning about new dog breeds.”

Creative? What drugs are you on. 
 

Cross bred poodles are always named with oodle in the last half of the name. Nothing creative about it. 
 

I'm wondering if you have a vested interest in ‘hearing more about them’ because your post sounds as sincere as me when I’m telling my boss I don’t mind at all staying back another hour to wait on something he should be waiting back for! 

Good luck with the new pup. 
 

In case you’re not already aware, in NSW you also have to register your dog with your local council. This is separate to the microchip, and must be done by the time the dog reaches 6 months of age unless you have an exemption. 
 

So you’ll have 3 things to do when it comes to the offical paperwork:

- ensure you receive the microchip transfer details at point of sale

- register your dog with the local council before it reaches 6 months of age

- receive your pedigree papers from the breeder

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10 hours ago, Dogsfevr said:

Actually a correctly written contract does stand up ,it may come down to how much money either side want to spend fighting it .
We sold a pup to one of Australias best contract lawyers who helped tweak ours & fully explained the pro/cons/must/must nots & all the must dos prior to accepting any monetary value .

We will have to agree to disagree. A The legal advice I’ve received over the years have indicated contracts do not stand up in court, especially when unreasonable.
 

In addition, you can’t enforce something which is breaking a law. If in NSW any breeder who does not reassign the microchip is breaking the law. This is an offence which is legislated in parliament. It’s not a guideline, but law. 
 

edited to also add - the breeder in this scenario obviously doesn’t think their contract stands up either otherwise they wouldn’t be threatening to withhold legal paperwork. 
 
 

On 12/8/2023 at 7:44 AM, Luvapoo said:

Everyone has different ideas on this.

 

I personally don't agree with dictating to a puppy buyer what they can or cannot do with a pup they have paid for.

 

I love it how some breeders think it's okay for them to breed, but not anyone else, and claim they are being ethical and responsible.  Oh Please.

 

I would check with your state body whether a breeder has the right to withhold the pedigree papers. 

 

As stated by others, the breeder must transfer the microchip to you, or give you the paperwork at the time of sale, so you can attend to it yourself.  

 

 

I agree in part with this. I don’t think they have the right however if they’re stating the conditions up front, anyone who purchases from them with the intent to ignore the conditions is being highly deceitful and unethical. 
 

I also understand your thoughts on the breeding aspect. It’s one of the biggest reasons (I personally believe) for the demise of the pedigree dog. 

Are they normal requirements? Well, they’re not abnormal put it that way. You either accept the requirements of you look elsewhere. 
 

However, in having said that, legally contracts like this have no solid standing as dogs are still goods and chattel. You can not tell someone who purchases an item what they can do with it once purchased. It’s as simple as that.
 

In NSW, it is law that the microchip papers are updated with the new owner’s name. So the breeder is breaking the law if they withhold these papers if they’re NSW based. I have no idea about other states but in NSW, even if the breeder doesn’t sign over the chip papers, you’re still safe as long as you have a receipt or other proof of ownership. Microchip papers do not indicate ownership on their own despite the wide held incorrect belief that they do.
 

I have no idea about the pedigree papers but according to the advice above, these must also be signed over. 
 

So ultimately my advice is - don’t buy this dog if it bothers you to work with the breeder on conditions they’re staying upfront. If you’re ok with it, continue with the purchase and enjoy your new little pup. 

Pug (multiple)

Labrador

German shep ( or in the day we called them Alsatians)

Weimeraner (multiple)

Loads of cross breeds

They all had pluses and minuses. 
 

I no longer have a dog. I may in the future and it would likely be something like a mini schnauzer or poodle. Something small, not huge on shedding and not smelly. I loved all my pugs but they’re smelly and the shedding did my head in. 

Dogs are dogs. There’s good and bad in all types and breeds. 
 

The biggest issue with not knowing the genetic history of the dog is not with health, as pointed out above. All dogs come with health concerns and lifestyle is also a major contributing factor.
 

Its temperament that isn’t always guaranteed with an unknown. 
 

You might, for example, buy a pug from a rescue and it could look like a pug but it could have Jack Russell in there and so it might be higher energy, and smart. It might be quicker to think and a tad fussier with food. Meanwhile you’re expecting a snuffling, laid back and almost lazy dog who is a canine vacuum.

OMG, I’m so sorry. I can hear the shock and pain in your writing. I now understand what the OT post meant. 
 

Run free Opal. Cyber hugs to you, Rebanne. Thinking of you. 

Yep, the risk of a bleed is increased greatly. It’s really only done in emergencies. Better off keeping her safe and waiting until she’s done. 

2 hours ago, Rebanne said:

Anne wasn't saying there was.

Exactly. Interesting that asal could see my post… dual log in perhaps? 

Impossible to tell from the pic. The markings could be Aussie Shep or they could be even cattle dog related. 
 

A few more pics would help. That blue merle type coat is in a number of breeds including the daschund, and they also come in a long haired variety.