Miranda

Our club wanted to buy a copy last year but we were told that they are no longer available due to privacy issues.

Chuck the supercoat, it dries the coat out as it's pure filler and low quality protein/fats.

Why don't you just put the dog on a home made diet and add something like Vets All Natural health booster powder to balance it out, and mix tinned fish through the mix. You'll notice a difference in no time. And less shampooing, strips out the coat.

I agree, dump the Supercoat and try another brand, if you want to continue to use a dry food, Nutro is very good. Have you stripped the dead coat out? Dead coat will make the coat look dry and dull and I doubt that a mobile groomer would know how to remove it. Also check the shampoo and conditioner they are using, they may say that it's a good product, but it may not suit the dog.

Oh no, I hadn't heard, Jane was a very lovely lady, how very sad.

A wonderful and gracious lady. RIP Yvonne.

Where is your tank located?

Under the rear of the car.

I have a Kia grand carnival and love it, it has eight seats if I need to take all my family out then I can drop the back seat into the floor and have a huge area. I can fit a crate big enough for my Newfoundland plus it has dual air-conditioning which he needs.

The middle row of seats can be removed individually, so if I am sleeping at a show I take them all out ( takes two minutes). Heaps of room to cart my gear then I can fit an air bed in the back for me to sleep in.

I fit the crate plus a huge show cage that I slide on top plus two gazebos, fridge,generator, grooming table, chair, mats and all my grooming gear no worries.

Not sure if its in your price range thou

We also have a Kia, heaps of room and it has dual fuel so cheap to run. Great dog show car IMO.

Take her to the shows, but be considerate of other exhibitors.

Love it! Well done Troy :clap:

You are grossly overreacting, no one can tell if a dog has hip dysplasia just by looking at it, the only way to diagnose dysplasia is by x-ray. The 'waddle' you speak of is pacing, not uncommon at this age or indeed at any age if the dog is moving slowly, dogs with perfect hips will pace occasionally. If your dog isn't showing any signs of discomfort or lameness I don't think you have anything to worry about AT THIS STAGE, wait until she is 12 months old and then have her x-rayed under the AVA scheme. However be aware that good hips and elbows are not the only criteria for breeding, conformation and temperament are also important considerations and above all your dog must have good type and be a good example of its breed.

I also agree with juice, IMO no reputable breeder would sell a puppy to a complete novice just for breeding. For a start breeders aren't clairvoyant and no breeder on this earth can say with complete certainty that an 8 week old puppy will be suitable for breeding as an adult. Secondly there is a LOT involved, it's not just a case of putting a female to a male of the same breed and getting lots of cute puppies that you can sell.

Let the puppy mature, keep her lean, don't over exercise and try to learn as much as you can about labs before you even think about mating her, believe me breeding isn't easy.

I think my objection is that haggling for a live animal seems quite distasteful, at least, it does to me.

Totally agree with the last two, I think it's a great idea.

Me too, personally I think Group 1 to 4 plus best puppy is all you need at all breeds shows, although class awards should definitely be offered at specialties.

It's entirely normal for some puppies to become hysterical when they first leave their dam and siblings, but your puppy is still in a familiar environment with familiar people so it seems a rather extreme reaction. However I wouldn't dose the puppy with anything, instead I'd spend some time with him, at 10 weeks a short play/training session will wear him out.

For cut pads or paws I just immerse the whole paw in a bowl of warm, salt water two or three times a day. They heal pretty quickly and I've never had one get infected.

Heartworm need about two weeks to develop inside a mosquito and it's temperature dependent, the preferred temperature is around 27 degrees and if it drops below 14 development is halted. I very seldom have a flea problem in Melbourne even during summer and never in winter, if I do find a flea I treat with Advantage. So no, I don't treat for fleas or heartworm during winter and I'm certainly not a fan of the monthly 'all in one' treatments, makes no sense to give chemicals to a dog when they're not needed.

Thx poocow, do you know who made the cut?

The other 4 in the Top 8 were - Bracco, Field, Flat and Wei

Thank you :)

Gundog

1. Lab

2. Irish Setter

3. Cocker Spaniel

4. GSP

Puppy in Group - GSP

Breeders Team - English Springer Spaniel

Thx poocow, do you know who made the cut?

Wonderful photos, thanks for posting Jed :)

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Picked it a while ago. Look at the overreaction to my saying terriers are too hard. Demands to know why I said it and then when he doesn't get a response, says people have a problem with my posts.

I missed that, I haven't been on for a while and I'm obviously not as 'DOL wise' as I used to be

I thought steamboat didn't like bull breeds? Or was it mixed breeds? Or am I confusing them with m-sass now? Multi-accounts are so confusing!

No, it's mixed breeds Steamboat doesn't like (per m-sass). Steamboat has a staffy, jerry lee has a staffy, both write in the same way, particularly the accusing people of a conspiracy thing when someone has simply disagreed with his point of view.

I didn't realise that jerry lee was Steamboat, no point in discussing the matter any further then, a complete waste of time :laugh:

Actually now jerry lee has got his knickers in a bit of a knot the posting style does seems familiar.

Censorship of opinions, such as Steves, or indeed attacking the opinions with misquided hyperbole should not go unchallenged either HW.

Try getting a true but uncomplementary missive printed in your state bodies journal & see how far you go.

The three monkeys gig doesn't cut it in a democracy....or at least it shouldn't

" If you always do what you have always done,

You will always get what you have always got"

Disagreeing with a post isn't censorship jerry lee.

Have you ever been on the committee of a breed club?

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing'. Attributed to Burke :)

Which, in many cases, is the problem.

Your club may just be the bestest little club on the planet.

Obviously Steve didn't have the enlightening experience of membership.

She must have been unforunate enough to experience the same despotic attitudes lots of other clubs display.

As have I.

jerry lee I am sure that some breed clubs do display 'despotic attitudes', but the point I am making is that one shouldn't make gross generalisations, unless you've been a member of every breed club in existence you can't possibly know that every club is the same.

And I do agree that one of the big problems with breed clubs is the lack of new blood on their committees, there are certain personality types that, because they've run the club for so long, begin to think that they own it (not sure if you were including me as one of these types, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt :)). But this isn't always their fault as the general members allow this to happen by refusing to participate. The solution is to get new people, including pet owners, onto committees to join in the running of the club. Easier said than done I know, but it is possible, it just requires good communication and a little effort. Once again I am speaking from personal experience.

And yes our club is definitely 'the bestest little club on the planet' :laugh:

Big politics and its where you see some of the worst of the dog world. - not for me.

Please don't generalise Steve, a lot of breed clubs do their very best for their members. Even though we are a minority breed we run a very successful club and have a large membership. Not all breed clubs are the same, the fact that you had a negative experience with one club doesn't give you the right to tar all clubs with the same brush.

Miranda Im not going to get into the crap here because I dont think its in the best interests of purebred dogs but my experience with breed clubs is not just about the ones I have been a member of and I get why some people don't have a great experience with them generally.

Steve, just suppose I posted:

'I owned a couple of Maremmas and I'd rather own just about any other breed than ever go there again. Nasty temperament and where you see some of the worst traits in dogs'

Would you not have replied requesting me not to generalise and tar all Maremmas with the same brush? And what would you think if I replied

'Steve I'm not going to get into the crap here because I don't think it's in the best interests of purebred dogs but my experience with Maremma is not just about the ones I've owned and I get why some people don't have a great experience with them generally'

Need I say more?

Anyway my apologies to all for going OT, I will now bow out of this thread :)

The difference is Steve is speaking from personal experience while you are speaking as a person in denial.

Oh dear it looks as if I'll have to bow in again :laugh:

Of course I'm speaking from personal experience, I've been a general/committee member of breed clubs for nearly 40 years :)

Big politics and its where you see some of the worst of the dog world. - not for me.

Please don't generalise Steve, a lot of breed clubs do their very best for their members. Even though we are a minority breed we run a very successful club and have a large membership. Not all breed clubs are the same, the fact that you had a negative experience with one club doesn't give you the right to tar all clubs with the same brush.

Miranda Im not going to get into the crap here because I dont think its in the best interests of purebred dogs but my experience with breed clubs is not just about the ones I have been a member of and I get why some people don't have a great experience with them generally.

Steve, just suppose I posted:

'I owned a couple of Maremmas and I'd rather own just about any other breed than ever go there again. Nasty temperament and where you see some of the worst traits in dogs'

Would you not have replied requesting me not to generalise and tar all Maremmas with the same brush? And what would you think if I replied

'Steve I'm not going to get into the crap here because I don't think it's in the best interests of purebred dogs but my experience with Maremma is not just about the ones I've owned and I get why some people don't have a great experience with them generally'

Need I say more?

Anyway my apologies to all for going OT, I will now bow out of this thread :)

Thanks Miranda, I do love the Gordons. They even have enough coat for me! Possibly not crazy enough ... ;)

Oh I don't know, they do have their moments :laugh:

Unfortunately the biggest problem in all breed clubs is getting people on committee, too many members (not in our club thank goodness) love to whinge, but aren't prepared to do anything positive to instigate change, it's very easy to sit on the sidelines and complain, not so easy to join committee and actually do something. At the moment we have two pet owners on committee, one is our newsletter editor and one is our obedience co-ordinator and also runs breed rescue (and horror of horrors she also owns a crossbreed but guess what, she hasn't been expelled from the club :D) Neither of them is involved in showing.

A breed club offers little to the pet owner as it's all about showing. You can do that without a breed club.

Sheridan you should get a Gordon Setter :), we do a lot for our pet owners, a grooming and fun day, a field trial training day/BBQ and a winter walk in one of our local parks. We also run an obedience trial, we are definitely NOT 'all about showing'.