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  1. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    Rude. Just because I chose not to respond due to being annoyed in my actual life and thought I would leave it til today. That's hardly a reason to say something like that. Remember real people are reading your words. kthnxbai No, not rude. You were the person (a real person) yesterday who was shooting your mouth off, generalising that a breed was unsound. No, not OK, thanks, bye. Yes SOME German Shepherds are hock-y BUT they CAN walk (if they could not walk they would not be alive let alone be in the show ring). Choose your words carefully; don't generalise or comment on something you know nothing about. I said 'can't walk properly' go check.
  2. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    I'm sorry but any breed of dog that can't walk properly because it has been bred that way (one individual or a showline) should not be bred from anymore or bred to a dog with better hocks to improve and correct. The truth hurts but in my opinion and my opinion only I believe many of the showline dogs here and overseas are in obvious need of correction in the hind legs. I'm glad the dog HW posted won as that shows a recognition of better/correct conformation. But that's only my opinion so don't take it too much to heart.
  3. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    I don't believe this can be placed firmly in the hand of those showing dogs. As has been discussed here, performance dogs in a lot of breeds barely resemble the originals of their breed either. I said evolution of two unique lines. Sometimes three for sporting lines. I think we have taken the breed and used it for so many different things (for breeds with a show/working/sporting split that we now have 3 totally different types for the job in hand. That's fine as long as it doesn't negatively impact the dog's ability to live day-to-day. I know someone that shows and competes in agility with their dogs (BCs) and their dogs a generally thicker set (not fat) and have a much denser coat compared to the person who just breeds for sporting and working and their lines are much less coat, much more streamlined and generally of a rather more intense temperament. I know several people who show and do agility/obedience with their BC's and are hugely successful at both. One of our breeding won the Goldstein GOLD medal at the Sydney Royal last year. I believe this particular dog fits the breed standard as it is written and what we, as breeders, have to measure our stock by. Yes I believe there can be a variation in "style" or "type" but basic conformation SHOULD be the same. Well in my opinion at least. and I agree with you but there a plenty of people who think their style is correct for what they do, even if it differs from the actual breed standard. And that's what it gets down to people having different opinions and breeding what they like to do what they like.
  4. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    I don't believe this can be placed firmly in the hand of those showing dogs. As has been discussed here, performance dogs in a lot of breeds barely resemble the originals of their breed either. I said evolution of two unique lines. Sometimes three for sporting lines. I think we have taken the breed and used it for so many different things (for breeds with a show/working/sporting split that we now have 3 totally different types for the job in hand. That's fine as long as it doesn't negatively impact the dog's ability to live day-to-day. I know someone that shows and competes in agility with their dogs (BCs) and their dogs a generally thicker set (not fat) and have a much denser coat compared to the person who just breeds for sporting and working and their lines are much less coat, much more streamlined and generally of a rather more intense temperament.
  5. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    Rude. Just because I chose not to respond due to being annoyed in my actual life and thought I would leave it til today. That's hardly a reason to say something like that. Remember real people are reading your words. kthnxbai
  6. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    Ok so I'll answer seriously as yesterday I was generally in a pissed off mood. My apologies to the people. How much to hip scores really mean when the dog can hardly walk? Maybe we should have hock scores too? I agree that HW's top one was a vast improvement on the breed from what I've seen and I've seen a lot of showline GSDs that have competed and are going to compete in the ring. I'm glad they are now rewarding better conformation than before and the issues are being recognised. Congratulations to them. I see it in kelpies also, the vast difference between bench and working. I agree that some bench have working instinct but you would rarely if ever see a bench in a true working environment for a variety of reasons. I'm starting to wonder if genetics are being altered as we we remove the dog from its original purpose to show it. Like in the silver fox experiment where the foxes were bred to be more docile and changed body shape and colour. I wonder also if this could be a similar thing and not fully on purpose just evolution of two unique lines.
  7. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    which one's and by more extreme what do you mean and is it to the detriment of the breed or the individual dog ? From what I've seen of past dogs in the lab breed and dogs in the breed today (talking showlines) the labs tend be much shorter, heavier and chunkier than the dogs of old. Hence they have become more extreme in the description of the standard. But that's just my opinion. you said " like a lot of breeds", do you care to explain which one's and what you feel is now extreme about them and if it's to the detriment of the breed or individual? GSDs and their back legs for example. That is to the detriment of the whole showline. I find that rather interesting as there are numerous being scored at 0/0 in elbow and very low in the hips, so I'm not sure how you think their "back legs" are a detriment to the whole show line. lol, you're joking right? You make me laugh. so just what is the problem and how is it to their detriment ? I would be expecting to see horrendous hip scores and elbow scores if there were such a major problem with construction. Why does their have to be a working line if the showline is able to perform the duty just as well? Oh yeah, they can't because they can't walk properly. That's my piece. You say whatever you feel you need to say. i won't change my mind. have a nice night :) really that's all you have to say on the subject. Hardly worth commenting on if that's your expert opinion and that's all you can come up with. I would have expected a little more from someone in the know. Maybe a few descriptive sentences about what the problems might be when it comes to conformation, perhaps a little anatomical talk. I like to keep you on your toes. You never know what to expect. *disappears in a puff of smoke*
  8. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    which one's and by more extreme what do you mean and is it to the detriment of the breed or the individual dog ? From what I've seen of past dogs in the lab breed and dogs in the breed today (talking showlines) the labs tend be much shorter, heavier and chunkier than the dogs of old. Hence they have become more extreme in the description of the standard. But that's just my opinion. you said " like a lot of breeds", do you care to explain which one's and what you feel is now extreme about them and if it's to the detriment of the breed or individual? GSDs and their back legs for example. That is to the detriment of the whole showline. I find that rather interesting as there are numerous being scored at 0/0 in elbow and very low in the hips, so I'm not sure how you think their "back legs" are a detriment to the whole show line. lol, you're joking right? You make me laugh. so just what is the problem and how is it to their detriment ? I would be expecting to see horrendous hip scores and elbow scores if there were such a major problem with construction. Why does their have to be a working line if the showline is able to perform the duty just as well? Oh yeah, they can't because they can't walk properly. That's my piece. You say whatever you feel you need to say. i won't change my mind. have a nice night :)
  9. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    which one's and by more extreme what do you mean and is it to the detriment of the breed or the individual dog ? From what I've seen of past dogs in the lab breed and dogs in the breed today (talking showlines) the labs tend be much shorter, heavier and chunkier than the dogs of old. Hence they have become more extreme in the description of the standard. But that's just my opinion. you said " like a lot of breeds", do you care to explain which one's and what you feel is now extreme about them and if it's to the detriment of the breed or individual? GSDs and their back legs for example. That is to the detriment of the whole showline. I find that rather interesting as there are numerous being scored at 0/0 in elbow and very low in the hips, so I'm not sure how you think their "back legs" are a detriment to the whole show line. lol, you're joking right? You make me laugh.
  10. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    which one's and by more extreme what do you mean and is it to the detriment of the breed or the individual dog ? From what I've seen of past dogs in the lab breed and dogs in the breed today (talking showlines) the labs tend be much shorter, heavier and chunkier than the dogs of old. Hence they have become more extreme in the description of the standard. But that's just my opinion. you said " like a lot of breeds", do you care to explain which one's and what you feel is now extreme about them and if it's to the detriment of the breed or individual? GSDs and their back legs for example. That is to the detriment of the whole showline.
  11. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    which one's and by more extreme what do you mean and is it to the detriment of the breed or the individual dog ? From what I've seen of past dogs in the lab breed and dogs in the breed today (talking showlines) the labs tend be much shorter, heavier and chunkier than the dogs of old. Hence they have become more extreme in the description of the standard. But that's just my opinion.
  12. Worrying Trend In The Show Ring

    Like a lot of breeds this one has also become more extreme.
  13. Transport Needed

    It's ok, the dogs were picked up last week. I've been working long weeks and taking meds that knock me out when i get home so I've been out of the pound loop this week :laugh:
  14. I see it all the time and it make me so frustrated. Most people won't listen to reason and then expect you to clean up after them.
  15. Transport Needed

    Maree, call the cootamundra ranger on Tuesday when he's back (sub ranger til then) he said he may be able to bring the two Coota ones to Yass for you.
  16. Huntrox! The coats are such good quality and a great size for the big dogs! Thank you
  17. Companion

    As long the dog is not used in lieu of owner-dog time. I know people who have companions for their dogs but give both equal amounts of one-on-one time and the dogs are happy and well-adjusted. I also know people who get another dog for the sake of their first dog and then they have two frustrated and destructive dogs and even less time.
  18. Pet Bereavement Leave

    Generally no, but I know someone that got a week off after her dog was killed in absolutely horrible circumstances.
  19. Help! My Stafford Is Pregnant

    Perhaps you might like to stick to dispensing advice for a breed that you have actually had something to do with. Perhaps you should be less rude. I was being helpful and have experience with deaf Staffords and know it does happen. Have a nice day :) No one is denying it happens. However the way you post suggests that it happens a lot. SBT people say it doesn't. Very confusing and worrying for the breeder of these pups don't you think? Just out of interest, how many is the "plenty" of deaf White Staffords you have encountered? Are you sure you don't mean Bull Terriers? I actually used to know a lady in the hunter valley, quite a few years ago that rescued deaf/partialky deaf white staffers mostly, she had about 4 or 5 over the time I I knew her. I have also come across a few in shelters and met one reg sbt completely white and completely deaf. I am not sure whether the rescued ones were pure on not but they looked very staffy. I have only met a couple of deaf bts. I've known quite a few deaf acds though. They're not uncommon around here unfortunately. I didn't mean to scare her (if I did) , I was just concerned. And there in lies your problem. Your "shelter" experience is not experience with pedigree registered dogs, the dogs you are describing could and are likely to be cross bred. I know breeders that have 30 or more years in the breed and are yet to breed a deaf one and plenty of them have been white. I understand what you're saying and acknowledge that in this case the likelihood of the pups being deaf is very low. I'm sure the owner will Notice if one is not responding to sound properly and take proper steps.
  20. Help! My Stafford Is Pregnant

    Perhaps you might like to stick to dispensing advice for a breed that you have actually had something to do with. Perhaps you should be less rude. I was being helpful and have experience with deaf Staffords and know it does happen. Have a nice day :) No one is denying it happens. However the way you post suggests that it happens a lot. SBT people say it doesn't. Very confusing and worrying for the breeder of these pups don't you think? Just out of interest, how many is the "plenty" of deaf White Staffords you have encountered? Are you sure you don't mean Bull Terriers? I actually used to know a lady in the hunter valley, quite a few years ago that rescued deaf/partialky deaf white staffers mostly, she had about 4 or 5 over the time I I knew her. I have also come across a few in shelters and met one reg sbt completely white and completely deaf. I am not sure whether the rescued ones were pure on not but they looked very staffy. I have only met a couple of deaf bts. I've known quite a few deaf acds though. They're not uncommon around here unfortunately. I didn't mean to scare her (if I did) , I was just concerned.
  21. Help! My Stafford Is Pregnant

    Perhaps you might like to stick to dispensing advice for a breed that you have actually had something to do with. Perhaps you should be less rude. I was being helpful and have experience with deaf Staffords and know it does happen. Have a nice day :)
  22. Help! My Stafford Is Pregnant

    Just stating what I believe to be a good idea, but do what you think is right. As for others and their thinly veiled insults....ugh
  23. Help! My Stafford Is Pregnant

    You've been googling too much. There is no need for the OP to rush off and have them tested, stop the scaremongering. I have seen plenty of white staffords with hearing issues, it's not scaremongering it's concern. Thanks.
  24. Help! My Stafford Is Pregnant

    Please have those puppies checked for deafness. They are very cute and squishy.
  25. Please message me if you have visited coota pound since I took over coordinating rescue. Cheers
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