Teen Stabs Attacking Dog

[twodoggies2001]

Lol two doggies.

The "killer dog" "got what it deserved" ?

"most likely would have done the same to the kids living next door" ?

Your talking about a dog that attacked another dog. You make it sound like your talking about Ivan Milat. You should be a journalist.

So, you find it so amusing. That dog did get what it deserved, don't you think? I do. If it was crazed enough to attack unprovoked, and finished with it's canine victim, how do you know it wouldn't have turned on the kids, huh? I don't care if it was pit bull or as an example, a poodle, or any other breed. It attacked and therefore was a dangerous dog. Ivan Milat has nothing to do with this and I am amused with the comparison. I am talking about a crazed dog. Maybe, I should consider journalism in the future.

[persephone]

crazed dog

hmmm...

Dogs who attack with intent to kill are often deadly serious and act with planning and intent They are totally focussed on their victim. I would not class them as crazed...as ,in my mind, crazed would be a dog just running down a street ,maybe..biting people/dogs haphazardly..

I wasn't there, so didn't see the dog attack, so cannot state what frame of mind the attacker was in. I do know though, that if a dog is so intent on killing, then that is the only thing running thru its brain.

I have no idea why it attacked- perhaps there was a nearby bitch in season- perhaps the other dog smelt odd, who knows? It often only takes a tiny spark. :D

I guess, if it was a human, we could say they may be 'crazed'..because people have so many rules and social behaviours which usually do not include attacks causing death.When it does happen- then, yes, often a person is unbalanced/crazed.

dogs live by entirely different rules, and some dogs will and do fight to the death .While thankfully not common, I do not see it as so unusual.

As for doing the same thing to children... I would not jump to that conclusion lightly, as dog/dog aggression is VERY different to dog/human aggression.

Edited April 13, 2010 by persephone

[Zhou Xuanyao]

So, you find it so amusing.

You ? Yes, quite.

That dog did get what it deserved, don't you think?

No, I don't. It's a dog. A dog can't "deserve" anything. You are humanizing the dog, projecting.

You don't know if the dog was "crazed". Some dogs, when they fight, it's not easy to get them to stop. This dog apparently is one of them. Thats not "crazed". He wanted to fight, so he did. There was no one effective there to break up the fight, so they continued until it came to a conclusion.

Would this dog attack a child ? I don't know the dog. Neither do you. Your logic seems to be, that because it attacked this dog then its is "probable" that it would attack kids. Well, thats not right.

[twodoggies2001]

crazed dog

hmmm...

Dogs who attack with intent to kill are often deadly serious and act with planning and intent They are totally focussed on their victim. I would not class them as crazed...as ,in my mind, crazed would be a dog just running down a street ,maybe..biting people/dogs haphazardly..

I wasn't there, so didn't see the dog attack, so cannot state what frame of mind the attacker was in. I do know though, that if a dog is so intent on killing, then that is the only thing running thru its brain.

I guess, if it was a human, we could say they may be 'crazed'..because people have so many rules and social behaviours which usually do not include attacks causing death.When it does happen- then, yes, often a person is unbalanced/crazed.

dogs live by entirely different rules, and some dogs will and do fight to the death .While thankfully not common, I do not see it as so unusual.

As for doing the same thing to children... I would not jump to that conclusion lightly, as dog/dog aggression is VERY different to dog/human aggression.

Perhaps my choice of word (crazed) was not the correct one to use, but that dog is better off gone. I'm only sorry that the young boy and his siblings had to go through this ordeal

[persephone]

twodoggies- I agree the attacker should have been killed , and I too am very sad the lad and others had to watch and intervene like that. It must have been horrible.

[animalia]

I think that the owner of the dog that attacked is responsible for what happened. Why? because if you decide to keep a dog that has a tendency to be aggressive you need to be prepared to keep it under your full control, this means training and making sure that the enclosure where it stays is suitable (I'm sure that this isn't the first time it's shown aggression or at least the owners would of known that it was not a stable dog). I am the owner of a dog that is both unpredictable with humans and dogs, and I knew this when I took her on. I make sure that I train her daily, exercise her daily, and socialise her daily in controlled environments, and make sure that there is no way of her being at large in the community, (and no she's not a pit bull).

We shouldn't drag the pit bulls name through the dirt like the media and narrow minded people do. Every time there's a dog attack the media points to a pit bull.

I've worked in the dog industry for 11 years in both a shelter environment and boarding facility and I have only seen one aggressive pit bull but i have also seen dogs such as a Labrador take a chunk out of a co-workers leg (requiring stitches). So its not about the breed its about the owner of the dog at the other end of the lead!

Just my 2 cents :D

[bluecollie]

Since this news story is still being shredded can I throw in a simple question for everyone?

Is there anyone here who CAN truly look back upon their life & NOT recount even one time that they could have handled a situation differently??

In all honesty, I doubt it - in hindsight its easy to see the changes needed

Everyone has 20/20 hindsight but in an emergency or when panic stricken people rarely have time to analyse let alone contemplate the pros n cons of their actions they just do what their instinct tells them to do there and then..especially when a loved one is under major threat.

Now, remembering this panic stricken person was merely a 13yr old boy whos beloved family dog was being mauled before his very eyes.. I imagine perhaps he too 'in hindsight' has easily contemplated the changes needed to have handled the situation & somehow successfully managed to save his dog..

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[whippets]

Since this news story is still being shredded can I throw in a simple question for everyone?

Is there anyone here who CAN truly look back upon their life & NOT recount even one time that they could have handled a situation differently??

In all honesty, I doubt it - in hindsight its easy to see the changes needed

Everyone has 20/20 hindsight but in an emergency or when panic stricken people rarely have time to analyse let alone contemplate the pros n cons of their actions they just do what their instinct tells them to do there and then..especially when a loved one is under major threat.

Now, remembering this panic stricken person was merely a 13yr old boy whos beloved family dog was being mauled before his very eyes.. I imagine perhaps he too 'in hindsight' has easily contemplated the changes needed to have handled the situation & somehow successfully managed to save his dog..

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Totally agree with you. That's why I posted the "crisis" situation when the defendant's barrister was asking the victim "why didn't you do this "why didn't you do that".

So many shoulda woulda coulda's on this board.

Edited April 13, 2010 by whippets

[animalia]

in a perfect world the boy shouldn't of ever been put in that position

[I love dribbly dogs]

It's very hard to have an opinion on any news stories really..

Who's to say the 13 yr old and his friend didn't let the dog into the yard? Who's to say they didn't stir it up or something? Was it a neighbours dog their lab tormented through the fence? Or some random dog roaming the streets with a grudge?

An hour and a half seems a long time.. weren't the kids yelling? Weren't the dogs making noise.. were no other neighbours alerted? or parents? or police?

I'm inclined to believe the worst in humans before I believe the worst in animals... but this is just my personal view.

RIP dear doggies.

Edited April 14, 2010 by I love dribbly dogs

[sandgrubber]

in a decent world he would not have been put in this position. I think it's a bad sign of the times that a dog jumped a fence and killed another dog. It's totally off that the kid who tried to protect his dog is subsequently held up for questioning. J.H.Krist. If some farmer shot a dog that killed one of his sheep there'd be no question and the owner of the killer dog would be in some sort of a pickle. No one would be saying 'perhaps the farmer opened the gate and welcomed the dog in'. Who cares what breed. I don't.

in a perfect world the boy shouldn't of ever been put in that position

Edited April 14, 2010 by sandgrubber

[Souff]

It's totally off that the kid who tried to protect his dog is subsequently held up for questioning. J.H.Krist. If some farmer shot a dog that killed one of his sheep there'd be no question and the owner of the killer dog would be in some sort of a pickle. No one would be saying 'perhaps the farmer opened the gate and welcomed the dog in'. Who cares what breed. I don't.

Same here.

[justin19801]

Perhaps farmers need to adequately fence. If they can't afford too perhaps farming is not their game. BTW what the heck has this to do with farmers anyhow???

[whippets]

Perhaps farmers need to adequately fence. If they can't afford too perhaps farming is not their game. BTW what the heck has this to do with farmers anyhow???

Do you work for PETA by any chance?

[Staranais]

Perhaps farmers need to adequately fence. If they can't afford too perhaps farming is not their game. BTW what the heck has this to do with farmers anyhow???

Do you work for PETA by any chance?

Obviously s/he's never been on a farm. A regular wire farm fence won't keep dogs out. My malinois slides through farm fences with ease. You'd need to do deer fencing around your farm to keep dogs out, a huge expense to farmers.

People need to control their dogs in rural and urban areas.

[justin19801]

Perhaps farmers need to adequately fence. If they can't afford too perhaps farming is not their game. BTW what the heck has this to do with farmers anyhow???

Do you work for PETA by any chance?

It is you and PETA who support BSL, pas mois.

[Janba]

Perhaps farmers need to adequately fence. If they can't afford too perhaps farming is not their game. BTW what the heck has this to do with farmers anyhow???

The farmer needs fencing that keeps his stock not expensive dog fencing to keep out the dogs of people to irresponsible to keep them confined behind adequate fencing.

[whippets]

Perhaps farmers need to adequately fence. If they can't afford too perhaps farming is not their game. BTW what the heck has this to do with farmers anyhow???

Do you work for PETA by any chance?

It is you and PETA who support BSL, pas mois.

roight

[mantis]

A young child's face was bitten today by the grandfathers dog, child had to go to hospital, yet hardly any media coverage, I wonder why?

OH that's right, they couldn't pretend it was an APBT.

[justin19801]

A young child's face was bitten today by the grandfathers dog, child had to go to hospital, yet hardly any media coverage, I wonder why?

OH that's right, they couldn't pretend it was an APBT.

Too right, it was a tradgedy whatever the breed. That's why we need an investigative unit to look into all attacks and come up with reasons so we can avoid, in future, based on facts not suppositition. Unfortunately supporters of BSL have no compassion for victims of breeds other than alleged APBTs.