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Neospora & Molly


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HI everyone,

Well we have had a weekend of tears, molly's bloodwork has finally come in.

She has Neospora. Biopsies have also shown that she has multi cell tumors over her body now, (4 weeks ago when we first started testing to see what was wrong they were clear of any cancerous cells :mad and we had no idea what was wrong)

We have been given a maximum of 6mths together.

As Molly has had no exposure to fecal matter, or placental matter, we are of the belief that she has detracted the Neospora from her previous diet of BARF. Which given that neospora is transported as Cattle and Bovine animals being the major host with dogs as the secondary host. I fed my dogs raw human grade beef which was generally chest frozen for 2-3 days prior to feeding, she would ocassionally get the odd fresh steak. Please be careful if you are feeding an older or ill dog barf, if their immunity is low then the risks of contracting Neospora from infected meat is higher.

Jacqui

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How very sad that you have had to have this news .

But unless Im mistaken the tumors arent caused by the neospora ?

Thats right steve, sorry what I was meaning is that if you have an ill dog the chances of them developing Neospora is heightened due to their low immune system, (especially in middleaged dogs). Not that neospora will cause them to get cancer, its the other way around, if a dog is ill they can develop the neospora when fed the infected meat.

Jacqui

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Bommy, sorry to bother you while you must be so upset - but I have a question. Someone else has asked me about neospora and I think you will have the answer.

Above you stated that the multi-celled tumours were not caused by the neospora. So I'm wondering, what are the effects of neospora? Is the fact that she has it contributed to her short time left with you? Or is it just the cancer? All I need to know is what symptoms and long term effects there are of neospora in dogs. Thank you - and I hope you're feeling better.

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Aatanic,

Okay details of Molly's neospora:

Rapid/laboured Breathing (for a while we put this down to our tropical climat)

Lethargy (again put down to the heat)

a bunny hop gait when she did move

stiffness in her walk

refusal to climb into/out of the car

avoiding any activity at all even ball chasing

stopped jumping of things (ie lounge to floor she just slithers now)

a loss of appetite

weight loss 20% of her body weight in a short period.

Her back started to roach

When we realised it wasnt the heat, we thought pneumonia but the tests came back clear, then we thought cancer, had biopsies & aspirations done & the came back clear as well with the only abnormality as being a high liver count

Then I spoke to someone who mentioned the article in an old Boxer mag that spoke of neospora, that is when I went in & requested we test specifically for the disease, the vets did IgA & IgMs & sent them away the titres as I mentioned elsewhere came back at 1:2500, considering elsewhere they traditionally start treatment at 1:125. When we started Molly on the traetment for the Neospora which was as soon as i asked could this be it she had a pick up in about 48-72 hrs, she has stopped losing weight & is able to maintain it. The cancer they have given us 3-6mths with, the neospora will take her earlier if we are not successful in treating it.

Sorry got to run the kids are killing each other

Jacqui

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okay back,

At this stage it is believed that a dog if caught early enough can be treated & survive neospora however if exposed to it again could have relapses or may end up immune, it varies from dog to dog a bit like how most ppl when they get chickenpox as a kid should not get it again yet some people do get it again.. The roached back will stay.

We are using trisaprim & diaprim in conjunction to treat the neospora, the big side effect here is that you cant use any other drugs (it is preffered not to) whilst treating for that.

I hope I have answered your question

We speak to the specialist again this afternoon/tomorrow so I will have more answres for you then if you want to put down any other queries you have I will see if I can get answers for you.

Jacqui

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