Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I dont think anybody is saying that some dogs of Bull Breed lines are not dog aggressive as certainly some are but a responsible owner knows to keep their dog under control in a public place and not put other dogs at risk. People wonder why anti bsl supporters can come across as overly defensive, it is because the load of rubbish the media and Bull Breed haters spout about dogs that they really know nothing about. I challenge anybody to find an ounce of hate in their heart for these very happy wiggle butted people lovers if they would only look past the prejudice held against them and spend some time with one. Thank you. JoeK - I am anti-BSL and a Bull Breed owner (An "Amstaff" and a BullArab type crossbreed) I am well aware of the pre-disposition that some breeds of dogs and many breeds of bullies have to aggression. I am aware of it and I take measures to make sure my now 9 months old Amstaff X has the best chance to be a well socialised ambassador for her breed. It is this acceptance and the resulting training/socilaising that is the difference between a responsible owner and an irresponsible one. You will find that the "Anti-BSL club" is pointing out that it is the irresponsible owners who take no steps to prevent their dog becoming aggressive or worse the people who also mistreat them that cause the aggressive side to become dominant and dangerous not that the dogs do not have the pre-disposition. Many times the irresponsible owners are just ignorant and do not realise the training they need to put in and then don't manage the dogs correctly.(I certinaly was when I got my first dog and she now has DA issues but you know what I acknowledge that, I acknowledge my part in her issues and I am responsible when it comes to her now ie: making sure she cannot escape and not putting her into situations that will compromise her) Look at it this way if we wipe out the pit bulls what breed is next?? How many breeds are wiped off the face of the plant before you will realise BSL is a load of tosh created to make the public feel safe and the politics look good. Maybe when the only dogs allowed are under 10kgs?? Poodiful Having a different opinion to these people, and trying to get people to see it from another perspective, leads these people to insult and belittle and an I couldn't care less what you think attitude. It is a true reflection to the mentality of the kinds of people that are so intent on having breeds with bad reputations. We will never change everyone's mind I guess. Maybe one day you will own a breed who has a bad reputation and then you will understand the frustration and sadness that it causes when people belittle and demonize not only the breed but in turn your dog. Hell will freeze over before I ever own a dog that will have people shaking in their boots at the mere sight of my dog. I am personally not afraid of any particular breed, what I am afraid of is what they can potentially do to one of my little ones. I also have to keep a watchful eye out whenever I am out with mine. They really don't have the capacity to protect themselves, so when threatened, my dogs have no alternative but to flee. I was once at Elsterwick Park with my 5 guys when a bull x came charging up from 100 metres away, this dog zoned into my one girl Gracie, she fled, the owner was very far away, had no recall, Gracie was running to save her life, and was chased onto the road, I was standing there calling Gacie, but I was helpless to do anything, I had 4 other dogs with me, and I had the think of the safety of all my dogs. It took about 2 minutes for the owner to catch his dog, only then was Gracie free to run back to me. I was just lucky that little Gracie was a little faster and more agile to avoid the jaws of death of this dog. And the too bad attitude people have in this kind of circumstance, forcing me to be on full alert at all times when out with my dogs. I have many stories of how my littlies have been threatened by larger dogs with idiot owners. Unless there is a strategy, to alleviate such circumstances, I'm all for it, but personal insults won't help me to change my mind, it's hardly constructive now is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Oh I might ad, this incident had a profound affect on my girl Maddie, who now has a fear of all other breeds, I'll never win anything in group with her because of it. And I don't know how to get her out of the mindset that other breeds are dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Aidan2 sometimes practice is better than theories. You probably have theory how to train protection dog and probably what I say is different to your theory or what someone elses saying, but until you train sucessful protection dog yourself and absorbing experience to your blood our page in the book is different, yes. Oh I agree wholeheartedly! The problem is that I am skeptical of your identity and claimed experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 but personal insults won't help me to change my mind, it's hardly constructive now is it? I can't see where you have been insulted, poodiful1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsrawesome Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Oh I might ad, this incident had a profound affect on my girl Maddie, who now has a fear of all other breeds, I'll never win anything in group with her because of it. And I don't know how to get her out of the mindset that other breeds are dangerous. This behaviour might be reflected from your feelings? If you are always on edge when you go out of course they will pick up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 but personal insults won't help me to change my mind, it's hardly constructive now is it? I can't see where you have been insulted, poodiful1? I wasn't, but Joe sure was, see post 47, and your doubt over his crudentials is insulting to him if he has them, English is not Joe's first language. And the too bad for you attitude of post 46 towards me, instead of being constuctive. I on the other hand take responsibility as it's my obligation to be as informative as possible about Toy Poodles, and if I don't have the answer, I try to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hell will freeze over before I ever own a dog that will have people shaking in their boots at the mere sight of my dog. I am personally not afraid of any particular breed, what I am afraid of is what they can potentially do to one of my little ones. I also have to keep a watchful eye out whenever I am out with mine. They really don't have the capacity to protect themselves, so when threatened, my dogs have no alternative but to flee. I was once at Elsterwick Park with my 5 guys when a bull x came charging up from 100 metres away, this dog zoned into my one girl Gracie, she fled, the owner was very far away, had no recall, Gracie was running to save her life, and was chased onto the road, I was standing there calling Gacie, but I was helpless to do anything, I had 4 other dogs with me, and I had the think of the safety of all my dogs. It took about 2 minutes for the owner to catch his dog, only then was Gracie free to run back to me. I was just lucky that little Gracie was a little faster and more agile to avoid the jaws of death of this dog. And the too bad attitude people have in this kind of circumstance, forcing me to be on full alert at all times when out with my dogs. I have many stories of how my littlies have been threatened by larger dogs with idiot owners. Unless there is a strategy, to alleviate such circumstances, I'm all for it, but personal insults won't help me to change my mind, it's hardly constructive now is it? And with that attitude we will never change your mind so we are wasting our time with you. You have taken one bad experience and now you judge not only an entire breed but a group of breeds. No one has personally insulted you....I see no insults Oh I might ad, this incident had a profound affect on my girl Maddie, who now has a fear of all other breeds, I'll never win anything in group with her because of it. And I don't know how to get her out of the mindset that other breeds are dangerous. This behaviour might be reflected from your feelings? If you are always on edge when you go out of course they will pick up on it. That is exactly right Dogsrawesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) Hell will freeze over before I ever own a dog that will have people shaking in their boots at the mere sight of my dog. I am personally not afraid of any particular breed, what I am afraid of is what they can potentially do to one of my little ones. I also have to keep a watchful eye out whenever I am out with mine. They really don't have the capacity to protect themselves, so when threatened, my dogs have no alternative but to flee. I was once at Elsterwick Park with my 5 guys when a bull x came charging up from 100 metres away, this dog zoned into my one girl Gracie, she fled, the owner was very far away, had no recall, Gracie was running to save her life, and was chased onto the road, I was standing there calling Gacie, but I was helpless to do anything, I had 4 other dogs with me, and I had the think of the safety of all my dogs. It took about 2 minutes for the owner to catch his dog, only then was Gracie free to run back to me. I was just lucky that little Gracie was a little faster and more agile to avoid the jaws of death of this dog. And the too bad attitude people have in this kind of circumstance, forcing me to be on full alert at all times when out with my dogs. I have many stories of how my littlies have been threatened by larger dogs with idiot owners. Unless there is a strategy, to alleviate such circumstances, I'm all for it, but personal insults won't help me to change my mind, it's hardly constructive now is it? And with that attitude we will never change your mind so we are wasting our time with you. You have taken one bad experience and now you judge not only an entire breed but a group of breeds. No one has personally insulted you....I see no insults Oh I might ad, this incident had a profound affect on my girl Maddie, who now has a fear of all other breeds, I'll never win anything in group with her because of it. And I don't know how to get her out of the mindset that other breeds are dangerous. This behaviour might be reflected from your feelings? If you are always on edge when you go out of course they will pick up on it. That is exactly right Dogsrawesome. follow the red quotes!!!And what attitude is that? Because I don't wish to own a dog that could intimidate others? And the personal insults don't have to be directed at me to be there in black and white!!! Edited May 9, 2011 by poodiful1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I wasn't, but Joe sure was, see post 47, and your doubt over his crudentials is insulting to him if he has them, English is not Joe's first language. I wouldn't mention it if I didn't have a good reason and I know I'm not the only one who thinks it, so if he is genuine at least he has the opportunity to set the record straight. He is under no obligation, of course, this is the internet after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) Hell will freeze over before I ever own a dog that will have people shaking in their boots at the mere sight of my dog. I am personally not afraid of any particular breed, what I am afraid of is what they can potentially do to one of my little ones. I also have to keep a watchful eye out whenever I am out with mine. They really don't have the capacity to protect themselves, so when threatened, my dogs have no alternative but to flee. I was once at Elsterwick Park with my 5 guys when a bull x came charging up from 100 metres away, this dog zoned into my one girl Gracie, she fled, the owner was very far away, had no recall, Gracie was running to save her life, and was chased onto the road, I was standing there calling Gacie, but I was helpless to do anything, I had 4 other dogs with me, and I had the think of the safety of all my dogs. It took about 2 minutes for the owner to catch his dog, only then was Gracie free to run back to me. I was just lucky that little Gracie was a little faster and more agile to avoid the jaws of death of this dog. And the too bad attitude people have in this kind of circumstance, forcing me to be on full alert at all times when out with my dogs. I have many stories of how my littlies have been threatened by larger dogs with idiot owners. Unless there is a strategy, to alleviate such circumstances, I'm all for it, but personal insults won't help me to change my mind, it's hardly constructive now is it? And with that attitude we will never change your mind so we are wasting our time with you. You have taken one bad experience and now you judge not only an entire breed but a group of breeds. No one has personally insulted you....I see no insults Oh I might ad, this incident had a profound affect on my girl Maddie, who now has a fear of all other breeds, I'll never win anything in group with her because of it. And I don't know how to get her out of the mindset that other breeds are dangerous. This behaviour might be reflected from your feelings? If you are always on edge when you go out of course they will pick up on it. That is exactly right Dogsrawesome. follow the red quotes!!! And what attitude is that? Because I don't wish to own a dog that could intimidate others? And the personal insults don't have to be directed at me to be there in black and white!!! Now who is being insulting. So what...big dog owners on here could give you a list a mile long about small dogs that have bailed them up, get over it. It is the idiot owners not the breeds or the size of the breeds. Small dog owners cry to high heaven when they get bailed up by larger dogs but those of us with big dogs have to shut up and put up because "little dogs cannot hurt ours" but if our big dogs defended themselves well heaven forbid they would then be declared dangerous. I have two big dogs. My older dog is DA but I am responsible about it I would never take her to a park and let her loose EVER! Stop generalising it is offensive. Idiot owners come with all breeds of all shapes and sizes. So how about you concentrate on ALL idiot owners not just some and stop judging breeds. ETA - I own two large breed dogs, one who is the breed in question and neither intimidate people. People can't stop fawning over Phoenix. No the attitude that all Bull Breeds are bad. Also what intimidates one person doesn't necessarily intimidate another. Some people may be intimidated by your Toy Poodles, maybe they have had a bad experience with one, personally I have had bad experiences with a Toy Poodle owned by my ex OH's parents. Does that mean you will be ditching Toy Poodles?? Edited May 9, 2011 by Keira&Phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. I never said you called all big dog owners idiots, just that all sizes and breeds of dogs can have idiot owners. We need to concentrate on the problem and instead of banning breeds which just makes them more attractive to the people who want tough, illegal dogs deal with the owners. Make it compulsory to do obedience courses, make it so instead of registration, dog owners have to go through a course and get a license. Regulate owners not dogs. And then if your dog attacks a human or another animal unprovoked you get charged and your license suspended until further notice. We need to be hard with the people who allow their dogs to do these things. Edited May 9, 2011 by Keira&Phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. I never said you called all big dog owners idiots, just that all sizes and breeds of dogs can have idiot owners. We need to concentrate on the problem and instead of banning breeds which just makes them more attractive to the people who want tough, illegal dogs deal with the owners. Make is compulsory to do obedience courses, make it so instead of registration, dog owners have to go through a course and get a license. Regulate owners not dogs. 4 Pitbulls Maul Us Woman To Death is the title of this thread. Pitbulls have the capacity to kill one of my little ones in a second.If 4 little dogs came charging at me, I would be able to defend myself, I've got feet, I can kick and punch them. My dogs do not pose a threat, nor are they intimidating in the slightest, unless you've got a phobia, why should I have to go to obedience so people should be aloud to walk around with intimidating dogs that from my experience have almost killed one of mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. I never said you called all big dog owners idiots, just that all sizes and breeds of dogs can have idiot owners. We need to concentrate on the problem and instead of banning breeds which just makes them more attractive to the people who want tough, illegal dogs deal with the owners. Make is compulsory to do obedience courses, make it so instead of registration, dog owners have to go through a course and get a license. Regulate owners not dogs. 4 Pitbulls Maul Us Woman To Death is the title of this thread. Pitbulls have the capacity to kill one of my little ones in a second.If 4 little dogs came charging at me, I would be able to defend myself, I've got feet, I can kick and punch them. My dogs do not pose a threat, nor are they intimidating in the slightest, unless you've got a phobia, why should I have to go to obedience so people should be aloud to walk around with intimidating dogs that from my experience have almost killed one of mine? Ahhh ok I see so it is ok for little dogs to be running around hassling people off lead because we can just kick them away??? I doubt the owners would be happy when their little off lead dog ran up to my on lead dog and got bitten. People are allowed to walk around with "intimidating" dogs now. Pitbull's are only 1 of many "intimidating" breeds out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppoochi Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. I never said you called all big dog owners idiots, just that all sizes and breeds of dogs can have idiot owners. We need to concentrate on the problem and instead of banning breeds which just makes them more attractive to the people who want tough, illegal dogs deal with the owners. Make is compulsory to do obedience courses, make it so instead of registration, dog owners have to go through a course and get a license. Regulate owners not dogs. 4 Pitbulls Maul Us Woman To Death is the title of this thread. Pitbulls have the capacity to kill one of my little ones in a second.If 4 little dogs came charging at me, I would be able to defend myself, I've got feet, I can kick and punch them. My dogs do not pose a threat, nor are they intimidating in the slightest, unless you've got a phobia, why should I have to go to obedience so people should be aloud to walk around with intimidating dogs that from my experience have almost killed one of mine? Ahhh ok I see so it is ok for little dogs to be running around hassling people off lead because we can just kick them away??? I doubt the owners would be happy when their little off lead dog ran up to my on lead dog and got bitten. People are allowed to walk around with "intimidating" dogs now. Pitbull's are only 1 of many "intimidating" breeds out there. twist what i'm saying why don't you, i'm out of here, can't be bothered once people start twisting my words!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) The government has marginalized many restricted breed owners and their dogs with their prejudiced BSL. The truth is the group as a whole has nothing to apologize for and has no case to answer, despite some people's haughty fantasies in which hapless RB owners seek their approval. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum; I share some of the concerns you have raised as do most people, but they are part of the broader context of animal management. Edited May 9, 2011 by Lo Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottnBullies Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. I never said you called all big dog owners idiots, just that all sizes and breeds of dogs can have idiot owners. We need to concentrate on the problem and instead of banning breeds which just makes them more attractive to the people who want tough, illegal dogs deal with the owners. Make is compulsory to do obedience courses, make it so instead of registration, dog owners have to go through a course and get a license. Regulate owners not dogs. 4 Pitbulls Maul Us Woman To Death is the title of this thread. Pitbulls have the capacity to kill one of my little ones in a second.If 4 little dogs came charging at me, I would be able to defend myself, I've got feet, I can kick and punch them. My dogs do not pose a threat, nor are they intimidating in the slightest, unless you've got a phobia, why should I have to go to obedience so people should be aloud to walk around with intimidating dogs that from my experience have almost killed one of mine? Ahhh ok I see so it is ok for little dogs to be running around hassling people off lead because we can just kick them away??? I doubt the owners would be happy when their little off lead dog ran up to my on lead dog and got bitten. People are allowed to walk around with "intimidating" dogs now. Pitbull's are only 1 of many "intimidating" breeds out there. twist what i'm saying why don't you, i'm out of here, can't be bothered once people start twisting my words!!!!! Best thing you've said all day! I for one will not be bothered by your attitude or anyone else In here for that matter, It gets tiring having to defend your breed constantly from people such as the likes of yourself who Intentions are questionable! And for JoeK I'm not wearing rose coloured glasses, and neither are all the responsible bull breed owners out there. Responsible owners know exactly what their dogs are capable of, and they do their darn hardest not to set them up for failure unlike the rest of them who keep bringing these breeds Into the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. You are targeting the wrong end of the leash Any large powerful breeds In a pack situation such as In this case, with owners who don't give a damn could have yielded the same results, as has already happened before. It only takes one to start them all off Into an attacking frenzy This Is not a ( Pit Bull breed) Isolated only problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira&Phoenix Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I was referring to the likes of the guy and all like him that don't have any control over their dogs, please don't twist my words.... Just because someone has a large dog doesn't make them an idiot. I never said you called all big dog owners idiots, just that all sizes and breeds of dogs can have idiot owners. We need to concentrate on the problem and instead of banning breeds which just makes them more attractive to the people who want tough, illegal dogs deal with the owners. Make is compulsory to do obedience courses, make it so instead of registration, dog owners have to go through a course and get a license. Regulate owners not dogs. 4 Pitbulls Maul Us Woman To Death is the title of this thread. Pitbulls have the capacity to kill one of my little ones in a second.If 4 little dogs came charging at me, I would be able to defend myself, I've got feet, I can kick and punch them. My dogs do not pose a threat, nor are they intimidating in the slightest, unless you've got a phobia, why should I have to go to obedience so people should be aloud to walk around with intimidating dogs that from my experience have almost killed one of mine? Ahhh ok I see so it is ok for little dogs to be running around hassling people off lead because we can just kick them away??? I doubt the owners would be happy when their little off lead dog ran up to my on lead dog and got bitten. People are allowed to walk around with "intimidating" dogs now. Pitbull's are only 1 of many "intimidating" breeds out there. twist what i'm saying why don't you, i'm out of here, can't be bothered once people start twisting my words!!!!! Best thing you've said all day! I for one will not be bothered by your attitude or anyone else In here for that matter, It gets tiring having to defend your breed constantly from people such as the likes of yourself who Intentions are questionable! And for JoeK I'm not wearing rose coloured glasses, and neither are all the responsible bull breed owners out there. Responsible owners know exactly what their dogs are capable of, and they do their darn hardest not to set them up for failure unlike the rest of them who keep bringing these breeds Into the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. You are targeting the wrong end of the leash Any large powerful breeds In a pack situation such as In this case, with owners who don't give a damn could have yielded the same results, as has already happened before. It only takes one to start them all off Into an attacking frenzy This Is not a ( Pit Bull breed) Isolated only problem Thank you, that is everything I have been trying to get across in my last 20 posts but I am not very good as vocalising and certainly not putting on "paper" what I am trying to get across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeK Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Aidan2 sometimes practice is better than theories. You probably have theory how to train protection dog and probably what I say is different to your theory or what someone elses saying, but until you train sucessful protection dog yourself and absorbing experience to your blood our page in the book is different, yes. Oh I agree wholeheartedly! The problem is that I am skeptical of your identity and claimed experience. Aidan2 is obvious to me on your postings you have good experience in the pet dog training and behavior mechanics on the dog to share knowledge with the people and is up to them if they thinking is good knowledge for taking on board and if people thinking I am wrong, its ok is there right for thinking that I am not upset from this and is how the world ticks. I am not trainer looking for work to competing against other trainers for customer to pick me for needing resume production, is for me nice get together with people here to chat about the dog, have bit of pleasure and maybe learning something new. I dont knowning any body personal in this boards doesnt matter to me, the people having communicating skill and the love of the dog is all we needing for good chat and discussion and the rest doesnt matter for me. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeK Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I dont think anybody is saying that some dogs of Bull Breed lines are not dog aggressive as certainly some are but a responsible owner knows to keep their dog under control in a public place and not put other dogs at risk. People wonder why anti bsl supporters can come across as overly defensive, it is because the load of rubbish the media and Bull Breed haters spout about dogs that they really know nothing about. I challenge anybody to find an ounce of hate in their heart for these very happy wiggle butted people lovers if they would only look past the prejudice held against them and spend some time with one. Thank you. JoeK - I am anti-BSL and a Bull Breed owner (An "Amstaff" and a BullArab type crossbreed) I am well aware of the pre-disposition that some breeds of dogs and many breeds of bullies have to aggression. I am aware of it and I take measures to make sure my now 9 months old Amstaff X has the best chance to be a well socialised ambassador for her breed. It is this acceptance and the resulting training/socilaising that is the difference between a responsible owner and an irresponsible one. You will find that the "Anti-BSL club" is pointing out that it is the irresponsible owners who take no steps to prevent their dog becoming aggressive or worse the people who also mistreat them that cause the aggressive side to become dominant and dangerous not that the dogs do not have the pre-disposition. Many times the irresponsible owners are just ignorant and do not realise the training they need to put in and then don't manage the dogs correctly.(I certinaly was when I got my first dog and she now has DA issues but you know what I acknowledge that, I acknowledge my part in her issues and I am responsible when it comes to her now ie: making sure she cannot escape and not putting her into situations that will compromise her) Look at it this way if we wipe out the pit bulls what breed is next?? How many breeds are wiped off the face of the plant before you will realise BSL is a load of tosh created to make the public feel safe and the politics look good. Maybe when the only dogs allowed are under 10kgs?? Poodiful Having a different opinion to these people, and trying to get people to see it from another perspective, leads these people to insult and belittle and an I couldn't care less what you think attitude. It is a true reflection to the mentality of the kinds of people that are so intent on having breeds with bad reputations. We will never change everyone's mind I guess. Maybe one day you will own a breed who has a bad reputation and then you will understand the frustration and sadness that it causes when people belittle and demonize not only the breed but in turn your dog. Yes, I understanding the anti-BSL club intention is not the problem I see, is the problem the anti BSL club refusing to understanding why dogs having the potential in the genes for aggression is not a good thing in the community because dealing with aggressive dog for the responsible ownership and keeping thing safe is job of dedication that many pet owners cannot do properly so they say if they getting rid of dogs like this then is something dogs owners not having to deal with is a better thing for the pet. Is very difficult to make dog aggressive to attack people if they dont having aggression in the genes, is why they dont using Labrador as defense dog in the police and use him for sniffing. Is the same reason they dont using high drive German Shepherd at the airport for sniffing around the people becuase the wrong trigger on this dogs he can bite people where the Labrador wont do this so easily and safer breed around the public. The deed not the breed thing for me is wearing thin becuase is stupid saying this and everyone know some breed is more likey to have aggression in his genes than others except the anti BSL club is the main grouping who not recoginise this and becuase they dont recognising is one reason my opnion is they not taken seriously on their argument. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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