piperspal Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/vcat-must-decide-just-what-makes-a-pit-bull/story-fn7x8me2-1226271098445 Sheesh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Poor people. 7 month old innocent dogs who have done nothing wrong but unfortunately have an appearence that questionably resembles a pit. Bloody joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dame Aussie Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 And people wonder why Pit Bull owners get upset, FFS!!! Lock jaw? Are they for real???? This is a disgrace, if these people don't even know something like lock jaw doesn't exist what chance is there? Total joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bslsux Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Observed Mind blowing information presented by the Council legal team and Council representatives. Duration 4 1/2 to 5 hours not including breaks. Patently false to many of us but sadly not to the poor 20 year old kids representing themselves and trying to save the lives of their two dogs. Also, I would guess not to the VCAT members hearing the case who I don't think are required to have any particular knowledge on the subject. The Government would be proud of the Council flexing their muscles, abusing their power and spending their ratepayers money, as their legal eagle inferred in the interests of public safety. Also the ACO Robert Ianson (an ex policeman of 30 years service) stated under oath that he had attended a Victorian Dog Breeders (aka VCA / Dogs Victoria) course on restricted breed dog identification therefore alluding that he was qualified to id. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that this was when Dogs Victoria showed breeds that may be mistaken as restricted breed dogs. There were no restricted breed dogs (known or otherwise) present. It is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvawilow Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 While I think this case appears to be a joke perhaps it might help discourage people from buying from BYB and unregistered breeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I dare say Robert Ianson might be their best defence if this article is accurate. His claims are so spurious it should be very easy to thoroughly discredit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Observed Mind blowing information presented by the Council legal team and Council representatives. Duration 4 1/2 to 5 hours not including breaks. Patently false to many of us but sadly not to the poor 20 year old kids representing themselves and trying to save the lives of their two dogs. Also, I would guess not to the VCAT members hearing the case who I don't think are required to have any particular knowledge on the subject. The Government would be proud of the Council flexing their muscles, abusing their power and spending their ratepayers money, as their legal eagle inferred in the interests of public safety. Also the ACO Robert Ianson (an ex policeman of 30 years service) stated under oath that he had attended a Victorian Dog Breeders (aka VCA / Dogs Victoria) course on restricted breed dog identification therefore alluding that he was qualified to id. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that this was when Dogs Victoria showed breeds that may be mistaken as restricted breed dogs. There were no restricted breed dogs (known or otherwise) present. It is a disgrace. I'm really upset to hear this. I wish they were being represented by someone who could really help them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rottshowgirl Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Also the ACO Robert Ianson (an ex policeman of 30 years service) stated under oath that he had attended a Victorian Dog Breeders (aka VCA / Dogs Victoria) course on restricted breed dog identification therefore alluding that he was qualified to id. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that this was when Dogs Victoria showed breeds that may be mistaken as restricted breed dogs. There were no restricted breed dogs (known or otherwise) present. Correct. Dogs Vic showed purebred dogs of various breeds that could be mistaken for restricted breeds to the untrained eye. The idea was to show what these recognised, ANKC acknowledged purebreed dogs looked like, to assist with identification when the council officers were out in the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sniffalot Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 How disappointing these pupppies are cross bred who knows what they will look like when they finish maturing, right now they look like pit bull crossing but give them a chance bull mastiffs are slow to mature and who really knows what a bull mastiff, American bulldog and staffordshire cross pup looks like at 7 months. The pups have done nothing wrong they have not been found at large, the owners tried to have them registered and are being punished for doing all the right things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 "These traits included "lock jaw and scissor teeth", muscular build, head profile and size-to-weight ratio. " so anything with a scissor bite could end up under suspicion... I dont even like the pit bulls.. but those puppies are adorable and at 7 months sure look like a friends mastiff pups no one can predict what many purebreds are going to end up...as for x breds.. that council worker sure has some big ideas of their ablity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochmad Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 How stupid. Those poor people doing the right thing by registering their dogs only to end up losing their dogs that are innocent and whose only fault is 'looking' like a perceived type of dog. What gets me is this stupid rule of focusing on dogs that 'may' be a risk down the track, just because of the way they look rather than focusing on dogs that are already nuisances. We have a stumpy tailed blue heeler in our street that is very agressive, has bitten children, attacked dogs and roams the street, yet that dog is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace_Of_Mind Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 How stupid. Those poor people doing the right thing by registering their dogs only to end up losing their dogs that are innocent and whose only fault is 'looking' like a perceived type of dog. What gets me is this stupid rule of focusing on dogs that 'may' be a risk down the track, just because of the way they look rather than focusing on dogs that are already nuisances. We have a stumpy tailed blue heeler in our street that is very agressive, has bitten children, attacked dogs and roams the street, yet that dog is still alive. No justice - these dogs have done nothing wrong and have responsible owners doing the right thing, and yet like you said pooch a dog in your street attacked other dogs and bitten children - go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 These traits included "lock jaw and scissor teeth", muscular build, head profile and size-to-weight ratio. The appeal centres on how to identify dangerous or restricted breeds. Just shows what idiots council our states.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 While I think this case appears to be a joke perhaps it might help discourage people from buying from BYB and unregistered breeders. Lol you cant buy an APBT from a registered breeder..... unfortunatly they are also illegal to breed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumosmum Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Observed Mind blowing information presented by the Council legal team and Council representatives. Duration 4 1/2 to 5 hours not including breaks. Patently false to many of us but sadly not to the poor 20 year old kids representing themselves and trying to save the lives of their two dogs. Also, I would guess not to the VCAT members hearing the case who I don't think are required to have any particular knowledge on the subject. The Government would be proud of the Council flexing their muscles, abusing their power and spending their ratepayers money, as their legal eagle inferred in the interests of public safety. Also the ACO Robert Ianson (an ex policeman of 30 years service) stated under oath that he had attended a Victorian Dog Breeders (aka VCA / Dogs Victoria) course on restricted breed dog identification therefore alluding that he was qualified to id. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that this was when Dogs Victoria showed breeds that may be mistaken as restricted breed dogs. There were no restricted breed dogs (known or otherwise) present. It is a disgrace. I'm really upset to hear this. I wish they were being represented by someone who could really help them I have given them contact details for Solicitor, and they have said they will be contacting him. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melzawelza Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thank you so much carolee I'm so glad to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybrax Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Observed Mind blowing information presented by the Council legal team and Council representatives. Duration 4 1/2 to 5 hours not including breaks. Patently false to many of us but sadly not to the poor 20 year old kids representing themselves and trying to save the lives of their two dogs. Also, I would guess not to the VCAT members hearing the case who I don't think are required to have any particular knowledge on the subject. The Government would be proud of the Council flexing their muscles, abusing their power and spending their ratepayers money, as their legal eagle inferred in the interests of public safety. Also the ACO Robert Ianson (an ex policeman of 30 years service) stated under oath that he had attended a Victorian Dog Breeders (aka VCA / Dogs Victoria) course on restricted breed dog identification therefore alluding that he was qualified to id. I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that this was when Dogs Victoria showed breeds that may be mistaken as restricted breed dogs. There were no restricted breed dogs (known or otherwise) present. It is a disgrace. I'm really upset to hear this. I wish they were being represented by someone who could really help them I have given them contact details for Solicitor, and they have said they will be contacting him. :) Thank you carolee ...x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 where is the "like" button when you need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvawilow Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 While I think this case appears to be a joke perhaps it might help discourage people from buying from BYB and unregistered breeders. Lol you cant buy an APBT from a registered breeder..... unfortunatly they are also illegal to breed.... I am aware of that and nowhere did I say they brought a pair of APBT! The dogs pictured look like the typical "pig dog" that is usually produced by ferals and bogans who live in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Ferals and bogans in my area also. Some own big xbreds, some own little white fluffies, some own purebreds of all types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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