Akayla Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 You can call them a Czechoslovakian vlcak instead. Yes I am Chris :) yes i have had a different breed but a "wolfdog". Sadly she passed away last year. I miss her alot. CzWs are as close as I can get to her breed. Sorry that your doggie passed away. What was she? The people that were breeding them are pretty private about them and dont sell to the public. Basically they used some of the foundation dogs for the CzW but breed for temperament and not looks. Its not a official breed. Czechoslovakian Shepherds was the term they were using. Many years have passed though so I have no idea what they are doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasels Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Not a myth: http://www.cattledog.com/misc/history.html Thanks. Very concise. Have heard so many stories over the years about this breed, some of which include the mention of both the corgi and the dalmation! Nice to know what's what as it's not a breed whose history I've really looked into (unitl todaythat is :) That's my "something new" for today then. ACDs are well documented as having dingo, there's even a scientific paper in a vet journal about it :) It's the kelpies that people argue over. The 'kelpie people' swear there wasn't any in the foundation of the breed but I'm convinced it's been bred in by individual farmers here and there ;) Edit - Robert Kaleski (mentioned in the link) wrote a nice little book called 'Australian Barkers & Biters' which is available as an e-book and covers the early days of Australia and its dogs :) Edited September 21, 2012 by Weasels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannibalgoldfish Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I wouldnt buy a pup and Ive been trying to get another wolfdog for over 10 years! Desperate but not stupid! I don't quite get what you mean? Your last dog sounds as much as a crossbreed as these, what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hmm lets see. 30 yrs of careful breeding where all animals have health tests, only best temperament used and pups given the best start in all ways vs someone who randomly used a cross with no health testing, no socialisation for pups and little care to what they turn out and to who it goes to... :laugh: maybe its just me but I can see a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris the Rebel Wolf Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hmm lets see. 30 yrs of careful breeding where all animals have health tests, only best temperament used and pups given the best start in all ways vs someone who randomly used a cross with no health testing, no socialisation for pups and little care to what they turn out and to who it goes to... :laugh: maybe its just me but I can see a world of difference. I second that... I think you need to be VERY aware of these issues when you are talking a breed like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 What I was saying was that I wouldnt want a pup given what information I have and my experience. That doesnt mean that Im right. I havent had the chance to get anymore info so thats what I go on. This person could be a great breeder but bad with people. Who knows. Not for me though. Yes Chris. How sad it is that all the plans made to introduce this breed in a careful manner have gone out the window. Hopefully ethical breeders who do the right thing still import. Otherwise Im not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 You can call them a Czechoslovakian vlcak instead. Yes I am Chris :) yes i have had a different breed but a "wolfdog". Sadly she passed away last year. I miss her alot. CzWs are as close as I can get to her breed. If you ever bring one across can you please let me know? I would be interested to hear your thoughts on them. I have several friends in Europe who are involved with &/or breed these dogs and they are on my list of "when the children leave home" dogs I'd like to own. I have heard trickles of information regarding their trainability and temperament but I am not confident enough to bring one over and start off with them myself - not until I've learned a lot more about them at least. Like most breeds its all about the breeder you get them from, especially a working breed. The forum is not bad for learning about them, lots of photos and stories of every day life. I found with my girl the first couple of years were the hardest. Once we got past that (heaps of training) she was a dream dog. That description fits quite a number of working breeds. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yes it does :laugh: I guess with my wolfdog once she did settle down she was very very easy. She was very clever and would sometimes come up with her own way. She would learn something super fast and would often figure something out without me teaching her. She ate my tv when she was 6 months old though :laugh: Also had a taste for cacti? In comparison my GSD needs constant reinforcement, and takes a few goes to get it. She also looks to me for a lot more direction and does alot of things for herself. Its hard to explain but they were both good dogs but completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Yes it does :laugh: I guess with my wolfdog once she did settle down she was very very easy. She was very clever and would sometimes come up with her own way. She would learn something super fast and would often figure something out without me teaching her. She ate my tv when she was 6 months old though :laugh: Also had a taste for cacti? In comparison my GSD needs constant reinforcement, and takes a few goes to get it. She also looks to me for a lot more direction and does alot of things for herself. Its hard to explain but they were both good dogs but completely different. Can you upload some pics of your wolfdog? I'd love to see what she looked like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyliedelonge Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I havent read everyone's post, so sorry if its been said, but the CSV Is a recognised dog breed and although it has "wolfdog" in the name, its not a hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sares Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The price has been taken off the trading post ad - how much were they going for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 $1500 to start i think. Mystic I will eventually lol. She wasnt bred to look like a wolf. She was bred to be a good worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Incase anyone is interested its been confirmed (as you can read for yourselves) that the sire and grandsire are non registered which given there has been crosses out of that kennel before is a bit suspicious. I will leave you all to make up your own minds :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Mystic I will eventually lol. She wasnt bred to look like a wolf. She was bred to be a good worker. I haven't seen any that don't resemble wolves- would be interesting to see yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Sure. You can also google Timber Shepherds. Another working line. Ive posted this pic before but there you go :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WExtremeG Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 very pretty- I love the look of bi colours. Must admit that I hadn't heard of "Timber Shepherds" before - just the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akayla Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Thanks. That was her at 5 months I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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