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Greylvr   

Ah, thanks for clearing that up! I am sometimes amazed myself at the amount of self control the dog has in just freezing and pointing. I am still having trouble having her hold when the animal makes a break for it, but it can be done as long as I am not slow to react.

I can't believe a dog can actually run down a rabbit, Foxy has tried and has no hope :p And the foxes are just plain too clever, they run behind an obstacle, wait for the dog to get close enough to have their vision blocked and then break into a different direction out of sight o the dog. We have not done any scent work yet so Foxy does not know to use her nose to find the trail, she just runs straight haha

How do you find the dog if it does not return? Also, are you still allowed to hunt using coursing hounds or is it guns only now?

I have never hunted with sighthounds but when building some website for some hunters with beagles and Curs they told me they put a tracking collar on them to find them if they dont come back

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BlackJaq   

Ah, I saw those but they are like $450!! :eek: Lol what did they do back in the days before they had those? lol

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Ah, I saw those but they are like $450!! :eek: Lol what did they do back in the days before they had those? lol

Back in the day, coursing was a rich man's sport in large fenced acreages. Back before fences they rode on horseback to keep up.

Coursing live hare is illegal in Australia, and is not a nice experience for the hare.

Greyhounds were never expected to come back on command, then or now.

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BlackJaq   

Wow, this is really interesting! I am surprised that coursing live hares is not allowed but pigging with pack of dogs is ? (Correct me if I'm wrong, many people seem to do it anywways). Is it because the pig dog handler is supposed to make the kill even if the dogs are the first ones on the pig whereas with hounds and hares the hounds make the kill? Also, what about ratting with terriers? Is that still allowed?

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Brisbane council had a team of terriers for ratting. Not sure if they were supposed to kill the rats or just flush them out.

The laws don't talk about what the breed of dog is or what the prey is, but they do ban setting a dog onto another animal to kill it. If a pig dog just holds the pig, it's owner isn't breaking the law.

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Greylvr   

Brisbane council had a team of terriers for ratting. Not sure if they were supposed to kill the rats or just flush them out.

The laws don't talk about what the breed of dog is or what the prey is, but they do ban setting a dog onto another animal to kill it. If a pig dog just holds the pig, it's owner isn't breaking the law.

I use to do trials with my JRT and he had to go under ground follow a series of tunnels and find the rat which was in a cage and asleep most the time :rofl: That was pretty fun and then we had the JRT races so fun

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BlackJaq   

Ah, that clears that up! Yes, officially they only hold the pig but of course nobody can police this out in the sticks.

I think I'd better go find a relevant thread for my questions now, sorry for hijacking this one! :bolt:

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Rebanne   

Ah, thanks for clearing that up! I am sometimes amazed myself at the amount of self control the dog has in just freezing and pointing. I am still having trouble having her hold when the animal makes a break for it, but it can be done as long as I am not slow to react.

The greyhound that just stands and stares at a cat in the house and never even flicks an ear when you speak to it is not cat friendly at all. If you can break the gaze with minimum effort then the greyhound can be worked with. But yes they will lunge at the cat, especially if it moves. The unbreakable fixed gaze is my biggest clue to how they will go with a cat. Sometimes the lunging and yipping is mostly excitement and can also be worked with - if you know what you are doing.

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Ah, thanks for clearing that up! I am sometimes amazed myself at the amount of self control the dog has in just freezing and pointing. I am still having trouble having her hold when the animal makes a break for it, but it can be done as long as I am not slow to react.

I can't believe a dog can actually run down a rabbit, Foxy has tried and has no hope :p And the foxes are just plain too clever, they run behind an obstacle, wait for the dog to get close enough to have their vision blocked and then break into a different direction out of sight o the dog. We have not done any scent work yet so Foxy does not know to use her nose to find the trail, she just runs straight haha

How do you find the dog if it does not return? Also, are you still allowed to hunt using coursing hounds or is it guns only now?

Whippets are the fastest dogs in the world over a short distance. I find non-whippet folk who see the dogs at speed tend to have to pick their jaws up off the ground. They are blisteringly fast. They can run up to 50kph, but like a cheetah, cannot sustain their speed for long. If the catch hasn't been made within a few hundred metres, the dogs will give up before they overheat. If a rabbit does not go to ground and cannot out manoevre the dogs (they are traditionally coursed in pairs) it is toast. Hares on the other hand are larger, wilier, faster and can turn on a dime. In countries where hares can be legally coursed, the hare wins two times in three I believe. Whippets will usually make their kills within sight of the place they are released. However I don't think coursing live prey is legal anywhere in Australia.

The larger sighthounds are quite specialised for both the terrain and the prey they were bred to course. They will travel much longer distances and I think many were traditionally followed on horseback.

This is probably a discussion we should be having in the sighthound thread! I find the differences between the varying sighthound breeds quite fascinating.

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Greylvr   

Ah, thanks for clearing that up! I am sometimes amazed myself at the amount of self control the dog has in just freezing and pointing. I am still having trouble having her hold when the animal makes a break for it, but it can be done as long as I am not slow to react.

The greyhound that just stands and stares at a cat in the house and never even flicks an ear when you speak to it is not cat friendly at all. If you can break the gaze with minimum effort then the greyhound can be worked with. But yes they will lunge at the cat, especially if it moves. The unbreakable fixed gaze is my biggest clue to how they will go with a cat. Sometimes the lunging and yipping is mostly excitement and can also be worked with - if you know what you are doing.

We have one that is so fixated on cats we didnt even try it with cats, we can tell she wont go well. Lucky was a bit different didnt care about the cat when she saw it and if she saw it through the door we would tell her lucky no come here and she would. We tried her with the cat and it was a no go. So we wont place her with cats either but like you said you can usually tell when its not even worth trying with the cat.

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:( Gonna have to take Lucky into the vet looks like she has ear mites poor girl. :cry:

Did you end up taking her to the vet Greylvr?

Nope gotta call monday to set an appointment.

Did you get Lucky to the vet today?

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Rebanne   

Any news on Lucky? :) How did she go at the vet? hoping all went well. :crossfingers:

Lucky has been moved on as well as Ina.

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minimax   

Any news on Lucky? :) How did she go at the vet? hoping all went well. :crossfingers:

Lucky has been moved on as well as Ina.

As in they found permanent home already?

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Rebanne   

Any news on Lucky? :) How did she go at the vet? hoping all went well. :crossfingers:

Lucky has been moved on as well as Ina.

As in they found permanent home already?

no and not PTS, moved on elsewhere

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minimax   

Any news on Lucky? :) How did she go at the vet? hoping all went well. :crossfingers:

Lucky has been moved on as well as Ina.

As in they found permanent home already?

no

Oh, we'll I guess she was just fostering them, despite loud protestations to the contrary!

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Greylvr   

Lucky hasnt been moved on she is in a foster home for now. Lucky is fine and doing well actually not that you guys really care about Lucky or Ina or any dog you just get a kick out of our misery you guys are too much.

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HazyWal   

No that's not right Greylvr. I don't get a kick out your misery at all and am concerned about the dogs as everyone is.

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No it's quite upsetting to read about because misery could have been avoided.

I think you should remove the dogs from sale until they are healthy and ready to be adopted. The dogs haven't had enough time to adjust either.

Why the rush to get them into homes?

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Greylvr   

They are not up for sale, they are posted on my facebook, and Ina is posted on egreyhound. They wouldnt be going to be adopted until they are ready. So new rule no rescue can place a dog on a site unless its ready to be homed? Gotcha should I alert all rescues with dogs up that arnt ready for adoption right that minute

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