laffi Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 My dogs are on raw diet... heaps of RMBs etc.. but my golden retriever's top canine teeth still have quite a bit of plaque near the gums. Even sporadic brushing that I do doesn't help. What can I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everythings Shiny Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 You could try adding Plaque off to the diet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 You can try adding organic kelp to the diet; the expensive way is to import Proden Plaque Off, or much easier on the wallet.... buy the same product from DOLer Steve Ascophyllum nodosum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewieTAG Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 You can try adding organic kelp to the diet; the expensive way is to import Proden Plaque Off, or much easier on the wallet.... buy the same product from DOLer Steve Ascophyllum nodosum How much would you give that to a dog of 5kg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 You can try adding organic kelp to the diet; the expensive way is to import Proden Plaque Off, or much easier on the wallet.... buy the same product from DOLer Steve Ascophyllum nodosum How much would you give that to a dog of 5kg? Literally, a pinch would suffice. On the Proden container it says to give dogs & cats under 10kg, half to one scoop. I measured a pinch of the kelp & it is roughly half a scoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Forgive my ignorance - What's kelp supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Forgive my ignorance - What's kelp supposed to do? Its not the normal kelp that most people think of. As far as we are told it is from a kelp with a specific origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentchild Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 My dog has the same issue - RMBs everyday, brushing her teeth often, and she's been on Plaque Off for about a year now - but still no difference with plaque on her canines. It's very frustrating. Short of her having a dental at the vets I'm not sure what more I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Syme Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 My dogs are on raw diet... heaps of RMBs etc.. but my golden retriever's top canine teeth still have quite a bit of plaque near the gums. Even sporadic brushing that I do doesn't help. What can I do? It is because the cainines are the "killing teeth", and they do not get worked in a domestic dog, and there is little to no contact during chewing. You will need to maintain physical abraision (brushing) to keep plaque to a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Forgive my ignorance - What's kelp supposed to do? Ascophyllum nodosum, a particular species of seaweed, is absorbed into the bloodstream & in conjunction with saliva works systemically to stop plaque sticking to the teeth. It does make plaque on the canines easier to remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Forgive my ignorance - What's kelp supposed to do? Ascophyllum nodosum, a particular species of seaweed, is absorbed into the bloodstream & in conjunction with saliva works systemically to stop plaque sticking to the teeth. It does make plaque on the canines easier to remove. Yes, it must do. My 9yo Cavalier has never had a dental and she has always had Ascophyllum Nodosum added to her food. Her canine teeth are as clean and white as the rest of her teeth. She can't have raw meaty bones. Cavaliers are notorious for needing regular dentals so it must work. However my 10yo Cav who also has the product added to his diet does need an occasional dental. This dog can not have RMB either. I can't explain why it seems to work well for one of my Cavs but not the other. Maybe my 10yo boy would need regular dentals rather than just the occasional one if he didn't have this product in his diet. Both dogs also have roo or goat tendons or bully sticks to chew following their meals in the hope of removing plaque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Forgive my ignorance - What's kelp supposed to do? Ascophyllum nodosum, a particular species of seaweed, is absorbed into the bloodstream & in conjunction with saliva works systemically to stop plaque sticking to the teeth. It does make plaque on the canines easier to remove. Thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denali Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Excuse the ignorance, is the kelp added to food, or dissolved in their drinking water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It's added to wet food. If you feed dry you'll probably need to mix it with some yoghurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 You could buy a dental scaler and gently scrape off the build up. It's very easy to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochmad Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Interesting. Does it work if the dog already has plaque on the teeth? Or will it just stop more being added? Or can it remove plaque that is already there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Interesting. Does it work if the dog already has plaque on the teeth? Or will it just stop more being added? Or can it remove plaque that is already there? I'd say it doesn't get rid of existing plaque or my 10yo boy wouldn't have needed the only dental he's ever had. My 9yo girl gets no plaque yet both dogs have the same diet and the same quantity of the seaweed product added to their food. I suspect this is because girl will patiently chew a large dental rice bone after meals and the 10yo boy won't, he just carries it around. Chewing the rice bone probably scrapes the plaque away. The seaweed product softens the plaque so you can scrape it off with a scaler. My boy isn't happy for me use the scaler. Probably because he only gets plaque on the two molars right at the back of his mouth. The best thing to keep dogs teeth perfectly clean are raw meaty bones. None of my dogs have ever needed a dental when they were having RMB. When I had to stop giving them the 10yo developed plaque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I would clean it off with a hand dental scaler. I added Proden to my cats diet and it didn't seem to make much difference. The dogs had one type of dry food which was shocking for it, changed it and its just about all come off - they do get treats and bones but was the same with the other dry food. If there are little spots I clean them with a hand scaler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifecta Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 For those with questions on Ascophyllum Nodosum, PlaqueOff have an information .pdf for dogs. There is also information on clinical studies on the benefits of Proden PlaqueOff on humans here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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