Thousands Of Dog Attacks Reported In Melbourne

[BlackJaq]

Your experience mirrors my experience in Berlin and Paris last year - I saw lots of large dogs, especially in Berlin. I felt that their dogs were well socialised, no matter the breed, because of their living style; apartments - often small. They have to get their dogs out and about and thus dogs and people are much more aware of sharing public spaces in positive ways. It was wonderful; the only downfall was the dog poop on the pavements and grates around the sidewalk trees - it was worse in Berlin than Paris. People assumed their responsibilities regarding dog behaviour in shared public spaces but they forgot them in terms of picking up the poop.

Possibly because all dogs need to be registered for DOG TAX in Germany. This tax is supposed to go to things like dog poop collection and other costs that may be caused by your dog. Sadly, I have never seen anyone collect dog poop because they were paid to do so despite growing up in Munich and only leaving there in 2006.

If I had to pay several hundred bucks a year in tax to own a dog, I'd damn well want someone to collect the dog poop in my area

Edited January 25, 2015 by BlackJaq

[Kirislin]

Statistically though, you or your child are more likely to be killed by a Shetland pony (or a cow) than by a dog so if you're really worried about protecting children, keep them away from pony rides.

This surprises me. Can you provide the evidence please. I am interested to see it.

http://www.ncis.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/FACT-SHEET-Animal-related-deaths-final.pdf

Horse, pony, donkey 77

Cow, bull, bovine 33

Dog 27

Kangaroo 18

You've been a bit unfair to poor little shetland ponies, giving them all the blame.

[Maddy]

Statistically though, you or your child are more likely to be killed by a Shetland pony (or a cow) than by a dog so if you're really worried about protecting children, keep them away from pony rides.

This surprises me. Can you provide the evidence please. I am interested to see it.

http://www.ncis.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/FACT-SHEET-Animal-related-deaths-final.pdf

Horse, pony, donkey 77

Cow, bull, bovine 33

Dog 27

Kangaroo 18

You've been a bit unfair to poor little shetland ponies, giving them all the blame.

I don't think I have. If young children are going to be around horses, ponies or donkeys, I'd guess it'd most likely be ponies. From seeing dog bite stats in NSW, there was an obvious correlation between number of dogs registered per shire and bites reported* (as you'd expect, really) and I think it'd be safe to assume that number of incidents with any animal will increase/decrease based on how many people are in contact with those animals.

Logic aside.. thug pony.

*To a certain extent, dog bite stats by breed correlate roughly with popularity of breed, also.

[Akayla]

When I got Jerry Lee I decided he was coming with me everywhere at least in the beginning. So he would hide in my bag (pretty funny considering he's a GSD). Everyday he would come with me when I'd drop my daughter to school and pick up. By 4 months or was getting a bit tricky so he had to walk. By 6 months people got "scared" so of course the principal asked me to stop bringing him (though SWF's were fine). I still walk him but hover just outside the limit for schools (and wave to the stupid principle). Long story short he is far, far better in public than most of my other dogs. He certainly seems to understand and have more patience with timid children than most dogs his age. I think having dogs with us really does make a big difference. Even if it's just running errands. I also made sure he was more of an inside dog. I started to question the attitude of dogs need huge amounts of time outside to exercise. My dogs want to be with me inside so why force them out? I believe we need to change as a country and become more excepting of dogs out in the community. They should be allowed in more public places.

[Akayla]

PS I was attacked by a rabbit too as a kid and he used to terrorize the cats. Although not because he was aggressive, he had other ideas about the cats :laugh:

[Kirislin]

I've seen rabbits attack too, and not just in Monty Python, I mean for real, they're scary!

[Dame Aussie]

Yeah, rabbits don't f*** around.

[HazyWal]

Statistically though, you or your child are more likely to be killed by a Shetland pony (or a cow) than by a dog so if you're really worried about protecting children, keep them away from pony rides.

This surprises me. Can you provide the evidence please. I am interested to see it.

http://www.ncis.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/FACT-SHEET-Animal-related-deaths-final.pdf

Horse, pony, donkey 77

Cow, bull, bovine 33

Dog 27

Kangaroo 18

You've been a bit unfair to poor little shetland ponies, giving them all the blame.

I've never met a nice Shetland pony in my life, evil little suckers that bite, run you under trees and into fences and when they finally get you off they run off bucking with glee basically flipping you the bird.

[Salukifan]

I've never met a nice Shetland pony in my life, evil little suckers that bite, run you under trees and into fences and when they finally get you off they run off bucking with glee basically flipping you the bird.

Gee I have. It's "small dog" syndrome transferred to horses. Blame the owners, not the ponies. Difficulty is with riding them, someone big enough to teach the good manners is too big to ride them. Different story for harness and in lead showing though.

Shetland ponies are smart and often too small for people to bother with teaching good manners. They need boundaries and to be treated as more than little four legged teddies.

Edited January 27, 2015 by Haredown Whippets

[HazyWal]

I've never met a nice Shetland pony in my life, evil little suckers that bite, run you under trees and into fences and when they finally get you off they run off bucking with glee basically flipping you the bird.

Gee I have. It's "small dog" syndrome transferred to horses. Blame the owners, not the ponies. Difficulty is with riding them, someone big enough to teach the good manners is too big to ride them. Different story for harness and in lead showing though.

Shetland ponies are smart and often too small for people to bother with teaching good manners. They need boundaries and to be treated as more than little four legged teddies.

Yeah like I said "I've" never met one, didn't say they didn't exist just my personal experience.

[Akayla]

PS I was attacked by a rabbit too as a kid and he used to terrorize the cats. Although not because he was aggressive, he had other ideas about the cats :laugh:

Yeah, rabbits don't f*** around.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Mrs Rusty Bucket]

I've met a sheltland from hell, and one that was perfectly nice as long as you were nice to it. So both kinds exist.

They are smart tho.

I guess a bit like chi of the horse world. Fierce and smart and clever

and will take their own way in everything if you let them (tho that's all dogs).

[Kirislin]

Yeah, rabbits don't f*** around.

Well, actually, they do, that's why there's so many of them. :laugh:

[dogbesotted]

http://www.smh.com.a...118-12st18.html

Canine specialist Bradley Griggs said all dogs had the potential to be aggressive

So tired of this pluralistic BS.

If a person commits an assault, we don't just shrug our shoulders and say "oh well, all people have the potential to be aggressive."

ALL dogs most definitely do NOT have the potential to be aggressive.

What we perceive as "aggression" (anthropomorphism) is a function of breeding, upbringing, and training.

Dogs that have been bred for security work, some forms of hunting, (and yes fighting) often have "aggressive" traits bred in.

Unfortunately dogs bred "wildly" or carelessly bred without regard to "temperament" may also have these traits.

It's like responding to a fatal white-pointer attack by saying "all fish have the potential to be aggressive."

No that would be like pointing to a dog attack and saying "All mammals have potential to be aggressive".

They do, whether or not a pigmy shrew would inflict severe injuries is another matter though. :laugh:

just try getting bitten by an antechinus or even a sugar glider................

the intention is death by a million piercings :)

H

Edited January 29, 2015 by dogbesotted