oakway Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I just thought it strange that a breeder would have ten to fifteen bitches in at the one time ?. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) Agree with others. Sounds dodgy except for cash only thing which in my limited experience is normal. Sounds quite cheap for a pedigree puppy too (depending on the breed). I think the OP sounds dodgy. How do we know he is telling the truth? How do you know they are lying? It's the internet, for all we know everyone is lying. They asked for advice, its been given. If they are lying what will they gain? Edited January 25, 2015 by LisaCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpette Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 SOUFF!!! :D I had the same reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 SOUFF!!! :D I had the same reaction. shhhh .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavis Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Agree with others. Sounds dodgy except for cash only thing which in my limited experience is normal. Sounds quite cheap for a pedigree puppy too (depending on the breed). I think the OP sounds dodgy. How do we know he is telling the truth? Of course we don't! We can only take posts on face value. We don't know the breeder so no harm has been done to anyone's reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florise Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I just thought it strange that a breeder would have ten to fifteen bitches in at the one time ?. :) And the OP was able to walk around and count all the litters...where is the OP BTW?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Id be interested to know the breed he bought. $800 does sound cheap - which could also be a red flag as to the integrity of the breeder. Edited because I haven't finished my coffee. Edited January 26, 2015 by Stressmagnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Anyone who thinks there aren't ANKC registered puppy farmers needs to wake up and smell the roses. No, it doesn't sound ideal. If the OP hasn't received pedigree papers he/she needs to contact Dogs NSW and Troy ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Anyone who thinks there aren't ANKC registered puppy farmers needs to wake up and smell the roses. No, it doesn't sound ideal. If the OP hasn't received pedigree papers he/she needs to contact Dogs NSW and Troy ASAP. I've heard some awful stories about so called reputable breeders who keep their show dogs confined in small cages in a darkened garage with no toys, or sounds, just dark and silence, and that's where they stay unless they're required to be shown or bred from. There's some dogs in miserable conditions but because they're fed and sheltered and their kennels are clean, there's not a damn thing to be done about it. Edited January 26, 2015 by Kirislin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 God kirislin that is just so very sad. Bloody disgusting too. I had no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirislin Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 God kirislin that is just so very sad. Bloody disgusting too. I had no idea I know. A friend went there and told me about what she saw. It's really upset her too. I keep thinking about those poor dogs, just existing.................... like prisoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm really struggling to get my head around that because you'd expect reg. breeders would be "ambassadors" in every way for their chosen breed. I'm surprised these poor dogs perform on their show outings when they are treated so poorly & kept like prisoners, left in the dark, isolated & confined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpette Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I just cannot comprehend keeping dogs like that. When I think of what my dogs have done this weekend: been to a market; out to Japanese for lunch: out to a country pub for lunch; visited a friend's house where they got endless massages; went up to a horse riding event as a fundraiser; got to play with fire fighters and the water from the hoses; cuddled on the couch and on the bed, I morn for the life that those dogs deserve, but will never get. That sort of treatment is more than criminal, it is immoral and abhorrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjelkier Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) I think it's also wise to point out that you only saw the dogs for a short period of time. I keep my guys locked up in my garage aka grooming room, in crates when people come over because I don't want them to get silly. They don't live in there, in fact they spend about 7% of their time in there, otherwise they're in the house with me. However if someone wanted to they could assume the dogs were kept this way 24/7. Papers also aren't always given at the time the puppy is. My current litter won't be getting their papers when they leave me, it's impossible to do so when we have to pick the show pups at eight weeks and some of the others are leaving the next day, which is also a weekend. They will however have them express posted when I receive them. Cash in hand, also not dodgy. I prefer it this way as do many other breeders I know. The receipt thing, well, you should have been given one. However, I've received a receipt for one of my dogs. Not one of the others ever came with one and none of the breeders are dodgy at all. From what I'e read I can't see that much dodgy going on here. The 10 to 15 litters would be a concern if there were actually that many and the price of $800 isn't that far fetched for certain common breeds. Edited January 26, 2015 by Bjelkier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunny1shine Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 3 pages of replies from one post by OP and no follow-up posts from them, no wonder forum communities get cynical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 3 pages of replies from one post by OP and no follow-up posts from them, no wonder forum communities get cynical! Yup. Musta been something we said. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I do not understand why if the OP thought they were purchasing from a less than ethical breeder and had doubts, they continued with the purchase. Makes no sense to me, in the end they were prepared to look past it and get the pup anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaCC Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 1422309238[/url]' post='6637832']I do not understand why if the OP thought they were purchasing from a less than ethical breeder and had doubts, they continued with the purchase. Makes no sense to me, in the end they were prepared to look past it and get the pup anyway. Same reason people buy the poor pups in dirty pet shop windows?Think they are helping that one pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biker girl Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I just cannot comprehend keeping dogs like that. When I think of what my dogs have done this weekend: been to a market; out to Japanese for lunch: out to a country pub for lunch; visited a friend's house where they got endless massages; went up to a horse riding event as a fundraiser; got to play with fire fighters and the water from the hoses; cuddled on the couch and on the bed, I morn for the life that those dogs deserve, but will never get. That sort of treatment is more than criminal, it is immoral and abhorrent. all for the sake of a ribbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florise Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I do not understand why if the OP thought they were purchasing from a less than ethical breeder and had doubts, they continued with the purchase. Makes no sense to me, in the end they were prepared to look past it and get the pup anyway. Probably because it is someone trolling. I doubt anyone buying from a breeder's property does so because they want to "help" the pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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