Shakti Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hi all....found the other thread fascinating and have been following up with lots of reading and videos etc. My question is Why train an emergency recall? If I have conditioned my dog to a Really Reliable Recall..why would I train an *ordinary* one as well? Ideally my dog would turn and come to me instantly with either one surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hi all....found the other thread fascinating and have been following up with lots of reading and videos etc. My question is Why train an emergency recall? If I have conditioned my dog to a Really Reliable Recall..why would I train an *ordinary* one as well? Ideally my dog would turn and come to me instantly with either one surely? My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megan_ Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I have a few recalls: The formal obedience one (run back super fast, line up directly in front of me, sit to attention - stiff body eyc ). I'd use this in trials if I ever actually went to one! I have my normal/emergency one (much like the one above, but the sit doesn't have to line up perfectly). Stay until released. Perfect for getting out of trouble or leaving the park as I put the leash on when he's in a sit. I also have a "check in " recall where he has to come back quickly (not at top speed) and get close without stopping or sitting. Perfect for getting him back near me if he strays too far. Why so many? Because I use them for different things . If I only had one it would become diluted because I wouldn't want to enforce strict obedience criteria every time I wanted him back to me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I do have a formal obedience recall. My other recall is first time, every time and at a flat gallop. It's something I continually strive to challenge and tighten with distractions so I would never say it's 100%. I called Zig off a wallaby a few nights ago. Nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankdog Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 The emergency is not a nice come here thing it's a just get over here as fast as you can. There's no sit or anything, it's not on the dogs name but on a sound you wouldn't normally make. Mines on a clicking sound, or was until the new neighbours used that for their dogs. Mines very much conditioned to be on the run and getting the heck out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think it's a bit like the emergency phone call vs the ordinary phone call I don't always want or need the emergency response... And different calls mean different things. One of my oldest recall not quite recall cues was "this way" as in - attention - I'm changing direction now... you might want to pay attention. And I had "come" for the obedience recall. And I've got a whole lot of recalls for get inside the back door. which mean slightly different things. Ie "in or out" or "shutting the door now" - it's her choice, but if she doesn't come at a steady plod - I'm going to shut the door before she gets there. Often she takes the extra outside time as a last minute toilet opportunity ie - she knows she's going to be in for a while so she'd better clear out what she can before she comes in. And then there's "cheese" or just opening the fridge door... which I can then pair with other commands like the emergency recall one. I don't really want her coming in the back door going flat out - because there's a few obstacles and a slippery floor. The main thing is - you want a clean cue that you start using after you've got the response you want, for the emergency recall and you don't poison it with ordinary or poor performance during the learning process. Ie you don't want a bit of "go sniff" and "evict the pigeons" on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I have a formal recall and an informal recall. Both mean I want you here now as fast as you can but with the formal recall I train for very straight close sits, the informal means I want you here fast but sitting doesn't matter as long as I can get my hand/s on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stressmagnet Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 *sigh* I just want a plain old ordinary 'get your ass here without exceptions' recall... Although his 'leave it' is stellar and I'm so proud of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I have an emergency stop rather than recall. From there I can recall, go to them or re-direct the direction they are going in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan3 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Because most people make a lot of mistakes with their every day recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I have an emergency stop rather than recall. From there I can recall, go to them or re-direct the direction they are going in. Kinf of off topic My MIL talks about having an emergency stop for her dogs back when my hubby was a kid. It was halt (i think) and it = do not move another inch. She credits it saving a human kids life one day when they nearly got hit by a car And it was the first thing she thought/yelled :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yes I will use a drop/sit at a distance. Invaluable if another dog looks like causing trouble. Just takes the heat out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) I have an emergency stop rather than recall. From there I can recall, go to them or re-direct the direction they are going in. Kinf of off topic My MIL talks about having an emergency stop for her dogs back when my hubby was a kid. It was halt (i think) and it = do not move another inch. She credits it saving a human kids life one day when they nearly got hit by a car And it was the first thing she thought/yelled :) I yelled stop, sit at my then bolting 2yo once. It worked admirably. The lady lookign on looked like she wasn't sure whether to be impressed or horrified! My Dobe had a particularly good instant down, then I redirected, so recall, stay, whatever. My Whippets don't as I have never taught it too them like I did to her. Edited May 1, 2015 by OSoSwift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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