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I've seen them used successfully - you have to do the right training and you have to have a dog that is not "collar smart". 

Personally - i think I'd rather not.  It does mean putting an electric collar on your dog and teaching them the "escape" method ie to escape the zap - you must come back here... I'm thinking if you can train that - you can train them not to nick off.  

It is possible  depending on the collar - for a frightened dog (eg thunderstorm) to blast through the fence pain and keep going and then the collar will be out of range - but they can't get back home cos they will be zapped returning.

The fence at the house I'm in at the moment is not secure if my dog decided to jump it - and she's trained to jump agility... So i don't leave her outside alone when I'm not home.  There are many reasons to keep a dog inside when you're not home... can't eat baits, and it's more of a deterrent to thieves, council can't take your dog...

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There is also the issue of not leaving the collar in place for more than 10 hrs at a time otherwise the dog can get skin necrosis sores from the electrodes rubbing the skin.

I used one about 20 yrs ago to deter fence jumping & fence fighting but I fully concur with the other posters re run thru.

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On 9/14/2017 at 2:14 PM, Mrs Rusty Bucket said:

I've seen them used successfully - you have to do the right training and you have to have a dog that is not "collar smart". 

Personally - i think I'd rather not.  It does mean putting an electric collar on your dog and teaching them the "escape" method ie to escape the zap - you must come back here... I'm thinking if you can train that - you can train them not to nick off.  

It is possible  depending on the collar - for a frightened dog (eg thunderstorm) to blast through the fence pain and keep going and then the collar will be out of range - but they can't get back home cos they will be zapped returning.

The fence at the house I'm in at the moment is not secure if my dog decided to jump it - and she's trained to jump agility... So i don't leave her outside alone when I'm not home.  There are many reasons to keep a dog inside when you're not home... can't eat baits, and it's more of a deterrent to thieves, council can't take your dog...

Thanks Mrs Rusty Bucket.

 

Our dogs are kept inside when we aren't home as we live on a farming property.  Unfortunately though when we are home they are able to roam free easily due to the farm fencing. Our main fears are wondering off too far and obtaining the neighbors baits or encountering snakes etc. Also out here Roos' are known to disembowel a dog.

Much to consider when  living out here with such a small breed.

 

Truly appreciate your feed back :)

 

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On 9/14/2017 at 3:12 PM, persephone said:

If this is to be your primary means of containment, then I would not suggest you try it.

Dogs can, and do run thru the zap when full of adrenaline.

We do have a farm fence around our house yard. Our Poms are pets and not kept in kennels as such so is very important we obtain a containment which works, is reliable and difficult to breach. Hence why I am seeking feed back. We are aiming at it being an aid in their training to stay within the house yard. Unfortunately our house yard is against a boundary fence to our neighbors. Another challenge to work through.

 

Thanks Persephone :)

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On 9/14/2017 at 6:24 PM, The Spotted Devil said:

I agree. I'm actually lead animal behaviour/welfare for a company that is commercialising virtual fencing for cattle. And it is SO much further advanced than the dog containment fences in terms of welfare. 

Interesting to know this. I will be sure to do my homework.

 

Thank you :)

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On 9/14/2017 at 8:29 PM, Jumabaar said:

In many states it is illegal to use a hidden fence without a solid fence as well to contain dogs. Mush safer to use a pen with a roof!!

Thanks Jumabaar.

We refuse to pen our dogs as they are pets and have chosen for them to run free in our  fenced yard. However if we feel the system is not for us then we will consider building something in which suits our dogs needs.

This fence I am inquiring about is used by a l business owner whom has Maremmas to protect their Free-range Chickens. She has highly recommended this particular system after doing her homework prior to purchasing and using. 

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On 9/14/2017 at 10:59 PM, Tempus Fugit said:

There is also the issue of not leaving the collar in place for more than 10 hrs at a time otherwise the dog can get skin necrosis sores from the electrodes rubbing the skin.

I used one about 20 yrs ago to deter fence jumping & fence fighting but I fully concur with the other posters re run thru.

Thanks for this feedback Tempus Fugit. Would only be in use of a weekend when we are home although unable to monitor them in the yard. They are housed whilst we are working and of a night with us within our home.

 

100% respect the opinions received so far, has given us more to consider and look into at this point :)

 

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Not sure how long your fence is, but I would have thought a much better option would be something like chicken wire,  bent so that you can bury part of it in the ground, and the rest going up the fence.   The Poms should not be able to get through or over or under that, and it would be so much kinder and safer.   It would also help to discourage snakes from coming in.   .. although they could still come over.

 

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On 9/19/2017 at 3:04 PM, Tassie said:

Not sure how long your fence is, but I would have thought a much better option would be something like chicken wire,  bent so that you can bury part of it in the ground, and the rest going up the fence.   The Poms should not be able to get through or over or under that, and it would be so much kinder and safer.   It would also help to discourage snakes from coming in.   .. although they could still come over.

 

Thanks Tassie. We have chosen not to go with the containment. In turn opting to work on improving our yard fencing and possibly adding the snake proof mesh.

 

Thanks all for your input, much appreciated

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