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asal   

Interesting,  explains a lot.  spotted on faceplant.

 

The SHG is in the UK but we get calls for help from around the world. We can not advise outside of England and Wales other than to tell people what we would suggest in this jurisdiction and refer them to those who might be able to help wherever they are. We run a mailing list for those in Australia, purely for information and for people to talk to each other. Seems to have mainly moved onto Facebook now.

It is important to watch what is happening in other jurisdictions because the AR people push where they see a weakness and if they make a legislative gain they will use it to try and get others to take it up too.

The people involved move from group to group and country to country. One of the most prolific RSPCA people in Australia moved there from the RSPCA in the UK. And took her prosecute everything attitude along with her. 

So it is important to know your enemy

Sorry if I misunderstood the original post. Sadly there have been many claims along those lines, generally put out by those who would like to see us shut down. We have to jump on them quickly because once they go viral the damage is done. Fair enough C H ?

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tdierikx   

You should see some of the crazy vegans that love to post nasty things about my boss's animals... who actually LOVE going out and meeting their adoring public. Wouldn't be much of a mobile petting zoo business if the animals didn't thrive on all the interactions they have... duhhh!

 

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tdierikx   

Had a look at the map thingo... thank dog my work isn't on it...

 

They do have the other petting zoo near us though, but only the location, no photos of anything or any real info. That facility is open to the public and we aren't, so that may be why we aren't on the map... we only do mobile.

 

Also there are a heck of a lot of other facilities in the area that aren't on the map... which is a good thing IMHO.

 

T.

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asal   

no sound for the first minute then it starts.  appalling. The saddest part this happened to my friend in 1995 yet this video is recent, nothing has improved in all those years..........  :-(

 

 

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Snook   

I'm not a fan of the RSPCA but Mark Aldridge is one of the most questionable people I've ever encountered when it comes to the truth, both in terms of flat out lies and also completely manipulating conversations and events to fit his own agenda. I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of that man's mouth after seeing his conduct in relation to Moorook Animal Shelter. 

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Here's another (current) one for you. This is bullshit. It is clear the dogs got like this under their owners care but apparently the RSPCA have no evidence! Do they want to just spend no money or do they want to protect all creatures great and small from being abused? Because without some kind of punishment these abusers will do this again!

 

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/he-s-so-ugly-he-s-cute-pup-marvin-found-malnourished-and-mutated-but-his-perth-owner-has-not-been-charged-20190123-p50t2j.html?fbclid=IwAR1BfRHNFQLWK9KVDBaeUYZYtmNgnw2194jJSCF4snMuw0jqFKr6NXWkTRc

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Snook   
57 minutes ago, Little Gifts said:

Here's another (current) one for you. This is bullshit. It is clear the dogs got like this under their owners care but apparently the RSPCA have no evidence! Do they want to just spend no money or do they want to protect all creatures great and small from being abused? Because without some kind of punishment these abusers will do this again!

 

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/he-s-so-ugly-he-s-cute-pup-marvin-found-malnourished-and-mutated-but-his-perth-owner-has-not-been-charged-20190123-p50t2j.html?fbclid=IwAR1BfRHNFQLWK9KVDBaeUYZYtmNgnw2194jJSCF4snMuw0jqFKr6NXWkTRc

Those poor, poor dogs. It soubds like the issue here as far as the RSPCA goes though, are the shitty animal welfare laws that they have to work within? 

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tdierikx   

Surely if they saw any of the dogs, it would have been relatively evident that something was amiss? RSPCA technically can enter if they suspect/ decide that an animal is being mistreated in any way. The only place they can't enter without a warrant is the dwelling itself.

 

So I'm calling bullsh!t on their excuse... grrr!

 

More likely they've figured that the owner is low income and they wouldn't make any money out of them...

 

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asal   
10 minutes ago, tdierikx said:

Surely if they saw any of the dogs, it would have been relatively evident that something was amiss? RSPCA technically can enter if they suspect/ decide that an animal is being mistreated in any way. The only place they can't enter without a warrant is the dwelling itself.

 

So I'm calling bullsh!t on their excuse... grrr!

 

More likely they've figured that the owner is low income and they wouldn't make any money out of them...

 

T.

I agree with you T

 

they move fast enough and enter and seize fast enough without anything visually wrong with the animal, including W.A.. Roxi included. surely that case has had years of airing.... they are good at tying their own hands when it suits to get enough public anger to demand greater powers and donations of course

 

its amazing how fast the cable ties or is it  handcuffs?   disappear when it suits them

 

As for the guy in the video, know nothing about him. spotted this this morning but thats exactly what they did to marion, took her horses charged her thousands for agisment, promised good homes (if she signed them over) would be found for them.  then sold them to the doggers 

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29 minutes ago, Snook said:

Those poor, poor dogs. It soubds like the issue here as far as the RSPCA goes though, are the shitty animal welfare laws that they have to work within? 

Having worked in statutory child protection where investigating notifications of abuse and neglect are the core business, if you attend the premises you see it through because there has to be enough concern to even raise a notification and whilst there might not be enough to intervene this visit, it starts a documented history that might end up being useful later. So to attend the premises and not even sight the dogs - well I'm calling bullshit on that. Those particular owners are allegedly known drug users or drug dealers so that also forms part of the history about their abilities to care for animals. I bet you if you looked at the property it would show signs of neglect/damage, which is also a reason to just double check and sight those 'well loved' dogs while you are there.

 

There was also that case on the Gold Coast last year where a person filmed a man standing behind his ute, punching the head and kicking the stomach of his staffy for being over excited (they were going to the beach). His partner had the other dog and didn't react to his beatings, which indicates to me that it was the norm. Anyway the RSPCA said that footage was not evidence of anything and they would not be following it up. The footage went viral on the internet and suddenly they decided to investigate. What a crock. Even if something doesn't end up as a prosecution that abusers details are on file for the future and those officers can inform them that treating an animal in that way is a punishable crime. That 'education' is an important part of the intervention system too.

 

When will they get the balance right? Go too hard on some cases and do f*** all in others? If malnourishment and medical neglect aren't grounds for doing 'something', what is?

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Snook   

Yeah, fair call LG. I think it's appalling what people can get away with when it comes to animals and when someone does eventually get prosecuted, the penalties are rubbish. The laws need to be significantly improved and the conduct and operation of the RSPCA is long overdue for a massive overhaul. 

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tdierikx   

The penalties are fiscal... and they are awarded to the RSPCA. So it could be followed that if the RSPCA don't think they can make that money, then prosecution isn't likely to happen...

 

That said, I'm 100% positive that those dogs, if seized by the RSPCA, would certainly not have been with us now... the worst one would have been destroyed virtually immediately...

 

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asal   

spotted on faceplant..... 

other councils have been told the same thing apparrently. The writer raises some interesting points too

 

"Making more enemies daily ... the rspca must surely reach saturation point soon!

"MARTY HERE

Beef Central recently wrote an article regarding the RSPCA. As some may know I am a councillor on the Mackay Regional Council. A few months ago the RSPCA who assist in activities relating to our pound approached us with the ultimatum that if we did not give them $300000 they would close in one month. They had tried a similar thing in townsville. I called the Mayor of townsville and She stated that we needed to tell them where to go as townsville had done. My council however did not ring townsvlle and despite my objections agreed. The Rspca stated that they left each branch to raise their own finance. I contend that surely if they were in trouble they would have known and let us know sooner and we could have investigated more thoroughly. As it is the Qld RSPCA has a 51 million dollar income and the organisation spends a considerable sum on activism. In their efforts to halt live export they are actually threatening the livelihoods of cattle producers in our area. They recorded a profit of 1.1 million dollars last year and yet would not fund their own branch instead they ask a council to use money taken from some of the very producers they are attacking to fund them.
It make me wonder also when you look at their allies in some of the campaigns they are involved in. They have clearly lost their focus and are NOT the organisation they portray in the public. 
There is more to this organisation that meets the eye of the good hearted but terribly niave members of the public that donate to them.
Just a question. If they could not be bothered tofund the mackay branch, what was that 1.1 million dollars profit spent on ?
Ps. the salaries they pay their executives makes interesting reading."   "

 

 

 

https://www.beefcentral.com/news/is-it-the-rspcas-role-to-help-flood-affected-livestock/?fbclid=IwAR0RIEP0jfZvrU1szGB4fbYEuYuecQiC2t9NXKqA3GLkOJo8FtbanDEILD0

 

 

 

read all the way to the bottom of the page, their yearly income is staggering.

 

remember all the volanteers who actually do ALL the kennel and cattery work for FREE!

 

 

 

 

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asal   

been asked to share.........

 

 

 

My heart is ACHING.

Is its aching for this darling older lady in SA who currently has the rspca hovering over her horses which they think she shouldn't have 

This situation glaringly shows how the rspca prefer to focus their attention on old ladies who live alone, people who are experiencing tough times, or people who may be vulnerable.. PLUS the animals are in great condition so they don't need anything done to them and will bring a good price when they are sold.

SECONDLY. My heart is ACHING for the starving horses in my previous post, that the rspca has refused to help.

Both lots of horses are in South Australia!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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asal   

Been asked to share, so awful.

 

shared a post to the group: Make the RSPCA Accountable to a 3rd Party.

22 hrs

I am reposting this as I feel that the public need to be made aware and it is in the public's interest to know. 
This appalling video that has been filmed by one of these teenage sociophaths was presented to Dr Liz Walker, CEO of RSPCA Victoria. Dr Walker refused to have inspectors investigate on the grounds that the person who submitted it had not seen it first hand. 
The video was later presented to 3AW and when Dr Walker was questioned about it, she made up one of her stories. 
RSPCA all over Australia have made negative comments about footage regarding horse racing, greyhounds and live export. This leads to several questions about why this footage can not be looked into. Is it because there is no money and T.V. cameras involved, or is it because the RSPCA Victoria inspectors do not have sufficient qualifications and training to investigate, or do they just not want to get involved.
I would like to bring to your attention that RSPCA survives on the public purse. They receive funds directly from the public in the way of donations and bequests. The other way is through state government funding to the inspectorate. In Victoria the inspectors that enforce Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act (POCTAA) do so as an Authorised Officer of the Minister, in this case Jaclyn Symes is the Minister for Agriculture. 
If you find the actions on the video unpalatable followed up by the lack of duty of care for the animals involved in this video, by Dr Liz Walker CEO of RSPCA could you please forward the video to Jaclyn Symes the Minister for Agriculture and the Shadow Mininster Peter Walsh. Please make it clear that the inspectors are Authorised Officers of the Minister. You may also like to mention that the offenders can be prosecuted under two acts in Victoria , POCTAA and the Domestic Animals Act. 
Peter Walsh email: 
[email protected] 
Jaclyn Symes email: [email protected]
Daniel Andrews, Premier email:[email protected]
Your State M.P.

 

https://www.facebook.com/casey.pauwels/videos/2480991685248908/

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/casey.pauwels/videos/2480991688582241/?t=4

 

 

Casey Pauwels

26 February at 20:22

Sharing again as the girls that did this were able to get on the the lady’s Facebook illegally and remove it themselves. Everyone please share again so it gets media attention so they’re held accountable.

These girls were asked to leave Arkys property and behaved this way in retaliation. 
By putting their dog on to Arkys beloved silkies.
They have sent numerous texts saying they’re going to kill her dogs & kicked her toy Pomeranian who is tiny and weighs no more than 3 kg.

Hearing the laughter and delight as the girls did this is haunting

Everyone please share again.
Lillico victoria

The girls names are Holly Williams & Sarah McNair 
Their profiles are posted below at the top of the comments

This chicken died as a result of this.

 

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RuralPug   

Not the first time that one of the state RSPCA's  took no action on a report and then suddenly become involved after media interest. Watch this space ....

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asal   

NIce, first they gag the press for how long so no one knows he was convicted, and now they are still saying he is innocent until the appeal is decided?

 

If it had been an animal he was accused of mistreating, his life would have been public property and guilty until proven innocent.

 

how on earth is a childs life destroyed less?

 

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-03/pell-case-needs-appeals-court-hearing-before-judgement-church/10865634

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RuralPug   

@asal did you mean to post that in this thread? Or are you comparing animal abuse laws with child abuse laws?

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