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Meaty bones and gas

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Snook   

Over the last several weeks I've been going through a process of working out what does and doesn't agree with Justice. He used to have a cast iron stomach but now that he's an old man, he seems to be a bit more sensitive. I've switched him off of kibble and on to Big Dog Wellness BARF Patties, which he's doing great on. I've figured out that lactose free yoghurt doesn't give him mild gas like regular yoghurt does, so have changed that too. 

 

I fed him just the Big Dog patties and sardines for a week, both to make sure the recommended feeding amount was right for him and doesn't cause weight gain (and it's spot on) and to see if he stopped asphyxiating me with his gas if he didn't have any meaty bones (turkey and lamb necks). We had a wonderful gas free week and I returned to feeding meaty bones tonight and gave him a lamb neck for dinner. He's been having bad gas again for the last hour or so and I can hear his little belly gurgling occasionally.

 

He absolutely loves his meaty bones and they're great for his teeth (he had a dental recently when he had to have an infected tooth removed, so has had any plaque etc scraped off, but his breath was starting to get a little bit unpleasant towards the end of the week with no bones, and in the past his breath has been much nicer the day after a bone, especially a lamb neck, so I know it makes a big difference) but I'm concerned that the gas means he's not digesting them properly and they may not be good for his gut any more. I'm also concerned that the gas may be uncomfortable for him. I'd love some advice from DOLers who know more than I do about this stuff. I've never really had to worry about it before because he could eat anything and everything except kangaroo when he was younger with no issues. Even a jar of coconut oil and a tub of butter that he stole and ate on separate occasions didn't upset his stomach at all (although the coconut oil created shimmery poos that looked like they'd come from a unicorn lol) , so this is all very new to me. 

 

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Rebanne   

Red meat/bones make my greys stink to high heaven! They still get them occasionally, usually when I know the weather is okay for them to sleep outside. Chicken does not have the same effect. Maybe try Justice on raw chicken or turkey? Mine have tried emu necks but they weren't fussed about them.

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Snook   

I'm going to try it in a couple of days to make sure but I'm pretty sure the Turkey necks were causing the same problem, as he was rotten after eating those as well, but at the time I wasn't sure if it was his kibble or not, since that was causing soft stools. I can certainly try chicken as well and see if that's the same though. 

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karen15   

My staffy used to be a killer. One particular day the cat and I were on the couch and this weapon of mass destruction, chemical warfare level fart strikes. The cat and I anxiously searched the ceiling waiting for oxygen masks to drop, like they do in plane emergencies. Alas, the house had not been fitted with the life saving devices. We only just survived!

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Snook   

My friend has suggested that Justice be accompanied by a gas mask when we visit, and to have some on standby at home at all times. :laugh:

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RuralPug   
9 hours ago, Snook said:

My friend has suggested that Justice be accompanied by a gas mask when we visit, and to have some on standby at home at all times. :laugh:

LOL! As they age I've found that some dogs don't digest certain fats so well anymore, and that's what produces gas. Dairy does it with most of the seniors I've known as well as raw fatty meat offcuts and bones.  Try lower fat meaty bones like roo leg bones or roo tail or almost any wild meat bones (rabbit, feral goat, feral deer etc.) You just can't get lean lamb or turkey LOL they are deliberately farmed to be high in fat. Sometimes you can be lucky with beef bones though (especially necks) and get fairly low fat ones.

I'm also told that other gas producers in the diet include soy and legumes. A bit of activated charcoal or probiotics in the diet is said to help these to be digested more thoroughly which lessens the toxic gas. Doesn't seem to help with the fatty bones though. 

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Snook   
5 hours ago, RuralPug said:

LOL! As they age I've found that some dogs don't digest certain fats so well anymore, and that's what produces gas. Dairy does it with most of the seniors I've known as well as raw fatty meat offcuts and bones.  Try lower fat meaty bones like roo leg bones or roo tail or almost any wild meat bones (rabbit, feral goat, feral deer etc.) You just can't get lean lamb or turkey LOL they are deliberately farmed to be high in fat. Sometimes you can be lucky with beef bones though (especially necks) and get fairly low fat ones.

I'm also told that other gas producers in the diet include soy and legumes. A bit of activated charcoal or probiotics in the diet is said to help these to be digested more thoroughly which lessens the toxic gas. Doesn't seem to help with the fatty bones though. 

Thanks so much for all of that. The lactose free yoghurt seems to be much better for his belly. Unfortunately roo is the only thing that's always been a problem for Justice and gives him diarrhoea but I'll look in to the other meats that you've suggested. It's interesting to know that it's likely the fat content of the lamb and Turkey necks, as I'd thought they were quite good choices because all of the excess fat is cut off of both of them, but perhaps they're not so great after all. I don't think there is any soy or legumes in his Big Dog (I'd have to double check) and if there are, he didn't react to it during the week of just the Big Dog and sardines, but I'll certainly keep what you said about them in mind if his diet changes again. 

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