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Messy Diagnosis & Treatment

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Snook   
49 minutes ago, sandgrubber said:

I cried help on our village Facebook group and got two offers.  It's hard to ask for help from strangers, but it's something us oldies gotta learn. 

Oh, that's wonderful! I'm so pleased that you did ask and have found people who can help. Please keep us updated with how Patty is going. Do you know yet when she's going for the ultrasound? 

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Tassie   

Good for you for asking for the help.   Fingers and paws crossed you can get some useful answers.

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Up and down.  She's not eating much... Boiled chicken in small amounts, not the rice I cooked with it.  She puked a big feed on chicken... so now she gets several little ones. The vet gave her diuretics, which have reduced the fluid in her belly, but it's clearly still there.  We talk to the vet tomorrow and maybe schedule the specialist visit.  The more I think about it and read, the more I conclude it's better to just go paleative and forget the specialist.  None of the possible diagnoses lead to cures... mostly it's supportive measures, some of them pretty gruesome, like draining the fluid buildup. 

On the positive side, Patty remains cheerful and despite her bad digestive system, acts pretty healthy. 

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Snook   
20 minutes ago, sandgrubber said:

Up and down.  She's not eating much... Boiled chicken in small amounts, not the rice I cooked with it.  She puked a big feed on chicken... so now she gets several little ones. The vet gave her diuretics, which have reduced the fluid in her belly, but it's clearly still there.  We talk to the vet tomorrow and maybe schedule the specialist visit.  The more I think about it and read, the more I conclude it's better to just go paleative and forget the specialist.  None of the possible diagnoses lead to cures... mostly it's supportive measures, some of them pretty gruesome, like draining the fluid buildup. 

On the positive side, Patty remains cheerful and despite her bad digestive system, acts pretty healthy. 

I'm glad that your darling girl is still in good spirits. Having to have the fluid drained regularly doesn't sound like much fun. Justice had to have a small area on his shoulder drained every two days by the vet, after having a mast cell tumour removed and the position of the wound meaning the drain that was inserted during surgery didn't work effectively. It was pretty awful and that was only for a couple of weeks. :(

 

Do you have any idea what palliative care might look like at this stage? Is there anything other than diuretics that can be done to address the fluid, beyond having it drained manually? 

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5 hours ago, Snook said:

 

Do you have any idea what palliative care might look like at this stage? Is there anything other than diuretics that can be done to address the fluid, beyond having it drained manually? 

Prednisone + diuretics is what one vet said. I don't know if prednisone will help with the fluid accumulation. If it comes to being so bloated that breathing is difficult and she seems miserable, I favor the green dream.  Of course death makes for heavy sadness, but there are worse options. 

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Snook   
22 minutes ago, sandgrubber said:

Prednisone + diuretics is what one vet said. I don't know if prednisone will help with the fluid accumulation. If it comes to being so bloated that breathing is difficult and she seems miserable, I favor the green dream.  Of course death makes for heavy sadness, but there are worse options. 

I hope that the combination can keep her comfortable and happy for as long as possible. I agree, there are certainly worse things than death, as devastating as that is to face. :kissbetter:

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Prednisone gives a boost, if nothing else, by increasing appetite.  A Labrador refusing food is a worry, and not eating for a few days must bring a dog down.  Patty is now gobbling down chicken necks (just learned that a local meat distributor sells them in 10 kg lots at a reasonable price) and her poos have firmed up.  At least I'm sleeping better. So hard to say whether she's improving or I'm deluding myself, and all indicators are that the prednisone improvement will be short lived.

To ward off false hope I've been digging a hole...hopefully not a grave... but useful for poo disposal if no miracle happens. 

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Tassie   

Didn't know whether to like that post or not, @sandgrubber … but it's definitely good that Patty is eating and poos are firming up.    Continuing best wishes to you and Patty.

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Snook   
4 hours ago, sandgrubber said:

Prednisone gives a boost, if nothing else, by increasing appetite.  A Labrador refusing food is a worry, and not eating for a few days must bring a dog down.  Patty is now gobbling down chicken necks (just learned that a local meat distributor sells them in 10 kg lots at a reasonable price) and her poos have firmed up.  At least I'm sleeping better. So hard to say whether she's improving or I'm deluding myself, and all indicators are that the prednisone improvement will be short lived.

To ward off false hope I've been digging a hole...hopefully not a grave... but useful for poo disposal if no miracle happens. 

It's good that her appetite and stools have improved, and that you're getting some sleep. Managing a sick dog when you're exhausted seems to make it all so much more stressful and difficult. I don't really know how to respond to the digging of the hole.. I get it but it breaks my heart. 

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