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Miniature poodle Vs Miniature schnauzer

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Selkie   

I will also say that my Standard is from Klabauter - Julia specifically breeds for dogs with family dog temperaments, and they are well socialised with her children from a young age.  I would certainly not want to mix children with a schnauzer that hadn't been socialised with kids as a puppy. My dog has very strong ideas about what is acceptable and what is not. As she's been socialised with kids, she enjoys the rowdiness. Kids screaming in the back yard tends to result in zoomies. If she hadn't been socialised with kids, then I think she'd likely be highly offended by the noise and activity.

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Dogsfevr   
20 hours ago, Cosmolo said:

Some may find this bizarre bit if you get a mini schnauzer, I’d look for a salt and pepper rather than a black. I have consistently found temperament differences between the colours with the blacks being much sharper and more reactive. 
 

Just my experience as a trainer!

Actually the Blacks are more loving & calmer can be more sooky .
Black n Silvers are vocal can be fiesty generally more not typical Mini (The other colours if derived from a B/S pedigree can be more toey like a B/S
Salt/ peppers same as Blacks
Whites different again .

Biggest issue with most owners today & we see it in the dogs we groom which is alot of Minis is the furbaby mentality & simply not treating them like dogs .
A Mini should be a very smart all round dog that succeeds highly in obedience trials & agility ,make amazing theraphy dogs but they are dogs a very functional working breed that is sharp as a tack when there meant to be ratters

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Cosmolo   

My experience with the colours has been different, even when dealing with them as newly adopted pups.

 

However, I of course don’t know the lineage so it could just be the individuals I’ve seen. I’m sure breeders have seen many many more than myself!  
 

I completely agree that they’re supposed to be smart and sharp! 

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Kazm   
On 24/08/2020 at 10:57 PM, Rascalmyshadow said:

Interesting you say your schnauzer isn’t tolerant, I have handled many in the 25 years I’ve been grooming and with a couple of exceptions they have all been tough tolerant little dogs and talking with their owners they were quite sociable as well.

My little schnauzer girl, tolerant, maybe, tough definitely,  but I call her and other schnauzers I have owned, very adaptable and just fall in with whatever’s going on around them. And my two little girls have been very much the little social butterflies and love everyone they meet.

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Kazm   
On 25/08/2020 at 8:48 PM, Cosmolo said:

Some may find this bizarre bit if you get a mini schnauzer, I’d look for a salt and pepper rather than a black. I have consistently found temperament differences between the colours with the blacks being much sharper and more reactive. 
 

Just my experience as a trainer!

I have owned both salt and pepper and black and silver minis. My salt and pepper was a male and he was definitely calmer than the 2 female black and silvers that I have owned but then my two black and silver girls have actually produced some pure black pups that have very placid natures. I would say it depends on the parents personalities. Just my opinion. 

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3 hours ago, Kazm said:

My little schnauzer girl, tolerant, maybe, tough definitely,  but I call her and other schnauzers I have owned, very adaptable and just fall in with whatever’s going on around them. And my two little girls have been very much the little social butterflies and love everyone they meet.

Yes that’s exactly how I have found them, adaptable is the right word.

Poodles on the other hand the opposite and often have no patience for young children or often even other people besides their owner.

 

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felix   

We had a mini poodle when our sons were growing up. Benji was following them everywhere doing everything with them. He was just great. Benji was such a brilliant little dog that our friends fell in love with him and got two poodles themselves.

Boys grew up and left and Benji was tragically killed by a much bigger dog. We now have another mini poodle, girl this time and she is great too. So friendly and smart, much more subtle in everything that Benji. We are thinking of getting another one as well.

Not much experience with schnauzers though. I don;t know how different are they between sizes, but I did grooming  in Europe ages ago, and some of the giant ones were somewhat scary. We had a terrier long time ago, and while we loved her to bits she was stubborn and sometimes aggressive towards other dogs. She was also destructive at times.

I hope this helps.

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felix   
On 8/28/2020 at 11:30 PM, Rascalmyshadow said:

 

Poodles on the other hand the opposite and often have no patience for young children or often even other people besides their owner.

 

I must say we have limited experience with poodles, owning or being in close contact with about 9-10 of them, but our experience with all of them was exactly opposite of this.

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Klm20   
9 hours ago, felix said:

We had a mini poodle when our sons were growing up. Benji was following them everywhere doing everything with them. He was just great. Benji was such a brilliant little dog that our friends fell in love with him and got two poodles themselves.

Boys grew up and left and Benji was tragically killed by a much bigger dog. We now have another mini poodle, girl this time and she is great too. So friendly and smart, much more subtle in everything that Benji. We are thinking of getting another one as well.

Not much experience with schnauzers though. I don;t know how different are they between sizes, but I did grooming  in Europe ages ago, and some of the giant ones were somewhat scary. We had a terrier long time ago, and while we loved her to bits she was stubborn and sometimes aggressive towards other dogs. She was also destructive at times.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for your reply.

 

I totally agree with you about the giant schnauzers, they definitely do look intimidating. :laugh:

 

I honestly think that both breeds are great dogs, which is what made my decision between the 2 so hard. (Hence my post on here) :laugh:

 

But I’ve finally made up my mind after many, many months that a miniature poodle is a good fit for myself and my family. 

 

Now I just have to find one, I think my name is down on just about every mini poodle breeder list there is. Lol! 

Very hard to find at at the moment due to covid, but it’ll be worth the wait when I eventually get one. :)

 

 

 

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On 11/09/2020 at 12:19 PM, felix said:

I must say we have limited experience with poodles, owning or being in close contact with about 9-10 of them, but our experience with all of them was exactly opposite of this.

I have owned, rescued and professionally groomed poodles for over 20 years (this is the first time I haven’t had one in the house since I was a teenager) in all three sizes, I have seen a few that have been great family dogs but the majority not suitable around very young kids, in fact out of any breed they have been the most common breed to bite their owners.

I took on a few rescues because of their behaviour around the families young kids and I have also rehomed my own for the same reason.


Good luck to the OP hopefully it works out for you but clearly you have not considered or acknowledged my post which gives the honest truth, they are a breed I adore and would love to own again but until my youngest daughter is a teenager I would never risk bringing another one into my house.

 

They are great dogs in the right environment and if I was so desperate to have one with a young child then a small standard would be the best choice.

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Klm20   
On 16/09/2020 at 1:54 PM, Rascalmyshadow said:

Good luck to the OP hopefully it works out for you but clearly you have not considered or acknowledged my post which gives the honest truth, they are a breed I adore and would love to own again but until my youngest daughter is a teenager I would never risk bringing another one into my house.

 

They are great dogs in the right environment and if I was so desperate to have one with a young child then a small standard would be the best choice.

I appreciate your advice and everyone else who has responded to my question, that’s exactly why I posted on here, to get honest answers from people that have either owned or know both breeds well like yourself.

i believe there is a risk with any dog that you bring into your home but I feel I’ve done my research as best I can, not by just posting on here, but speaking with both breeders and owners and gaining a lot of different perspectives, also preparing my son for the possible arrival of a pup/dog too. 

Thanks for the advice about the small standard, definitely something to consider. :)

 

 

 

 

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