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Hi all. I'm having a concern regarding my girl Zara.

 

> 1 year and 6 months old 

> Desexed

> Chihuahua x staffy

 

Has previously had a UTI back in February of this year. Did an ultrasound,saw bladder wall was thickened. Went on antibiotics cleared up. 

 

I've noticed her urinating a lot,I took her to the vet (thinking it was a UTI again) we did a urinalysis and there was no bacteria found,no crystals. However,the vet did find blood (which she thinks it's the method of getting the urine) extracting her bladder.  Had a feel up of the bladder with her hands and was told it's not thickened

 

Was given CystoPro and if that doesn't help, we'll need to do an ultrasound+ blood test. Vet thinks it could be stones. 

 

What do you folks think? I'm really nervous. I'm scared it's something like tcc.

 

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It’s understandable to be nervous and scared. Our dogs can be our whole heart and soul. All I can say is take one thing at a time as your vet works through diagnostics. I imagine there are many things far more likely to be the cause than cancer.

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If its stones it needs dealing with sooner than later ,remember whilst your nervous this isnt fun for the dog 
Get the ball rolling on what it may be & just deal with from there including diet assessment if stones .
Whether it is worse case or simple case the knowing will give you a path moving forward 

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did your vet prescribe Urimav?

Urimav 400mg (100 tablets) acts as a urinary acidifier for dogs and cats. Urimav is available in 100mg and 400mg tablets. Urinary acidifier for dogs and cats Each tablet contains Ammonium Chloride 400mg Aids in reduction of struvite crystalluria in dogs and cats

is your dog on a no-red-meat diet? chicken is ok but no fish!

This kibble can be helpful https://www.royalcanin.com/au/dogs/products/vet-products/urinary-so-dry

 

Also Vets All Natural complete mix plus cooked sweet potato or pumpkin

I find this Bell Farms Snap Frozen Winter Veggies 1kg cooked up and mixed with the chicken is good ($2.70)

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I wanted give an update. Tomorrow is the day. I have to drop Zara off tomorrow around 11 for her blood test+ultrasound w/ she has to be fasting. 

 

Will hopefully post back tomorrow with some good news.

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Another update: no abnormalities shown on ultrasound. Everything looks okay. Did find some thick bile inside of her gallbladder. Vet isn't worried. He'll be waiting for her blood test results before giving medication  Will be back for another ultrasound in 4-6 weeks to see what is going on with the bile.

 

Urination: he says that it's fine,just as long as she isn't urinating and getting dehydrated. 

 

They gave Zara a sedative but she's still a bit out of it still. Hasn't touched her food,if she's not better by tomorrow afternoon,I have to bring her in.

 

Thoughts/comments?

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I have to go see the vet at 2. I've been advised that she has high liver enzymes and the vet thinks it's due to the thick bile in the gallbladder 

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Liver enzymes are up and vet thinks due to the sludge in her gallbladder.

 

Ooh, also thinks it was caught in time (unsure if that's the case because he said there is a lot of sludge)

 

 

Claims it's common and his patients have recovered with medication. At first he wanted to do a wait and see approach but decided against it. No abnormalities on the ultrasound as stated yesterday (didn't mention anything about leaking)

 

Have to return in six weeks for another ultrasound+ blood test. If any symptoms arise,have to rush her back in. 

 

They don't do gallbladder surgery there,if it comes to that, we have to be referred to a specialist.

 

Medication he gave me:

 

Amoxyclav 250gr half in the morning and half at night

 

Ursofalk suspension 250ML one daily

 

Denosyl 250MG once daily (12 hours after the other medications)

 

 

 

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I'm late late to the party as always - but, the statement about no crystals but potential stones doesn't make any logical sense. The stones form from the crystals. Not important now as you have a different diagnoses - maybe. Glad to see you've got a vet who is working with you and you're really caring and looking out for her health.

 

Liver enzymes being up can be caused by a multitude of things though - including infection elsewhere in the body and coincidentally, kidney problems. Just something to keep in mind.

 

My last rescue bitch came to me after her second surgery in 12 months to remove a large stone. The Vet reported the last one being the size of a small mandarin and said she was dripping with pus when she came to them. :(  She was operated on (the owner had requested euthanasia as they could not afford the health care for her) and sent with owner permission to my rescue. She arrived still on antibiotics and a cd prescription diet.

 

Within weeks of her recovery, she was infected again and still forming crystals! An easy test for crystals is to have them wee on a newspaper and then let the newspaper dry. You'll see shiny bits on it if she is developing crystals again.

 

I believe that there is a thought that its a chicken and egg scenario with crystals and bladder infections. Do the crystals form because of the infection or do the crystals cause or assist the infection?

 

Long story short of my experience - we spoke at length with our vet. He recommended we put her under so they could take a sample directly from the bladder to help with isolating the precise bug if there was one - in her case there was. We then put her on long term antibiotics. From memory, I think she was prescribed a month long course and she remained on the CD diet for life.

 

We encouraged her to drink and flush her bladder to help prevent any crystals forming into stones, by draining liquid (and adding water where necessary) from food we were cooking (especially meat) and putting this in a jug in the fridge. I'd then heat it up during Winter. She also drank watery yoghurt.

 

She never, ever got a bladder infection again. Olivia was my last dog. She lived with only one functioning kidney due to her early years before she came to my rescue and she was never able to control her bladder when it was full. If someone knocked on the door and she got excited... she greeted a few guests at the door this way over the years. We hadn't planned to keep her but I'm glad we did. :heart:

 

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