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Gillian   

Do poodles need to be clipped?

I know someone with a poodle (still a puppy) and they brush him every day. But they said they have no intention of ever clipping him.

I dont know a lot about this so was just wondering - does anyone have a poodle that has never been clipped?

Cheers

Gillian

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I'm not 100% sure, but I thought the coat on poodles was similar to human hair and just keeps growing, hence the need to clip them, but I could be wrong.

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Dogsfevr   

Yep the coat keeps growing .If these owners intend not to clip then its very selfish on there behalf,probaly dont want to spend money on grooming & the dog pays the ultimate prive :rofl:

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lucyluv   

i have a miniture poodle i do clip her, i have let her coat grow in winter months its a lot of work. matts easily, grabs onto leaves and grass easily, when brushed hair fuzzes up. couldnt imagine not clipping ...would be a large commitment.

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Sivvy   

We will just say, they have no choice. They will clip her.

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Gillian   

the dog is an indoor dog - only goes out to toilet.

Either way they will at some stage have to clip him correct?

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lucyluv   
the dog is an indoor dog - only goes out to toilet.

Either way they will at some stage have to clip him correct?

would say yes...unless they want a big puff of wool on legs...hehe

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Are you saying the dog never goes for a walk??? Yes poodle hair will keep on growing - imagine what the poor dogs face will be like with a huge amount of hair on it . Leaving hair around the face ears and rear will be quite unhygenic - some dogs are unable to toilet if the hair around their bottom/penis or vulva becomes thick and matted. Hair under the eyes also needs to be removed and as poodles can be prone to ear problems having a clean face assists in air flow to the ears. During the period when the dog sheds its puppy coat (as it reaches maturity) the dog must be thoroughly combed DAILY to remove matts. Any coated dog can be left long but it is a HUGE effort to maintain the coat - ask anyone with a poodle in full show coat. There are a huge number of clips which can look very natural - hope your friends make the right choice for their dog. A breed that needs regular clipping has to become used to the procedure and failing to do this can result in a very stressfull experience for the dog (despite the patience and care of the groomer) - see the photo on this forum of the oodle that just required a clip off.

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Neither Poodles nor Bichons shed their coats and therefore clipping is essential, regardless of whether or not they brush regularly. If they have no intention of clipping then why purchase a breed that doesnt shed.

Quite honestly it would be totally CRUEL not to do so.

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Gillian   

thanks for the responses guys...

These people do care about the puppy a lot...

He does go for walks and they take him to the groomers every second week... they trim around the face, always do the ears... not sure about his rear end ( :thumbsup: )

His body though doesnt get clipped. He's still a puppy (about 4 months) so maybe his puppy coat is still managable. Probably when he's done with his puppy coat they will see that they will need to have him clipped.

I see the puppy almost twice a week and his fur is always well kept.

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If they have no intention of clipping his body, they will have no option but to cord his coat like a Puli's or simply cut it off in clumps leaving the dog looking moth eaten. No amount of brushing will stop the coat from matting resulting in pain for the dog.

Even the most dedicated of show people CANNOT maintain long coat without wrapping it.

They need to understand that non-shedding coats will matt at the root as old hair breaks off. If they think body clipping is cruel, they need to reconsider that view.

I've added a before and after on what an unclipped poodle can end up looking like. The dog in the picture had several KILOs of coat removed - imagine how hot and uncomfortable it would have been.

I've seen plenty of people who aim initially to keep their puppy clips going on adult dogs... they all change their minds.

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Gillian   

it's not that they think it's cruel to clip or anything like that - they just like the shaggy dog look...

like I said before, his coat is really well kept...

I've seen plenty of people who aim initially to keep their puppy clips going on adult dogs... they all change their minds.

do they change their minds after the the puppy looses its puppy coat?

also guys, just so everyone know, this puppy is in no danger whatsoever....

I know these people really well and if they feel the puppy will be under stress because of his coat, they will not think twice about having him clipped. I'm just asking these questions because I personally have never seen or heard of a poodle with a long coat.

Cheers

Gillian

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t-time   
they just like the shaggy dog look...

They got the wrong breed for shaggy dog :thumbsup: Should have looked at Tibetan Terriers :rofl:

In all seriousness, they will need to clip the dog. A coat on a pup of 4 months is nothing like a coat change, is nothing like a growing adult coat :rofl:

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Gillian, most people end up clipping the coat for the comfort of the dog and to lower coat maintenance. They do it before coat change which often doesn't occur until the dog is 12-18 months old. A long coated poodle in summer is a hot dog - maintaining the coat (especially unwrapped) if the dog has any kind of out door activity is time consuming. It picks up burrs and dirt very easily. The long hair knots at the base very quickly and you have to be THOROUGH to stop it matting. It also takes a loooong time to thoroughly brush dry a long coat - ask any poodle showie!

I've added a pic of a corded Dwarf poodle to give you an idea of how long coat can grow. This dog would have those cords bunched up when not being shown. It has had the hind end clipped in the traditional trim. It takes ages to thoroughly dry a corded coat - ask any Puli showie!!

Cording was the original method of keeping a poodle in long coat - before the advent of electric dryers and clippers it was far more common. These days its a rarity but still permitted in the ring.

Last Corded dog I saw here in Oz was a silver standard exhibited some years ago at Poodle Club of Victoria's show. If your friends want a long coated poodle they could consider a modified traditional trim like Scandanavian, Junior Lion or Continental which would give the dog a nice long jacket but keep the legs free of really longer hair.

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Gillian   
I've added a pic of a corded Dwarf poodle to give you an idea of how long coat can grow.

wow - never knew they could grow that long!!!!

If your friends want a long coated poodle they could consider a modified traditional trim like Scandanavian, Junior Lion or Continental which would give the dog a nice long jacket but keep the legs free of really longer hair.

Do you have any pictures poodle fan?

Thanks for the replies guys :thumbsup:

- Gillian

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Gillian   

thanks poodlefan - a very helpful website....

will show it to them when I go over

Cheers

Gillian

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Yep, you have to trim a poodle, it'd be cruel not to do so.

Perhaps there's some miscommunication?

Some people said to me not to "clip" when my poodle was a pup- that the coat should be "scissored" instead. I don't know if this is just an old wive's tale? Most breeders suggest getting your pup used to the clippers ASAP. It's in no way cruel or painful for the dog to be clipped. Clipping is less time-consuming than scissoring. Different clipper blade sizes leave a different length of fur.

One of the many great things about poodles is that you can keep their fur anyway that you like. I wouldn't blame them if by "clipped' they mean the run-of-the-mill pet clip- it tends to be short all over with rounded head and pompon on tail :thumbsup: .

Here's a link to some more poodle trims. http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?show...c=61432&hl=.

poodlefan's dogs look good, too, especially sporty Ted.

More fur= more work (brushing & combing).

Shaved face, feet, base of tail and scissorred legs and body looks good and is very practical (similar to the puppy trim). Shaved feet don't bring the dirt inside (much), face stays clean when eating, and no poo left at base of tail!

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