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As vaccinaited dogs do get Kennel cough and we are told it is a different strain to what is inocculaited for then perhaps the other dogs were vaccinaited. Some illnesses are contagious before symptoms appear and owners unwittingly spread it because they are unaware their dogs are unwell. I can't understand the person Knowingly taking their dog out with Kennel cough though and risking spreading it. I think I would have kicked them out of my shop and given them a lecture on being responsiable.

I had another one in here yesterday. Carrying a chihuahua cross and asking me what she could do for it. She had taken it to the vet a month ago and it still had it. I told her she would have to take the dog out of the shop as it was highly contagious and that she should take it back to the vet. She seemed a bit shocked. Maybe people just dont know how contagious it is.

Would my pup be at risk still of contracting Kennel Cough? How long would the virus remain in the atmosphere? I have heard that it wont survive without a host and particularly so in heat.

Kennel cough mutates.. immunity to one strain doesn't guarantee immunity to others

Kennel cough is transmitted directly from one dog to the other by air. I've never heard of it having a residual chance of transmission but a person who's touched a dog with the illness might pose a risk.

Parvovirus is a whole different ballgame. It can be transmitted on shoes, clothes etc.

There is no way I'd have a partially vaccinated dog in a workplace unless people disinfected their hands before touching her.

This is what I have been told by my Vet.

He says there is little point vaccinating your "average" pet againt KC as there are so many mutations. He recommends it for Dogs that frequent areas where large amounts of dogs attend such as at Shows or Obediance Clubs, trials, or Boarding Kennels etc.

My two adult dogs have just come down with kennel cough after exposure to two rescue pups who arrived with it. The pups were on antibiotics immediately and their coughing was quite minimal. However, my two adult dogs seem to have it worse then the pups had it, and strangely enough the dog who has been getting the C5 vax for several years has it worse then the dog who has only received the C4. The vet nurse said that it is just like the human flu vax - it doesn't cover all the strains so vaccinating for kennel cough is still no guarantee they wont get it as it is transmitted by various viruses and also bacteria.

When two of my vaccinaited dogs came down with Kennel cough years ago I dosed them and my unvaccinaited dog with Apple Cider vinegar approx every four hours. Seemed to reduce the kennel cough in the two affected dogs and the unvaccinaited dog never caught it, thankfully as he is old and has a bad heart.

Not sure if it was the ACV or just luck but as I always take ACV when I get a cold and it reduces the symtoms considerably I figured it was worth a try as it breaks down the phlem. I used a teaspoon of it for a small dog and a desserspoon worth for a 18kg dog syringed in.

Thats a good tip. I use ACV on my older dogs food for fleas. Will try it on the pup too.

As long as your pup has had vaccine for kennel cough you should have no problems.

Although, always remember there are many form of kennel cough and dog is usually only protected from the deadly ones.

She has only had a C3 at this stage.

I thought that they only got the KC vaccine on the third visit????

They can get it on the 2nd visit if requested, which my little one will be getting. C3 is standard for the first visit

As long as your pup has had vaccine for kennel cough you should have no problems.

Although, always remember there are many form of kennel cough and dog is usually only protected from the deadly ones.

She has only had a C3 at this stage.

I would be much more concerned about Parvo and wouldn't be bringing in a young puppy until he is fully vaccinated and even then I would be careful about exposing him. There are some nasty strains of Parvo around at the moment and it is more prevalent in summer.

I have a shop and I had a lady come in with her dog the other day. The dog coughed once and she told me it had Kennel Cough. She had got the dog from the RSPCA 4 months ago, and it had kennel cough then, but still coughed occasionally. I told her she needed to take it to a vet.

My problem is, that I have a 10 week old puppy, who I was wanting to bring to the shop on the odd day for socialisation with people. Now I don't feel that I can take the risk of her contracting it. In the two days since the lady was here, it has been extremely hot, and this morning I mopped out with a Hospital grade disinfectant.

Would my pup be at risk still of contracting Kennel Cough? How long would the virus remain in the atmosphere? I have heard that it wont survive without a host and particularly so in heat.

Does anyone have any ideas? I love bringing my dogs to work with me.

I agree with you, however, once they have had their second shot, they are past the critical socialisation period. Believe me, I am very careful with her. I bred her, and I have my Cert III. I have contacted the local vets who tell me there are no incidents of it at the moment. I wouldnt let her meet an unknown dog without first asking the owner if their dog was vaccinated. I am just concerned that I have done all I can do to iradicate any virus from the shop. As Kirty said, it is very unusual for Kennel Cough to hang around for 4 months, which just makes me think the dog has something else. It was an older dog. However, I want to take all precautions necessary. She has only been vaccinated for C3, which of course, doesnt cover Kennel Cough. Not that it stops them from getting it. She is a healthy little girl, and so is her brother, who is still to be sold. I dont want him to catch anything either, should she bring it home. At present, I am not taking her to the shop, but both of us are missing out on so much at this delicate age. I have searched the internet to see if the virus (if thats what it is) would still be there, but all I can find is the symptoms and treatment once they contract it. Another thought has just come to me too. Her mother got a mild dose of Kennel Cough while I was doing my Cert III even though she was immunised. It is possible that she is now immune to it and I wonder if she has passed that immunity on. Not that I would take that as any guarantee, just thinking lol

I've never heard of kennel cough lasting for 4 months? I'd be concerned it was something else.

My thoughts exactly

for Animal Options. All the staff seem to have a genuine caring interest in the animals they treat. Well worth the extra travel.

My old girl isn't out of the woods yet, but a positive start with Rowan at AO. A nice change from my local vet pratice.

Great news. When is your next appointment? Please keep us updated

I have a shop and I had a lady come in with her dog the other day. The dog coughed once and she told me it had Kennel Cough. She had got the dog from the RSPCA 4 months ago, and it had kennel cough then, but still coughed occasionally. I told her she needed to take it to a vet.

My problem is, that I have a 10 week old puppy, who I was wanting to bring to the shop on the odd day for socialisation with people. Now I don't feel that I can take the risk of her contracting it. In the two days since the lady was here, it has been extremely hot, and this morning I mopped out with a Hospital grade disinfectant.

Would my pup be at risk still of contracting Kennel Cough? How long would the virus remain in the atmosphere? I have heard that it wont survive without a host and particularly so in heat.

Does anyone have any ideas? I love bringing my dogs to work with me.

I started using it on my bitch about 6 months ago. She had a terrible flea allergy and nothing I did seemed to work. She had lost most of her coat, to the point where I wondered if she had mange. It turned her around! Her coat grew back, she stopped scratching and was looking great again. Then I wanted to put her in pup, so I had to stop using it. Backwards we went once more, with the pups dragging it out of her as well. The pups are now weaned, and she will be going back on it. I gave it to my other dog, who has a food allergy and her coat is looking heaps better too. I am a total convert. I have had no ill effects from it, but I do give it to them at their dinner time. They simply eat it out of my hand before their dinner.

Another question about Kennel Cough

I have a shop and I had a lady come in with her dog the other day. The dog coughed once and she told me it had Kennel Cough. She had got the dog from the RSPCA 4 months ago, and it had kennel cough then, but still coughed occasionally. I told her she needed to take it to a vet.

My problem is, that I have a 10 week old puppy, who I was wanting to bring to the shop on the odd day for socialisation with people. Now I dont feel that I can take the risk of her contracting it. In the two days since the lady was here, it has been extremely hot, and this morning I mopped out with a Hospital grade disinfectant.

Would my pup be at risk still of contracting Kennel Cough? How long would the virus remain in the atmosphere? I have heard that it wont survive without a host and particularly so in heat.

Does anyone have any ideas? I love bringing my dogs to work with me.

Did the ball show up on Xray??

How did your dog go?

You could try this company.

I found them a few years ago when my mother-in-law was importing her new Boston Terrier.

http://www.logans.com.au/temp-1647437541.php

"Dog Insurance – Including Greyhounds

Increasing values for breeding, show dogs and greyhounds means owners cannot afford to take the risk of losing their dog and not being able to replace them with a similar dog. In addition breeding dogs generate significant income which increases their value."

I recall the insurance policy costing around $300 - it covered the purchase price of the dog, the cost of the airfare/freight & all the AQUIS quarantine charges including the accommodation costs.

I know you're looking at this from a breeding perspective, however, they might just be worth a phone call.

Thanks for that. I will look it up.

The period up to 7 weeks is one of the Puppy Critical Periods. This is when they learn to be dogs with their litter mates. Puppies removed from the litter prior to 7 weeks tend to be nervous, are prone to barking and biting and are less responsive to discipline. As a breeder and I guess the reasoning behind keeping them til they are 8 weeks, makes the pups that much more confident and ready to face the big wide world. Personally, I think, that in that last week they really grow up a lot. Unfortunately, 8 weeks is the beginning of the fear imprint period, so it is really important for new owners to protect them as much as they can, from anything that is likely to leave a lasting impression, until they are 11 weeks. Once these Critical Puppy Periods have past, there is no going back, and situations that have affected them in this time, will stay with them for life.

If your girl is particularly bad between now and Mon, and you are stressed out, please PM as I have an appointment with Rowan on Tuesday at 10.30am (it is NOT vital) and am happy to switch appointments if the practice will allow us to do that.

How sweet of you! What a kind thing to do.

A person I work with is looking at getting their little poodle x bichon dog desexed.

The dog weighs under 10 kgs but they have been quoted some ridiculous prices for the procedure.

Can anyone recommend any good vets in the Wynnum area that has reasonably good pricing etc.

Thanks

The cheapest vet for desexing is Petvax in Underwood. It is only a 30 min drive from Wynnum. Their ph number is 3341-5437. I live in Wynnum, but go there for microchipping and vaccinations for my dogs.

Something else you can try, is Apple Cider Vinegar. Make up a spray 50/50 with water, and I also put it on my dogs food. My German Shepherds have 1 tbsp on their meal at night. It is supposed to be good for fleas, but may help with the mozzies. We are going through a very bad season for fleas at the moment. Might be worth a try as well as the good advice you have already had. I will certainly be giving Repel-x a try too. I have 7 puppies at home at the moment and I can identify with the picture you have up of yours. Moving forward can be very difficult without stepping on any lol. Beautiful pups you have there.

Definitely go see Dr Rowan Kilmarten at Animal Options - they are a holistic vet and a bit of a drive (I am northside too) but so thorough and SO worth the trip.

http://www.animaloptions.com.au/

I totally agree. I used to live in Burpengary, but took the trip to Rowan. He is worth his weight in gold. Not only is he a qualified vet, but also a chiropractor. I cant speak highly enough of him. I had a dog who was lame for 18 months. She was young admittedly, but after a couple of x-rays with no results, I took her to Rowan, and she BOUNCED out of there. I had forgotten what she had been like before. I also have a couple of friends who were going to put their dogs down because there didnt seem to be any good prognosis for their dogs. After a few visits to Rowan, they are back in work. One tracking and the other, high level obedience.

Thanks eveyone More chewing it is. I wasn't sure if thier little teeth could handle it yet. I used to feed whole raw eggs to my girl when she was a pup. She loved them, great fun for her, but we stopped giving them as we were worried that she might take a fox bait if she came across one, as farmers lay poison eggs around here. I would love to feed goats milk but am having trouble finding any, (they probably don't need to much milk now anyway.) I will try them with some unsoaked dry today, they have eaten mums before LOL

I prefer to add just a little bit of water. All biscuits have a certain amount of dust on them, even the expensive ones. The dust can cause the biscuits to stick in their throat. A little bit of water dampens it and makes it stay on the biscuit and not go dry down the throat.

Your bitch might not need a caesar next time, lots of bitches have normal births after having a caeser. Did they vet tell you your girl will need a caesar next time? Re the prog testing you need to start a bit earlier than 9 days as some bitches can be ready for mating then, each bitch is different and some are different every cycle. Bitches can be tricky. They also don't guarentee a succesful pregnancy, just makes the chances a lot more in your favour.

Had a scan on her last Monday, and they can only see 2 pups, so a Caesar again is looking very definite as the pups will be big, and I dont want to put her through having one stuck again. At least this time, I can get her done during the day and not as an emergency lol

Well, case is solved. She will be having a Caesar. I had her scanned last Monday and she is only carrying 2 puppies that they could see, so they are likely to be big. She is due on 23rd Dec, so I am not taking any chances either on an emergency Caesar, or putting her through getting a pup stuck again. I will book her in a day or two before she is due.

It certainly sounds like something lodged in the throat, and its causing pain to stop the dog eating. Definitely back to the vet to get it sorted.

Damn. She had to have an emergency Caesar last time and was trying to avoid the cost again. Andisa, I guess you had the same thing happen to you too. Ah well, better put some money away just in case

Animal Options are fantastic, however if you cant get down to them, perhaps give them a call and they may be able to suggest one up your way.

Does anyone know of an insurance company who will insure a brood bitch? The ones I have looked at specifically exclude pregnancy.

Unfortunately, when my girl had her pups, the first one got stuck and she had to have a Caesar. It was all a bit harrowing. This time, I am going to have Progesterone test done a couple of days before she is due, and if all is well, I will just book her in for a Caesar during the day.

Another thing I learned this mating, was to have a Progestone test done on the bitch to make sure she is at the right part of her cycle to mate - something I didnt do last time. If they are mated when the level is at the right place, they can have more puppies, and in my case that would be better, as last time she had 5 big pups, instead of maybe 7-8 smaller ones, and they may not have got stuck. It also ensures she actually falls pregnant. I mated my girl this time on day 12, although bitches are not the same, so maybe get a test done on day 9 of her cycle, then 48 hours later, so it can be judged where she is heading. They are only about $50-$60, which is worth it, as you know exactly when she is ready, and are not wasting a mating.

Your bitch might not need a caesar next time, lots of bitches have normal births after having a caeser. Did they vet tell you your girl will need a caesar next time? Re the prog testing you need to start a bit earlier than 9 days as some bitches can be ready for mating then, each bitch is different and some are different every cycle. Bitches can be tricky. They also don't guarentee a succesful pregnancy, just makes the chances a lot more in your favour.

Thanks for that Rebanne. The owner of the stud dog told me she was more than likely to need a Caesar this time. She has bred for a number of years, so I took her word for it. I will take her to the vet in a couple for weeks for a check up, and ask his opinion. You explained the prog testing better too. It was new to me and I was running off memory lol