Angelina
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Just awful. Poor lady.
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I have 2 dogs, and I love them dearly
but if they are capable of this type of aggression, I am sorry, its just not safe
Regardless, if I have them locked up or whatever.
I do not want to be responsible for the severe injury to a child like this.
sometimes, things happen, a child may not make the best judgement, but your dog should not react in that way. If it does, it should not be in suburbia.
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I actually think some of you are being quite mean to Matthew B.
he is only saying, what most of the general public are saying, after the death of a child ...
Instead of mocking him, or even when some of you aren't mocking him, you call his argments stupid, and say, "what don't you get... " quite aggressive...
You won't win your points this way ..
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Yep, I got bitten when I was 14 (I am now 47), but there was no warning at all
I was and remain a dog lover, and this dog, was well known to me,
I have no idea what set it off, I was patting him, down at his level, and all of sudden bam, just latched on my face
still have scars now, faded ...
so,yes, some dogs do give warnings, but not all, and some just do snap
who knows why
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well they haven't called it a purebred Pitbull, they have called it a Pitbull mastiff ... that indicates cross doesn't it
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Well
I have to say, if my child was killed in this way
I would want some consequences and change to happen
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sorry posted in wrong thread
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If I have missed any or if there are any on list that are wrong please comment.
Dogs that Kill in Australia
Aug 28,Tue, 2007 A two week old baby has died after being attacked by a family dog in Perth. Police were called to a home in the Perth suburb of Willetton around ten o'clock last night.
Police say the baby had been attacked by the family's Siberian Husky.
The baby later died in hospital.
March 17th, 2007 an American bulldog-Catahoula mix — attacked and killed Pamela Rushing. Pamela Rushing, 50, was found mauled to death in her backyard in the Forest of Friendswood subdivision. She died of multiple dog bites, according to a medical examiner’s report. Wieners said police believe Rushing was killed when she tried to intervene in a dogfight, although it is unclear which dog turned on her first, the chief said. At least one of the bites found on her body matched the teeth pattern of the retriever, reports show. Rushing died from multiple dog bites — primarily those of the bulldog, the chief said. Rushing had been dead for about four hours when police arrived. They weren’t sure whether two other family dogs also attacked her, a Golden Retriever and an Australian Shepherd,
February 3, 2006 Labrador X Dingo. Bunyip in eastern Victoria, 22 month old girl died after neck bite from by families Labrador X Dingo. It was at Bunyip in Victoria The Bunyip home where the 22-month-old girl was killed by a dingo-labrador cross. The 22-month-old girl was sleeping in her bedroom in Sanders Road, Garfield North, south-east of Melbourne, when the family dog, a labrador-dingo cross went into her bedroom and attacked her about 2.30am yesterday.
2006 July 22nd Three Pig-hunting dogs.Tyra Kuehne, 4, was mauled to death by dogs near her home in Warren in central New South Wales. NSW The young girl went missing from her family home in Warren, near Dubbo, and was found in a neighbouring yard on Wednesday night with fatal head, neck and torso injuries after being mauled by three Pig-hunting dogs. The 4 year old girl climbed two fences and was found dead in hunting dogs enclosure, leading to legislation change in NSW. THE fatal mauling of four-year-old Tyra Kuehne by three pig-hunting dogs in Warren, near Dubbo A FATAL dog attack on a child in New South Wales had forced Rosemary Withers to relive an horrific event in her family's past.
2005, DEC THU 29th, Dingo attacked toddler only a month after mum moved home
The tragedy of the two-year-old's death, on Tuesday in the South Coast town of Eden NSW.
2005 Crossbreed camp dogs Alice springs, 59 yo woman killed by Crossbreed camp dogs?
2004 Thursday 31st September Bull terrier and Kelpie crosses Mount Isa Police north-west community of Doomadgee following a fatal dog attack A 16-year-old boy was mauled to death when he took a shortcut through a relative's backyard early yesterday. He died later in the day in hospital. The three dogs, described as Bull terrier and Kelpie crosses, were put down this morning.
2003 May 11, Unknown Breed, The death of a baby girl killed by her teenage mother's dog moments after birth was a tragedy without blame, a coroner has found. A post-mortem exam found the baby, posthumously named Caitlyn, died from about 25 injuries consistent with dog bites. 14-year-old mother did not know she was pregnant before giving birth in the backyard of her Ballarat home early on May 11 last year.
2002 May 19 Boxer-crosses and one an Irish wolfhound-cross AN elderly man (Francesco Salerno 77 ) died after he was attacked by his own dog at a property at Richlands in Brisbane's west last night. The man, 77, was taken to Princess Alexandra Hospital but died soon after arrival. Police said the man's right arm was severely mauled and he lost a lot of blood. Police believe there were at least four dogs on the man's property in Government Road, Richlands, when the attack occurred around 4.30pm. Two of the dogs were believed to be Boxer-crosses and one an Irish wolfhound-cross.
2002, 31st October Great Dane-bull mastiff cross and a Bull mastiff cross The body of Rita Thompson, who was in her 70s, was found by police in late October two years ago at a home on Lyall Street in Bathurst. a Great Dane-bull mastiff cross and a Bull mastiff cross 31st October 2002 at her home at 33 Lyall Street, Gorman’s Hill, a suburb of Bathurst
The inquest into the death of an elderly Bathurst woman, who died after being attacked by dogs, begins today. The inquest is expected to last for two days and is hearing from a range of witnesses. The inquest will be held at Bathurst Courthouse.
2000 Herne Hill Crossbred dog - Victoria - elderly man bled to death after being bitten from crossbred dog obtained from "animal welfare shelter" and the dog was kept as guard dog.
2000 July 4 Malamute cross Mooroopna - Victoria -Malamute cross, killed 2 year old boy (Patrick Bloomfield) in bedroom. Origins "animal shelter".
1999 Feb 16 Rhodesian Ridgeback Cross Herne Hill The Victim of a Rhodesian Ridgeback Cross named Harley ( Leon Trasinski 75 Years old) died from a heart attack & blood loss.
Coroner ( Edwin Batt ) found Harlie’s owner ( Debra Susan Marks) Contributed to the death by keeping a vicious & aggressive dog in such a way that it could & would attack. Mrs Marks partner David Bruce purchased the dog Harley from the council pound in Transinski.
1998 Rottweilers and a Rottweiler-cross In a similar case in Western Australia, Giovanni Pacino, 35, was convicted of manslaughter in 1998 and sentenced to three years' jail - since overturned - after his Rottweilers and a Rottweiler-cross mauled 85-year-old Perina Chokolich to death in her garden.
1998 Nov 9 Cattle Dog and Great Dane cross Bull Terrier Grandmother at Charters Towers mauled to death after trying to stop dogfight. The two dogs involved were a Cattle Dog and Great Dane cross Bull Terrier. They were her pet dogs.
1997 April 16. Bull Mastiff X Great Dane, X Bull Terrier Meadow Heights 12 Years old Boy ( Jarrad Dwyer ) was mauled to death by a Bull Mastiff X Great Dane, X Bull Terrier in the back yard. Kimba was the family pet. Autopsy showed dog had a fractured skull from a blow with a ball hammer. Which was not reported in the (media).
1997 - Victoria - Unknown crossbred?
1995 December 27 Toowoomba Labrador cross with some Bull Breed Elderly Woman (B Stringer) visited friend’s house and was mauled to death by a Labrador cross with some Bull Breed in its ancestry. This dog was reported in the media initially as a Pit Bull Cross then changed to American Pit Bull Terrier. This is despite all relevant people clearly stating the above crossbreed.
1995-96 -South Australia Akita bit a drunken owner through an artery and he bled to death.
1995 June 7- Perth 3 Rottweilers & a Rottweiler cross GSD Elderly land lady ( Perina Chokolich age 85 ) killed and mauled beyond recognition in her vegetable garden. Dogs involved were 3 Rottweilers & a Rottweiler cross GSD Owned by Giovanni Pacino age 35.
Sep 15 1991 North Richmond Bull Terrier cross 55 Km North West of Sydney 2 month old boy mauled to death by a Bull Terrier cross
Late 80s In Adelaide 2 English Bull Terriers and their 2 pups a small child was killed at home by 2 English Bull Terriers and their 2 pups
1978 Wire Fox Terrier Killed 3 month old baby in pram - Victoria
In the 70s Wire Fox Terrier there was another death of a baby in Vic by a Wire Fox Terrier.
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I actually find this list interesting ...
the list posted earlier from the paper, was the last 5 years, so picks up from where this list leaves off
and it is showing more pitbull crosses involved in attacks in the last 5, then showing in your list.
Why?? is it because they are more widely owned... what do you think the reasons are
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Sorry, I just don't think the argument of its not a purebred Pit bull is helping your cause
they are being identified as pitbull crosses, to the general public they look like pitbulls, they seem to have pitbull in them...
yes, it is a mongrel, but that is not what the general public are hearing or seeing
they are not seeing a labrador cross killing a child, they are seeing a pitbull cross doing that,
It is about being factual. If it was a cross breed then it was not an APBT. Simple.
So now to eradicate cross breeds?
Isn't it factual though that a lot of these attacks, have Pitbull in the breed ....
the dog was identified as Rotweiller in one, if it was a labrador cross that would be factual ... it is a Pitbull cross, its factual
just because its not a purebred pitbull ... doesn't mean, you can argue, it wasn't a pitbull
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How do you do that?
yes, clearly it would more effective, but who makes that call on the wrong or right person to own a dog ?
By licensing owners, by enforcing EXISTING registration and desexing laws and by educating people about how to buy and raise dogs.
And by tossing the book hard at the head of anyone who fails to act responsibly as a dog owner. Starting now.
The "wrong" sort of owners can study up and pass a test
I agree with the enforcing EXISTING registration and desexing laws
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The community fear is being fueled by this very real,recent news item. I know that "banning dogs breeds doesn't stop dog attacks". Stopping dog attacks is a huge issue and you can't fix it in one step but you can make a step to stop people keeping the wrong type of dog. If the 30 year old male didn't have the dog, the little girl would be alive today. I am against BSL in theory, but I think when dogs start killing kids it is crisis time.
We can also make a step to stop the wrong kind of people having any dog. Frankly I think that would be far more effective, don't you?
How do you do that?
yes, clearly it would more effective, but who makes that call on the wrong or right person to own a dog ?
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Sorry, I just don't think the argument of its not a purebred Pit bull is helping your cause
they are being identified as pitbull crosses, to the general public they look like pitbulls, they seem to have pitbull in them...
yes, it is a mongrel, but that is not what the general public are hearing or seeing
they are not seeing a labrador cross killing a child, they are seeing a pitbull cross doing that,
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But they are putting these attacks up, which are pretty serious
and that is not helping
17 August 2011
A pit bull cross mauled a four-year-old girl to death and savaged attacked two of her relatives after it wandered into the youngster's family home in St Albans.
19 Feb 2011
A pit bull terrier was destroyed after biting a police officer's face on the New South Wales south coast town of Bomaderry.
13 Feb 2011
A young family was attacked by an American pit bull and an American Staffordshire Terrier in Hoppers Crossing, before a 23-year-old man was attacked by the same pair just a few doors down.
19 April 2010
A three-year-old girl was taken to hospital with serious injuries to her hip, abdomen and leg after being attacked playing in a neighbour's backyard in Taree, NSW.
23 March 2010
A 67-year-old grandmother had her arm savaged by her pit bull cross so badly it needed to be amputated.
23 Dec 2009
A 61-year-old man was attacked by two pit bulls in Albanvale, leading to six pit bull terriers being seized in Melbourne's west.
22 Oct 2009
A Torquay teenager was cut and bruised defending her Maltese Terrier from a pit bull-mastiff that set upon them on the beach.
18 Oct 2009
An American pit bull attacked a Reservoir man and the two dogs he was walking, savaging his hand, killing one dog and injuring the other. The pit bull was put down at the scene.
28 Dec 2007
A nine-week-old girl was dragged from her cot and mauled to death by a rottweiler in Pakenham.
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People do grasp it PF
but they are seeing statistics, and there has been incidents in Australia in the last couple of years, where these powerful sort of dogs, have severely injured and now killed someone
that is what they are grasping
yes, there can be all sorts of reasons for why they are doing it, but the simple fact is, these dogs, in the wrong hands, can cause far more damage then other breeds
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I do see the other side of the coin and thank you Bulldogforeva for your response, because it was balanced ...
and I realise that stats in the US, don't equate to here
but the news was showing terrible attacks from Australia in the last couple of years, and they are hard to defend.
I don't really know much about pit bulls, as in, not having come in contact with a lot, all I really know them is from Dog Whisperer, and I love them
I also do not want to see entire breed of any dogs banned, but I am just saying, people can't just discount the statistics...
anyhow, I don't know the answer, I guess it all comes to education, and strong ownership ... but I don't see that happening for a long time
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I am going to put my head on the chopping block
but I don't think, the blatant, defense of pitbulls, helps at all... or saying, all dogs can bite, etc, etc. why don't they put a fluffy dog up, blah, blah, blah... because even if a crazy maltese terrier got loose, and ran into my house, it is not going to kill me, or sever an arm... how do you counter these... I am just trying to play devils advocate.
A lot have discounted statistics, but clearly, there is something in those ... even even if they are only half true.
just seems people here, jump automatically to the dogs and the breeds defense, without acknowledging, their may be a problem
I don't think that helps
you shout down people who put statistics up, but then pull out the statistics that support your claim
I don't know what the answer, but sheer bloody mindness on either side of the argment is going to help
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But how do you even implement a ban on all Pitbull Crosses? Who decides which dog is a Pitbull cross and which is a Staffy or Amstaff cross? Or a Cane Corso cross?
You can't it is beyond impossible. Ridiculous.
Simple. Round up anything with a big head, smooth coat and weighing over 18kg that isn't ANKC registered and kill the lot. Anything red or brindle will be first in line.
And don't think it can't happen.
Exactly! does no one remember what happened in QLD??
Thousands of innocent dogs killed, because of the way someone thought they looked, THOUSANDS!
really, 1000's
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So you susggest we just ignore the high amount in the statistics???
just asking ...
can people really say, they are not more prone to attacking
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Look, I think the pitbull is a beautiful dog, with the right owner,
but can we really ignore, statistics totally like that .....
even the review of deaths in the SMH article, showing the amount of people involved in attacks in Australia in the last couple of years is disturbing..
Recent attacks by Pitbulls
MAY 2011
Darwin Accounting manager Peter Chilman, 53, had his left thigh savaged when a pitbull attacked him. The father-of-two was protecting his silky terrier and two school girls at a bus stop.
MARCH 2010
A 67-year-old woman had her arm nearly torn off by a pitbull cross she was looking after for her family in Victoria's far southwest.
The woman suffered severe injuries to both arms, the right was almost severed, and needed surgery. The Staffordshire pitbull cross was put down by police.
MARCH 2010
Kathy Bonic's arm was nearly severed after she was attacked by a pit bull-staffordshire cross in her regional Victorian flat.
FEBRUARY 2010
Sunshine Coast woman Maud Isaak, 84, was still recovering from her injuries almost a month after a terrifying mauling by two illegal pitbull dogs. One dog was shot by police at the scene, the second was put down after its owner signed it over to the local council. Ms Isaak had her leg partly chewed off and damage caused to one of her eyes.
OCTOBER 2009
Pitbull attack leaves a man in hospital and two dogs dead. In an unprovoked attack the animal killed one of the small dogs before setting on the other. When the owner attempted to his help his pets, the pitbull bit and latched on to his arm. Police and ambulance officers were unable to release the man from the dog's grasp for at least 20 minutes.The man suffered serious injuries to his hand and arm.
APRIL 2008
A seven-year-old Sydney girl was left in a serious but stable condition in hospital after being mauled by a pitbull cross-breed in her Blacktown backyard
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If you check out the following website, you'll see something quite remarkable. Who would have thought that pitbulls would be BY FAR the most prolific attacking dog!!!
Golden Retriever (all types) attacks: 10
Golden Retriever deaths (all types): 3 (incl. one from a rabid dog)
Golden Retriever maimings (all types): 6
Pitbull (all types) attacks: 1,392
Pitbull (all types) deaths: 137
Pitbull (all types) maimings: 734
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That was very interesting ....
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This is the link to the ABC story...perhaps the reporting is not so sensational
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-17/dog-kills-melbourne-toddler/2844178
Yes, seemed quite factual to me, no sensationalism in that story
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That is exactly right Anne...
I have been a dog owner for 15 years...
My old dog was a renowned escape artist ... we would think we had escaped proofed the house and yeard, and he would find another way out ....
he was so sneaky hahahaha
So it does happen .... might have been the first time, the dogs escaped.
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Look I understand that some of you have seen issues with RSPCA that has left you cyncial, unhappy. And, I do not take that away and actually keep that in mind when I see things about RSPCA.
However, a lot of you, as soon RSPCA appears in an article, you don't look for any merit at all... it is straight away RSPCA bashing...
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I thought the article worthwhile
A dog has killed a woman in Canberra ....
in In The News
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Wow that newslink. I just wonder why she kept this dog. It seemed to be very dangerous.
Bizarre