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  1. First of all, where can we find a reputable Apbt breeder? And reputable for what? Many different Apbt breeders reputable for different reasons. Many different bloodlines also reputable.

    A reputable breeder in the States limits you to to the ANKC breeders of AmStaffs and Staffies.

    For an explanation of what being a reputable breeder is I suggest you look on the ANKC and individual state bodies web sites.

    So what would you class as a reputable Apbt breeder?

    A. a breeder that line breeds game dogs? Has some proof of atleast 4 generations.

    or

    B. a BYB that breeds his more placid but "scatterbred" likely unpure pitbulls.

    im sure there are more options than just A and B

    and what do u mean by scatter bred like unpure pitbull. how can it be scatter bred and unpure at the same time.

    the whole question is stupid and shouldnt even be answered

  2. If you don't like them, fine. Ridiculing them on an open forum seems a little unfair to me. A bit like kicking them while they're down :laugh::(:heart:

    Alpha-bet

    Often high strung, fence climbers, fence biters.

    My dogs have never been fence biters, climbers and no they are not highly strung.

    You may have dealt with APBT/PB's that have done this, but do you honestly think they are all like this?

    What happened to individuality????

    Every PB or cross we owned or have encountered through the hunting fraternity have been very hard luggers (to the point they're too hard to get off).

    Amy h

    Your experience with them is hunting, what about family pets???

    Well, i'm not exactly kicking them while they're down - merely being practical in admitting that they aren't a dog for everyone, and shouldn't be promoted as such. Being the mother of a baby i wouldn't allow any of the dogs of any breed or purpose i've ever known to 'nanny' her.

    As far as the people i know that own dogs, i've been around exclusivley pet APBT and those used for hunting (which are family pets in the meantime), and have always found them defensive of their owners. Not aggressive, but definitely wary in the prescence of strangers.

    The reason APBT is bred into hunting dogs is their ability to hold.

    in relation to individuality - you defend the breed on the basis of your own dogs - what about other dogs? we can only base our experiences on dogs we have known. this may be the case for Alpha bet. For example, a dear friend of mine has been an electricity meter reader for 25 years - i would guarantee he would have had the most experience with dogs of anyone you could meet. His conclusions are the ones you have to watch are Border Collies, Cattledogs, Kelpies, then Malamutes, APBT and crossbred dogs. That said, real APBT and obvious crosses aren't as plentiful as these other breeds in the area he reads. This is a man that loves Bull breed dogs - but he will openly contest he always watches PB's with one eye open because in his words, you just can't trust them unattended. That combined with their strength ... you get the picture. These dogs need to be very very well socialised, well fenced because they are great jumpers, they do need to be protected from themselves.

    My point in saying that is they ARE a guardian breed, which is very loyal to their own family - and what does a guardian do?

    BSL is not right, but back to my original arguement - if they're not to be bred, sold, they are to be desexed and not imported, by the legislation, aren't you only shooting yourself in the foot by blatantly flaunting the law, through having dogs advertised for sale, breeding dogs?

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  3. Theres a guy near me who breeds amstaffs that he uses for pig hunting, pedigreed. He posts on ozziedoggers and is pretty well known as most amstaff breeders just breed for showdogs or to place in pet homes..

    I dont see much difference between an amstaff and a pit bull, people crap on aboput pitbulls being bred to be gladiators so dont make good hunting dogs, well select for what you get and you will eventually get it. its also written about in the AST breed extention as a traditional use.

    i think i know who u r talking about... was very glad to see someone making such moves with the AST. i was really happy

  4. peddlers thats all i have to say... anything more than 800 is ridiculous to me. i got my 2 patterdales terriers for 250 each.

    yeah, I'm sure they're health tested and the parents are very well looked after and recieve the best of health care...unless the breeder is taking one hell of a financial hit.

    thats just excuse to peddle. if they cant afford to.. get a job.

  5. England: Assembly member suggests adding breeds to ban

    Posted on November 2, 2009 by stopbsl.com

    London assembly member and deputy mayor for policing Kit Malthouse has written an editorial suggesting that the Dangerous Dog Act (which bans four types of dogs) has failed because not enough breeds/types of dogs are included.

    He points to the ?success? of Ontario?s breed ban (I am not sure where he got data that indicates Ontario?s ban has been successful, since everything I?ve seen has indicated the opposite) and believes that all ?bull breeds? and their derivatives need to be included in the UK?s ban. He specifically names the Bull Terrier and Staffordshire Bull Terrier in his editorial. It?s not clear whether he realizes that ?bull breed? derivatives also include breeds like the Boston Terrier, French Bulldog, and the Boxer.

    Read the editorial and see what you think Kit Malthouse is suggesting. Full editorial is here:

    Muzzles are not enough: Dogs are weapons

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/c...icle6898663.ece

    Contact information for Kit Malthouse:

    GLA

    City Hall

    The Queen?s Walk

    London SE1 2AA

    Telephone: 020 7983 4099

    Email: [email protected]

  6. are there any breeders who work their dogs in trailing tracking in a hunt constantly... i wouldnt mind getting one later in 2 or 3 years. would like one from working parents, because i think if they arent worked generation after generation then they might lose that great nose.

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