traciemc

Just another example of how fundamental religion is both stupid and dangerous.

I wish these idiots would drag themselves into the 21st century.

promoting starving in a thread about preventing cruelty? That's pretty funny, tracie, and pretty typical of the usual xenophobic islam bashing comments you come out with whenever you pop up, but I atleast agree with your comment that those who didnt take action earlier need to be held accountable.

What i find quite interesting that people are making spiteful comments about the Indonesians and what they do to animals but it wasnt that long ago that feral goat racing in Australia was regarded as great entertainment.

Comparing the Indonesians to animals are you Raz? Even I didn't do that....And you can always be counted on to act as an apologist for whatever outrage is perpetrated upon the innocents, either animal or human, under the name of islam. I find it very strange that you are so vocal on a forum that is dedicated to animals, yet you seem to take a perverse delight in defending those who are cruel to them.

There should be a total and permanent ban on all live animal exports to Asia and the Middle East.

Their treatment of animals is totally unacceptable, whether it is done under the guise of primitive religious

beliefs or just plain ignorance, laziness or stupidity.

So they won't have fresh meat for Ramadan? Boo hoo, starve.

The Indonesians don't like being told what to do? How about we immediately

cease the $300 million dollars in foreign aid we give them annually, and put the money toward animal welfare. Much better

spent, in my opinion.

It is wrong that our tax dollars go to a country which obviously holds us in such contempt.

The industry leaders who were aware of this going on and were complicit in its continuation need to be held accountable.

a man asked me one day if my frenchie was a cross between a chihuahua and a boxer - one little boy thought he was a cat!

My frenchie is on a raw diet, lamb mince, smashed chicken necks, tuna, with yoghurt, egg, cheese, vegies etc. Frenchies are also partial to fruit, and I give him chopped apple and banana occasionally. A couple of times a week he gets a good sized lamb offcut to chew on. I must say it's a pain in the ass sometimes having to make sure there is fresh food for him, but it's worth it.

He's never eaten dry food, and he can't tolerate tinned food now, the last time I gave him some, he threw it up on my lounge..

There was a rather spirited discussion on something similar in the news subforum a little while back. I agree with sandgrubber - either get involved to make some changes or at the very least, ring up your council and have a civilised chat.

The upshot of the story about the defendant in the news subforum was he lost, and had to pay Council's costs. Do you want to clog up the court list for a day only to risk receiving a hefty bill?Actually I've just had a look at your council website. Unless I'm going blind, there's absolutely nothing on there about where you can and cant take your dog. Might be an idea to ring them up and ask for the regulations just as a starting point.

God Raz, like a broken record....once again, EVERYONE has the right to go to court if they want to.

Under the local government act, all local councils have to do to make something enforceable is post a sign......whether that's no smoking, no alcohol, no dogs or any other arbitrary petty power play they feel like imposing on ratepayers. They don't have to have a good reason for it, they can do it just because they feel like it and maybe because some loser on the council has had a bad day, or a fight with his wife, or just doesn't like dogs...

Rotts rule!!!

Should people be able to walk down a country lane with an off-leash dog? Or should the fines still apply? For e.g. if I am visiting my friends in Cobbora, is it irresponsible to walk my three 12-year-old, small to middling, well-mannered dogs off-leash down the dirt road outside their house (and 100+ hectares) and if I am fined $330x3 should I defend the case?

If a responsible dog owner deems that no possible harm can be done by, or to, their very small dog on the rocks out of reach of any bather or anyone else on a beach ...

... we have such a different idea of dickhead it is quite amazing that we are even of the same species. We also have very different ideas about freedoms that are worth defending.

We also clearly have a very different notion of what enjoying dogs is all about - and here where I live, when beaches are E-M-P-T-Y, as they will be for hours on any weekday (and for days in winter), my boys and I will frolic and rejoice with any other of the many dog owners who also think stupid, stifling, ghastly laws that do no one but revenue any good should be shoved where the sun don't shine. And, yes, if I cop a fine I will fight it in court.

If rights aren't worth defending, some simple pleasures surely are.

Also, I despair of people blaming "irresponsible dog owners" all the time even when nothing has happened and less than bugger all (as in this instance) harm has been done. This person copped court costs that might have bought four rescues from Monika's. They think it's absurd, and so do I. But even more ridiculous is how Good dog owners are tails down, back in their box, whimpering and yelping "bad dog owner" and having their animals' liberties curtailed at every juncture - banned from beaches, parks, playgrounds, cafes and all the rest. Muzzles on. Jackboots on ... and down this road we go. But maybe leave the dog at home, just to be safe.

you tell em Hoff...it's astounding isn't it, how often some people on this, a DOG forum, are so quick to point the finger and patronise people who dare to take a stand against stupid, revenue raising dog related laws. And Raz, your example of speeding through 40 k zones is pretty specious - the laws regarding speed limits around schools actually serve a purpose, unlike the majority of dog related laws. It amazes me how many supposed dog lovers on here just accept more and more limits on their liberties to enjoy their dogs...and poke fun at people who say enough is enough.

"assholes that flaunt the law at every opportunity"?? You people kid yourselves if you think the laws are brought in for any reason but to raise money.

Dog owners are just another revenue base for local councils, and the sooner they do away with the whole corrupt lot of them, the better.

And Raz, if I got one of these stupid fines, you bet I would fight it in court - as is my democratic right to do. I'll take my turn behind all those AVO applications, people fighting speeding fines and all the other people "clogging up" the court system..

Good on em for fighting it. Too many stupid revenue raising laws, too many bone head council rangers who are just frustrated cops, far too many anti dog laws. Too many people who one assumes are pro dog who make fun of people like this and who just roll over when more and more anti dog laws are introduced.

Um - you dont fight the law or try to have the law changed by breaking it. If you're guilty - you're guilty full stop and they were. They had their dog on the beach - GUILTY AS CHARGED.

If it were that easy we would all be running around doing all manner of things we think shouldnt be in law.

Um - they were of the opinion that they weren't breaking the law, so they were fighting what was a wongful conviction in their opinion. They have every right to do this in a democracy. If you are happy Steve to lie down and cop every stupid revenue raising law greedy local councils can devise then more fool you. Councils just love people like you.

Well, I am not allowed to take my dog to work with me, but if I use your logic and carry it around all day, it won't be at work will it?

They didn't carry it around all day on the beach. It was outside, not inside a building. You can't use that as a logical argument.

Of course, she can.

Scratching my head here. What's so hard about grasping the concept? The dog was on the beach.

Even worse - the owner clogged up the court list with garbage. I'm convinced it's Barking Mad loonies.

They have every right to fight the fine in court - its part of our great democracy Raz....and what about the people who really waste police and court time, I seem to remember just recently a young muslim woman claimed the police pulled her headscarf off, and after a significant waste of police time and public money, it was proved she was lying through her teeth. Can't seem to remember your post complaining about that....

Good on em for fighting it. Too many stupid revenue raising laws, too many bone head council rangers who are just frustrated cops, far too many anti dog laws. Too many people who one assumes are pro dog who make fun of people like this and who just roll over when more and more anti dog laws are introduced.

Maybe he should have the same done to him? I don't think he'd ever do it again after that

Normally I'd write a fairly long post pointing out the hypocrisy of posts like this but.. it's Sunday so you'll have to settle for this -->

Added to the Dol Lynch mob list of potential punishments.. (all real suggestions taken from posts in this section of the forum)

• Drown as babies to prevent them from growing up into little monsters
  
• Burn penises off.
  
• Violently murder and then sexually mutilate the body.
  
• Secure a condom on the criminal, leaving it in place until a lethal infection is caused.
  

Ho hum, here we go again, Hardy getting on his/her high horse - suggestions are all they are, motivated by disgust at the actions of some low life. These things were actually done by someone to animals and other people at some stage. How about directing your righteous indignation toward the real perpetrators?

So sorry to hear this happened to Sid, what a terrible thing for you all.

Huey sends his love and healing frenchy vibes for a quick recovery

10 kilos would be too thin, in my opinion. My Huey is 13 kilos and he's just perfect!

I have a 50 kilo rott and a 13 kilo frenchie. They fight only occasionally, and the frenchie will ALWAYS start it, usually over a toy he wants or if he thinks the rott is getting too much attention - there's lots of terrible snarling but never any injuries, the rott will pin him down with one foot until he stops carrying on, it's really funny to see. I have them separated during the day when I'm at work, but they are together at other times.

Abrham

Appollo

Archie

Armand

Bailey x 3

Balou

Bandit

Banjo

Bardigrub

Bart

Barton

Baxter

Bear x2

Benji

Benny

Benson

Bertie

Billy

Bing

Bluey

Boney

Boss

Boxer

Brady

Brock

Brockie

Brody

Bronson

Bruce

Bud

Bundy

Caleb

Caramel

Carl

Cash

Champ

Charlie x 4

Chevy

Chip

Coco

Cobber

Connor

Cooper x 2

Cowan x 2

Cuba

Dakota

Danny

Darcy x 3

Dashx2

Deakin

Dean

Declan

Delgado

Diablo

Diesel

Digby

Digger

Dinky

Douglas

Drifter

Dumas

Dylan

Ebon

Eddie

Elijah

Elliott

Edge

Esky

FlashBazil

Frank

Franky J Holden

Gandor

Greedy

Gus

Hail

Harley

Harrison

Henry

Hudson

Huey

Hugo

Ivan

Jack x 1

Jake

Jasper x 2

JayDee

Jethro

Jett

Joe

Jonty

Jordan

Joshua

Judd

Juggie

Kahn

Kaiser

Kasper

Kaos

Kiba

Kei

Kippy

Kisho

Kyzer

Leroy

Lestat

Logan

Luca

Lughie

Lukas

MacKenzie

Max x 3

Maxie

Mel

Merlot

Merry

Milky

Milosh

Minook

Mistral

Mogwai

Mr Darcy

Mungo

Murray

Nammu

Napoleon

Nelson

Nigel

Nipper

Noah

Nova

Nudge

Nugget

Odin

Ollie

Onslow

Oscar

Oz

Payton

Piikki

Porsha

Punch

Quick

Raffy

Ralph

Rambo

Randy

Reeve

Rex x 2

Riku

Riley

Ripley

Roary

Rocks

Rolly

Rookie

Rory

Rove

Rover

Roy Jones Jnr

Ruff

Ryan

Rupert

Rusty x2

Sam

Scout

Scrap

Scratch

Shadow x2

Shaker

Silas

Snitch

Sonny

Speed

Spencer x 2

Spike x 2

Sport

Spud

Stanley

Sterling

Storm

Sully

Swanky

Tazz x 2

Ted

Teddy

Tey Dog

Theo

Thunder

Tiger

Tirra

Toby

Trip

Tub

Tusca

Tye

Tyson

Ulf

Wade

Wags

Walker

Walter

Watson

Weave

Will

Willy

Woody

Zac

Zedley

Zephyr

Zeus

What a fantastic ending to this sad story, and what a beautiful photo that third one is. Made me cry.

I'm glad I live where I do. Not many moslems up this way,(yet) so I don't have to deal with their offensive beliefs.

lol.

''Moslems''

Them Moslems been dun tryna take ma land with their beards and dates. Cornsarnit!

Can be spelt that way as well - just a variant. Pretty poor attempt at humour if all you can find to have a go at is my spelling...

Just telling it like it is Crisovar, at least I don't pretend to be something I'm not.

I'm glad I live where I do. Not many moslems up this way,(yet) so I don't have to deal with their offensive beliefs.

I feed my frenchie chicken necks regularly, tho I do cut them up and smash them with a meat tenderiser. He also gets lamb offcuts. He is quite a dainty eater, not a gulper, I think that is more of a danger than the breed of dog.

So sad to hear this, best wishes to Jed and her family, RIP lost furbabies, thinking of you all

Another French Bulldog

Griffon Bruxellois (rough)

Bull mastiff

Boxer

Tibetan spaniel

Mini Bull Terrier

Boston Terrier

Bernese Mountain Dog

St Bernard

And in my dreams:

Beauceron

When I had to have my big rescue rott boy put put to sleep, he had inoperable stomach cancer, I sat on the floor with his beautiful head in my lap and talked him into his final sleep. I wanted my face and my voice to be the last thing he saw and heard, and I think it helped us both.

I take my dogs to outdoor cafes all the time. Last week I drove from Sydney to Coffs Harbour and it was a pleasant surprise to see all McDonalds, KFCs etc allowing us to sit in their outdoor area with our dogs. I hope NSW laws don't ban dogs from outdoor cafes.

Newcastle council has banned dogs from outdoor cafes - it's ok to sit 3 feet from traffic belching fumes all over you and the food, and the scavenging birds crapping everywhere but it's not ok to sit there with a dog... When the pinheads on local councils have these great ideas, all they have to do to make it enforceable is post a sign....

These idiots need to be kicked to the kerb and local councils disbanded before they totally destroy our quality of life and our ability to enjoy our pets as we see fit.

Just saw an ad for it - on tomorrow night