Sue & Rotts

I just "volunteered" (!) to prepare a catalogue for each of the two days of our Kennel Club's next shows. I have plenty of experience though, I've read catalogues.

Can anyone help me with suggestions on software I can use to download the OzEntries entries in comma delimited form and drop it directly into a catalogue? (Computers are not my problem, I just need help with cataloguing.)

I would be very grateful for any suggestions as to what software to use and where to get it.

many cats are aloof too - does that mean you want them changed too as otherwise they could become killers any minute. Aloof does not equal killer, and whilst I am not a breeder by any means, I would never interpret aloof to mean that, nor that it is likely to be aggressive at any minute - we had a lab that was the friendliest thing out, but touch my MIL car whilst she was inside it and my MIL was out of it (as would often be the case when you went to the servos where they used to come and fill up for you in the good old days) and she would certainly be all teeth and bark and snarl at the attendant from inside the car - does that mean we should also ban labradors?

I give up - life's too short; AND 'aloof' was only an example!

A standard is not what causes a breed to be restricted, so I also do not understand the point.

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Did you miss the bit about "not given to indiscriminate friendships?" The point is, that if I DARE to suggest that it is unnecessary for our dogs to be stand-offish, I get shouted down by those quoting the breed standard!

Hi Sue,

If you are referring to Rottwieller's, they are a working dog of a guardian breed and the stand offish one's are probably the one's with the most authenticity and alliance with the breed standards. Without sounding patronising, why have a guardian breed then complain because it has the genetics to do it's job???. A dog of a guardian breed that hasn't the genetics for that job, isn't a correct example of the breed although it may be more socially preferred, the dog is actually a dud.

Aloofness isn't aggression and hostility, it's the dog not trusting the stranger at that point with the sharpness to react if the meeting turned pear shape. A seemingly friendly stranger may be someone who intends to grab your handbag and an aloof dog will be ready for any misadventure. Aloofness and sharpness is a great basic trait for a dog to successfully be trained in protection where your Rotties, GSD's, Belgian Malinios, Dobie's excel in that working role.

People who buy guardian breeds should be prepared for the likelyhood of protective genetics surfacing and learn how to handle and train them for acceptable social behaviour. I don't think that people should try and breed out protective genetics from these breeds without impeccable knowledge of what they need to achieve when playing with nerve strength and hardness which can backfire to create unpredictable fear aggression being the make up of some truly dangerous dogs. Plenty of other breeds who are licky monsters and everyone's friend to chose from

I currently have my 23rd and 24th Rottweilers; one is friendly to all - people and dogs - but is a quite fierce guard of us and ours. The other day I had a fall and she would not let a neighbour help me (initially) stood over me and guarded me; a 'drop-stay' fixed that.

My other dog is 'aloof' and 'not given to indiscriminate friendships' - really, she shows often that she is SCARED. Guess which one I will breed from?

Ummm because " aloof" does not mean aggressive. The word "aloof" is found in the breed standard of dogs such as the Afghan, Basenji and the RR, none of which are currently "restricted" or look like being added to the list, as they are ANKC recognised breeds.

and the point of your post was ?

It doesn't mean friendly either. Do we have some objection to friendly dogs in some breeds?

A standard is not what causes a breed to be restricted, so I also do not understand the point.

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Did you miss the bit about "not given to indiscriminate friendships?" The point is, that if I DARE to suggest that it is unnecessary for our dogs to be stand-offish, I get shouted down by those quoting the breed standard!

Why don't Dogs NSW just go through the breed standards looking for phrases such as 'aloof' or 'not given to indiscriminate friendships' and replacing them with something more socially acceptable in today's world?

Like 'NOT aggressive to well meaning strangers, however may be uninterested in casual contact". :D

They're the dog writers, not me - but it all starts with the breed standards and some support for the breeders who want to adapt their breed to modern Australian society would be really welcome? I don't want to alter the essential nature of my breed, just weed out the ones who are not receptive to strangers who mean no harm.