sydking

you like poodles, we like pitbulls, end of story.

thats pretty much what it balls down to, well put

Rhaps:

Many people want actual working dogs. Not ones that are just bred to look pretty.

Really? What sort of work do they want them to do in your average suburban neighbourhood?

What sort of work will the dog of an 18 year old guy living at home, who needed his parents permission to get a dog, need to perform? Do you think someone in that situation, who doesn't have fencing secure enough to contain a "working dog" is the kind of owner the breed needs to move ahead?

Personally I think the fact that the breed IS banned is what attracts a certain type of buyer.. the "oh wow, I've got a dog so dangerous its illegal to own one" brigade. All the more reason to ditch BSL.

who are you to state that im 18? dont state my age if you DONT know it.

haha

sydking I really do feel you are a cracker short of a firework display.

A dog is not for Christmas.

A dog is not for status symbol.

A dog is a loyal companion who dotes on your every being. They love nothing better than going for walks with you, going to the beach, chasing a ball and being with you on any outing.

By having a restricted breed you are limiting this dogs ability to be involved. I suggest you do as poodlefan suggested suck it up and be responsible.

Oh and make sure she is desexed.

who sed i got if for xmas? who sed its a status symbol? who says i dont walk it?

by the sounds of things your more than a cracker short of a fire work.

Ive fed raw for at least one meal per day since i got my pup. never feed raw and kibble at the same time because i heard they digest at different rates.

ive noticed a few people talking about feeding chicken mince, is this chicken frame mince? if so i brought a kilo the other day and will be feeding it as soon as the beef mince runs out.

what other raw would be suggested for a puppy?? would liver and kidneys be to rich for now

So should sydking dump the dog? since he's stuffed and all.

no he should get money together and abide by the law for the dogs sake. Socialise it, obedience train it and make it a model citizen.

Not hide it, falsify its breeding and chain it in the backyard so it cant jump the fence.

well by not hiding it it will be a restricted breed, therefor caged all day ( even tho one of my first option but have looked into it more and will not be doing it) and when out of cage, muzled and can never be of the leash. And the leash can not be held by someone younger than 18.

I'd be interested in seeing a photo of this dog. Can you post any up for us to have a look?

If the parents are not registered (have no papers) then you cant get them for your pup

ETS Are your talking about registered as in pedigree regsitration papers or ones with local council?

just a council regestration, on the NSW website i just checked it sed i need the microchip form and thats pretty much it, i always thought i needed to have the perants forms but that must be for a pedigree regestration only.

Once a dog is registered as a certian breed can it be disputed later on? and on what grounds can i fight it?

I just explained in the other thread that you can chip and register your dog as any breed or cross that you believe it to be. This will not however prevent your dog from coming under ranger scrutiny.

Things are getting tougher in NSW and with the latest attack and death they are set to get a lot worse.

Be aware that any ranger anywhere in NSW can stop you whilst in public ( or come to your home ) and issue you with an Notice Of Intent to declare your dog to be of a restricted breed.

Your avenue of appeal is via a breed assessor. They are mostly Dogs NSW judges, who will assess your dog , at your expense. If you take this option, there is NO means of appeal if they consider your dog to be a Pit Bull or a cross bred Pit.

If breed assessed as an APBT, the chip details will be changed and you will be required to comply with the child proof enclosure, muzzle and leash requirements.

If ruled a restricted breed cross, you can they at your own expense have your dog temperament assessed ( by DGL approved list of assessors ), if it passes it can live as per a normal dog. Fail TT and it's the enclosure , muzzle and leash for the rest of it's life.

So in a nutshell you can do what you like, but if you walk your dog on the street or a neighbour dobs you in for having a restricted breed, it's in the hands or essentially one person to decide you dogs fate, unless you have an aweful lot of money to chuck around and go to court.

If you purchase any bull breed or cross without ANKC registration papers, you could well find yourself appealing an NOI , all at your costs.

thanks, so to cut thing shots, im stuffed?

i would keep her indise but not my house therfore not my rules, it took my long enough to convince my perants to get a dog let alone keep it inside, ive go a granny flat out back, il see if i can convince them to section of a room and keep her in there when im not home, its very big and she has no way to get out at all

Okay have re read old post & this is the pitbull pup??

That you where asking about cable tieing to the clothes line or a run??

Have you decided which option you are using??

thinking on a dog run woruld be the better option, athough i would prefer no restrictios at all.

Have not thought about an inside dog ever, smell, ripping furiture apart. But it could be a option if the pros outweight the cons

is your pit registered as a restricted breed? or registerd as an american staffy?

also ive had staffys in the past but only black ones, do any come red nose?

If the parents are not registered (have no papers) then you cant get them for your pup

ETS Are your talking about registered as in pedigree regsitration papers or ones with local council?

just a council regestration, on the NSW website i just checked it sed i need the microchip form and thats pretty much it, i always thought i needed to have the perants forms but that must be for a pedigree regestration only.

Once a dog is registered as a certian breed can it be disputed later on? and on what grounds can i fight it?

since Ive brought my 8 week pup home she has been sleeping in a box in my room at night and during the day hangs around the living room. she will eat and drink on the veranda (a sliding door leading form the living room). she also wont really eat unless someone is with her, but is become more independent on that.

when i put her out side for a bit she will cry and whine, i know 8 weeks is to young to put her outside but i need her to start getting used to it as she will be an outside dog.

any advice on this please?

i have bought a pup but the parents had no papers ( but are known to there local vet as staffys). she had her first shot and the vet wrote "staffy" for breed?

how can i go about getting her registered??

seeing as create training is to toilet train,

during they day or even at night if she poos somewhere ive heard i just pick the poop up and place it on a pile of newspaper in the location i want her to poop. Then every time she poops i take her to the new papers and she will eventually lean were to poop.

Sydking .... is there a reason why you want her to learn to toilet on newspaper? I mean, do your living arrangements (eg. flat/unit) dictate that your pup does not have access to a yard area? If she does, why teach her it's ok to soil inside on a newspaper only to then later have to train her out of soiling inside on a newspaper?

I'm not a fan of that 'intermediatary' step, unless there's a really good reason for it.

Oh .... and it is "crate", not "create".

And crate training is only an aid to toilet training. You still need to toilet train, which means getting up and taking your pup out for a toilet break frequently. Every two hours is what I recommend in the first couple of days, gradually extending that in half hour increments until puppy is more able to hold on.

the newspaper is not and inside thing, when i will be taking her out side every so often i will direct her to the newspaper.

Since i have quite a big back yard by her pooping on the newspaper area it will save me walking all around the yard picking up poop when i can just clean the one designated area.

i will be crate training at night in my room in a milk crate and i have a door form my room directly to the front which will make things alot easier.

I feed once a day basically alternating with RMB and muscle meat. It all evens out at the end of the week. If I had larger dogs I would probably feed RMB like chicken necks/frames in the morning and then muscle meat & veggie slops in the evening.

BARF FEEDING ROUTINE

MONDAY

Chicken Necks

Slops

TUESDAY

Fish

Slops

WEDNESDAY

Chicken Necks

Yoghurt

Slops

THURSDAY

Kangaroo

Slops

FRIDAY

Chicken Necks

Offal

Slops

SATURDAY

Lamb bones

Slops

SUNDAY

Beef or Lamb or Kangaroo or Pork

Slops

BARF SLOPS INGREDIENTS & METHOD

Things I always include:

- container of alfala spouts

- bunch of spinach (roots cut off)

- bag of carrots

- bunch of celary

- 4 zuccinis

- 3 to 4 oranges (peeled)

- 1 pumpkin

- 2 to 4 apples (pips taken out)

- 2 to 4 bannanas (peeled)

- 8 to 10 eggs (whole including shell)

- flaxseed oil (approx 250mL)

- kelp (approx 100g)

What else you can put in:

- 1 to 2 green capsicums (stalk cut off & seeds out)

- 1 to 2 red caspsicums (stalk cut off & seeds removed)

- bunch of silverbeet

- squash

- sweet potato

- 2 to 4 pears

- half to 1 pinapple

- brussel sprouts

- brocoli

- cauliflower

- bag of beans

- Apple Cider Vinegar

- Vitamin C

Chop up then process up in blender/food processor so that things turn to slops. Put each blender batch into a big bucket. Usually leave the eggs & flaxseed oil for things that don't blend very well like the pumpkin and carrots. Ingredients should fill up a bucket. Mix bucket with big ladel till all mixed through then put into take away containers & freeze untill needed.

sounds like you know what your doing.

i really want to start my pup on barf, ive done alot of research but still a bit confused. Any feeding plans or recipes you could help me with becasue the last thing i want to do is not give my growing pup enough nutrients that its needs.

have you had any pups on barf?

seeing as create training is to toilet train,

during they day or even at night if she poos somewhere ive heard i just pick the poop up and place it on a pile of newspaper in the location i want her to poop. Then every time she poops i take her to the new papers and she will eventually lean were to poop.

could i just use a milk create? with a soft blanket on the floor and the mil create covering her?

im getting my pit bull pup home in a few weeks.

after alot of research ive decided to feed her raw from the moment i get her

ive still confused about what and when to feed her

anyone who has experience in raw feeding with pups help would be very appreciated

maybe a 1 week meal plan or even just a meal plan for a few days would really help me.