vMJv

'puggle' (had not heard of that breed before)

It's a made up name for a cross breed, Pug X Jack Russel.

Little Stewie is a cutie pie. I'm not very familiar with the breed but he does seem to have a dash of something equally as cute in there. He has very expressive eyes

Stewie resembles my old dog a little...especially the side view. Maybe mix a little chihuahua or papillon? How does chihuahua x pomeranian look like? I've seen ads for chi x pom, but I have no idea how they will look like when grown up.

Good luck - Boz had his first day of puppy school on Saturday and it was fantastic !!!!

Boz looks like he had a ball! Some big pups there at pre-school!

Yes, there was a huge mastiff and a lab a week older than boz but bigger. The one that really came out his shell is the little 'puggle' (had not heard of that breed before) who was the smallest --- what a cutie ! Little border pup was small also for his breed. It's just a joy watching them - couple more pics if you'll indulge me !!!

Looks like the pups really enjoy it. The vet I go to do pre-schools too and they have given us some brochures. Maybe I should consider it too...

Sorry, i do apologise, i didnt see you had put that you already had feedback he might not be pure.

he is cute, though.

Just saw this post before I replied your PM. It's ok. I do know that he might not be pure since he's not from registered breeder.

Oooh! he's a little cutie !!!

Yes he is. My husband adores him, especially so when Stewie loves him more than me.

Deleted. Double posting.

My old dog was probably not a purebreed either but purebreed or not doesn't matter as much as a healthy dog to me.

Unfortunately, considering your pup is from an unethical, unregistered breeder, there is actually an increased risk of health issues.

Registered, ethical breeders perform specific health testing on their breeding dogs to minimise the risk of any genetic health issues cropping up. This won't have happened with the person who produced your pup. In addition, registered, ethical breeders will provide ongoing support if anything does happen. Again, you will miss out on this.

Sigh. Well...now we already have him, we just have to make sure to send him straight to the vet when we find something unusual with him. Definitely going to renew his Wellness Plan next year for the free consultations for a peace of mind that I can bring him in anytime I want for consultations.

Hi there

There is heaps of fantastic info here - this is what I LOVE about DOL.

Just to let you know, I empathise it can be overwhelming and information overload so I wanted to share my experience.

My lab pup is now 11 weeks old - I know he's alot BIGGER than Stewie but we had the same crying problems when he was in the laundry, and also woke up to a laundry full of wee and poop ! We changed our tack and started to crate him - but we get up in the night to let him out. After 10 days of doing this, we still have him outside our room so he can 'see' us and he's quiet as a mouse - but we will slowly move him back towards the laundry (still in the crate).

We will hopefully have a quiet pup and a clean laundry very soon ! His toileting is also improving fantasically.

But it's taken time and alot of patience - he's still got such a long way to go on alot of things but I am sure you will see an improvement if you employ some of the great advice here.

Good luck - Boz had his first day of puppy school on Saturday and it was fantastic !!!!

Thanks for sharing the experience and the picture!

I showed my husband all the posts and he commented that everyone is so helpful and had so much information to share we us. And he said we will make things work for Stewie, no problems!

He also sent me some pictures he had on facebook.

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Congratulations on your new puppy!!

You have been given lots of good advice here, I really can't add anything else, but I do 100% agree with crate training. I've raised 2 Australian terrier puppies within the last 2.5 yrs & the crate was a godsend.

I also like the idea of a puppy pen, so your pup has safe confinement during the day, when you are too busy to totally supervise puppy. It comes in handy when your doing household chores or you just need a rest. Just make sure you put heaps of toys in there to keep puppy occupied.

Oh & the most important thing of all . Where's the Pics?

I have some pictures but they are on my laptop. Will upload one when I get home. He's cute and fluffy but I've had feedback that he's probably not purebreed. I didn't buy from a breeder but found him on the Quokka. Hadn't had luck with breeders in WA. Sent emails to 3 of them (found from Canine Association WA online), none replied. When my husband called, he could only get through to one of them and was told that she hadn't had a pup for a while (the last one was 5 months ago) and not expecting one till maybe after April.

My old dog was probably not a purebreed either but purebreed or not doesn't matter as much as a healthy dog to me.

Stewie will have to be better than that.

It is up to YOU what Stewie will be like

if you feed him bones and meat and processed food, or whatever he is on.... in his bowl, at a certain time... then, that is that,where and when he eats ! or he goes hungry til next meal time

Hopefully his breeder gave you good dietary advice

Don't spoil him! little dogs are very good at training their owners ! LOL

That is what I have done after reading the threads prior to Stewie coming to our home. I have fed him at fixed time and once he refused to eat further, I take it away from him. He has been eating decently last night and this morning when I fed him. I made sure I got him to sit and say "food" to him few times before allowing him the food.

My old dog used to get all sorts of food. My mum will wrap sweet and sour pork/fried chicken, etc from our dinner (usually 1 piece as a treat) to bring home for our old dog when we dine out. It didn't do him any good when he reached old age as he had lots of health issues. So my husband and I have stamped our foot on trying not to feed him non-dog food. Vet has suggested rice and boiled chicken (no skin) if Stewie's stools too wet. But we haven't had to resort to that yet.

Aside from all of us being bossy Stewie is certainly lucky to have you as an owner. It's lovely when people want to do the right thing by their new pups. I hope he gives you many years of love and joy like your Chihuahua did.

Thanks! I appreciate everyone's suggestions.

Both me and my husband feel like first time parents to a new born. And this morning both me and my husband were at our wits end and we had to come work (I'm an accountant and I have the auditors coming in soon, so I can't take leave). My husband was going to try to take time off work to go buy the crate and go home check on Stewie as we are worried about him.

I loved my old dog and was so sad that he passed away in singapore last yr of old age. I hadn't seen him for 3 yrs and he left before I could see him again. However, I don't wish Stewie to be as spoilt a brat as my old dog. I remember for the first few yrs we had my old dog, he won't even eat unless we mash his dog biscuits and feel him through our hands. Stewie will have to be better than that.

Putting him in a crate in our room had come to my mind before, but we do not want him in our bedroom in the long run. Would it be a problem if we put him outside later on? We are just afraid it'll be habitual to sleep in our room and it'll be harder later on to put him where we would like him to be.

It *shouldn't* be a problem. All my puppies start off sleeping with me until they can sleep through the night without toileting and are more confident to be able to sleep independently without crying. A 7wo old pup should really be sleeping with you, they are too young to be away from Mum and litter mates at this age

Thanks. It's comforting to know that it's possible to sleep him elsewhere should we want to in future. I've spoken to my husband and he's in for the crating and setting him in our bedroom for the time being. Also, his parents will be coming soon for a visit and it will be good to have someone help look after Stewie and toileting him during the day.

I breed and show poms.

Firstly, it is illegal in NZ to sell a pup younger than 8 weeks, i personally do not let mine go until 10 weeks.

The dog has been bred to be close to humans, its his lifes ambition, to be close to you, and you lock him away in a huge place, for hours and hours on end, with no toilet breaks, id moan too! lol

Definitely crate, and you will NEED to get up once or twice a night to toilet him.Just put on lead, take outside, praise when hes done and put him back, no playing, no growling, no talking, but no nonsense.

Within a week or so you wil notice he will settle down a lot more.

Please dont take him for walks, what you are doing is very dangerous, he would only weigh around 1kg, socialization is important, but the wong socialization is not what you want.

please listen to all the above posters, we only have the pups best interest in mind.

I take all my dogs outside to toilet every 2 hours, thier bladder is about the size of a walnut at that age, cant hold on all night.

I do not know of any reputable breeder who would let a pup go at 7 weeks. Do research about the breed as well.

they are known to be vocal but they do not have to be. training is the key. Mine bark when someone calls in, and a stray cat comes into the section, but thats about it. Seeing as they are smaller than the cats, they cant do much, lol.

Thanks for your kind advise. I will do as suggested and perserve with his toileting.

I have only brought him out once for about 10-15 mins and will definitely not do so until I check with vet on his next vaccination on when it's appropriate to do so for Stewie.

Are you in Australia?

I just notice you say "will bring him to the vet" - not "take him to the vet"

I am in Australia but I am not Australian. I'm Singaporean but Australian Pr living here for more than 5 yrs.

As said... he has NO protection from disease

he is way too small to even think about peeing on poles yet.

he smells BIG mature dog pee on poles.. and reacts accordingly

If you are not noticing him pee during the day.. then he is either peeing somewhere inside where you can't see... or he is dehydrated or ill and needs to see a vet urgently.

some housetraining info

Thanks for the information.

We have brought him to a vet on Sat to give him his first check up to make sure everything was ok and got him set up on a Wellness Plan with the vet and got all his 12 flea treatments and worming covered, as well as free consultations. I will definitely bring him in to a vet if he's unwell.

crating is the way to go definately.

Can I ask why you chose a pomeranian? Was it size or the fact they are a very human orientated breed?

Poms want to be with you, they are a toy companion breed and you are pushing it away so it is confused. What is wrong with the crate being in the bedroom with you? Its giving the dog some comfort as well since it has been taken away early and is trying to cope at an age where it is not ready to.

If you dont want a dog that is with you most of the time then reconsider the pom. Be very careful as well because poms are delicate and if it is jumping up and down it can break a bone especially at this age. They should not be allowed to jump across barriers or up./down furniture for their own sake.

It could also be whining because it doesnt understand where to toilet and at 7 weeks it cannot hold on for a few hours. Maybe train it to a litter box with paper based cat litter in it? add a tissue with some wee on it to the litter box and encourage it to go there at night.

My old dog was a long hair chiwawa (though he looks more like a papillon) and I wanted a toy companion breed.

My husband was very concerned about him jumping over the barriers too once realised he is attempting to do so the whole night.

I will give everything a think through and consider trying some of the suggestions like a crate.

Another point - a 7 week old puppy (or any young puppy for that matter - even at 5 months I don't) should not be walked for exercise. Exercise should be free exercise which means some play time in the home or backyard - it should not be 'forced exercise'. At 7 weeks old and such a small breed I would have thought 10 mins at a time would be more than enough but am open to correction on that from small breed owner.

Have you had confirmation that he had his vaccination at 6 weeks?

He has had his 6 weeks vaccination. We have the vet card and the next vaccination date on it as well.

Thanks for all valuable suggestions. I will definitely consider a crate and perhaps pick one up before the shop closes after work today and do more reading on crating the dog.

Also, he seems scared of poles which has been marked by other dogs when we take him for his walk (was hoping he would pee since he didn't do so for the whole day)...he refused to go near the pole and would wimp when we tried to get him close.

DO NOT take your 7 week old puppy out on walks!

As it is, he was too young to have left his mother. What injections has he had? If he had his 6 week one then it takes up to 2 weeks before the immunity is there.

You are exposing your puppy to parvo, kennel cough etc. Please find MissyMoo's thread in Health or Show Ring to find out what happens if a puppy gets parvo.

Read up about crate training. Not confining such a small pup at such a young age in a small area is IMO pitiful. My 5 month old 35kg dane gets put into his crate without any problems - it is their secure space.

If he is crying - take him out, do the toilet routine and otherwise ignore him. When he is finished - straight back into the crate.

Just out of interest - was he a spur of the moment purchase or a planned, researched one?

Oh dear, I didn't know that would be a problem. Thanks for the reminder!

We had been planning to buy the puppy since we moved into our new home last April. But apparently we didn't do a good job at our planning. Getting information bits here and there seems to have confused us. Bed or crate. Ignore or let it in our room. We chose to ignore and set the rules but we have probably underestimated how tough it would be to raise a puppy. I didn't have this much problem with my old dog when he was a puppy, but that was probably because we gave him whatever he wanted and he would still pee and poo in the apartment wherever he likes till the day he died.

congratulations on your new puppy vMJv. the 1st few weeks would be tiring as your puppy gets used to his new surroundings. when i got my puppy, i was grouchy as hell. he would whine, whine, whine... bark bark bark...stop....and the cycle repeats himself all over again. your might try to exhaust your pup just a lil before he goes to bed... tat way, after a while of whinning, he'll get tired soon enough and go to bed.

as much it would seem that the crate is a cruel thing to do, some people believe that dog's love their own space and giving them a crate is like giving them a lil home of their own. and getting them use to it at a young age would help, just in case in the future he need to be placed in one for travel or anything else.. as for the bed, i wouldn't suggest you buying him a bed just yet since he's not toilet trained and may go on the bed.

have patience and soon you'll have a adorable lil boy!!

I will speak to my husband about the crate since majority are in favour of a crate.

We thought we have exhausted him on his walk yesterday. But his energy just seems to last forever and the whinning never stopped.

I would also suggest crate training him. I have a 7 month old pomeranian puppy and when I first got her she was terrible at settling down for the night (would carry on barking and whimpering). When my pup was nine weeks (when I first got her) she would be put in her crate at 10pm, then I would wake at least once during the night to toliet her then she would sleep through till at least 6am, just ignore any barking or whinging in between. She was sleeping in her crate from 10pm till 6am with no toliet breaks or whingying by 14 weeks old.

So before 14 weeks old, she was still whining? Does your puppy cry all night with no stops? I don't mind if he cries, but not all night long please. How long before he will stop the non-stop crying? I think me and my husband are going to start crying all night long if he doesn't improve.

Well if you look at it in his perspective it must be pretty terrifying being a defensless puppy left all on his own. In the wild if a pup ever got separated from their pack they're as good as dead! So realy its kind of like a survival instict to cry out for help.

What ive done when ive have puppies is set up a puppy pen with newspaper and a dog bed right next to my bed, that way the puppy knows he's not alone and feels safe and i can just reach my hand down to reassure him.

Would we be able to get him to sleep elsewhere later on? How long would he need to sleep in the bedroom before he can be moved elsewhere?

My colleague asked her vet for some advise...and their advise is IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE. But it's too loud to ignore.

7 weeks is still too young to be away from his family... he will cry

make sure he has had a good play session, a feed,and a toilet opportunity.

get him a puppy kong.. put some treats in.. or leave him with a LARGE bone.

the ticking clock/hot water bottle thing is good too

leave an item of worn clothing from the pair of you... he will then smell that you are 'near'

he will only be able to hold his bladder a short time.. so if he is awake.. he will need to pee .

We do play with him during the day (we are able to do during weekends but weekdays both my husband and I are away at work though and we do not have kids at the moment to play with Stewie) and we bring him for walks in the park. We tried to get him to toilet but he doesn't seem to want to pee/poo. Only poo once yesterday (while we weren't looking and preparing dinner) and didn't pee at all during the day. Also, he seems scared of poles which has been marked by other dogs when we take him for his walk (was hoping he would pee since he didn't do so for the whole day)...he refused to go near the pole and would wimp when we tried to get him close.

He has our old clothes though he prefered my husband's clothes comared to mine.

We are trying to "ignore him" during the night. How do we know if he is wanting to pee? We do not want to go out when he is wimping/crying as we are afraid he might be only seeking attention and just wanting to stick to us.

Can we go to him at all during the night if we choose to keep him where he is now for bedtime (maybe smaller the area)? When is it appropriate to go to him? I don't want to go out and pacify him to sleep everytime he wimps/cries as I think if I do so, he won't stop this behaviour.

I'll try the ticking clock tonight. Hope it works.

Congratulations on your new puppy, however 7 weeks is to young for him to be away from his mother and siblings so this may be contributing to the problem.

I would buy a crate and put him in it next to your bed, then if he starts you can place your hand on the crate to let him know you are there, ofcause you will need to get up to take him out for toilet breaks, but at least you will get some sleep in between.

Putting him in a crate in our room had come to my mind before, but we do not want him in our bedroom in the long run. Would it be a problem if we put him outside later on? We are just afraid it'll be habitual to sleep in our room and it'll be harder later on to put him where we would like him to be.

Stewie is a baby puppy that should still be with his mother at 7 weeks. That aside, he's a very small baby in a large area. Crate train him or restrict to him a small areas that becomes his bed/den and comfort zone.

He's tiny and he's alone.

We hadn't thought that a big area would make matters worst. On Saturday, he was sleeping in the kitchen area as my husband hasn't completed his screen and that area was smaller to screen, but my husband prefered to give him the games area which overlooks our backyard so he has "some scenery" instead of the dishwasher and drawers to look at and chew on.

So maybe we should make his "area" smaller?

Also, I just realised one of my colleague have a pomeranian and he told me pomeranians are good jumpers and his can jump up to a cabinet which is about near waist height. Is that true? In this case, my husband's screen would be useless to keep him zoned anyway...

Is there any reason you are not crating him at night? We put our 11 week old toy poodle in a crate with some toys and a ticking clock, and he's never had a problem.

My husband thinks it's very pitiful to confine him to a small area which is why he has put up a barricade in our games room (which is open area to our kitchen, dining and living area, so the area is big and the games area alone is a theatre room size about 4x4).

I must admit we have not bought everything we need for Stewie as we want to see what he need, then buy instead of blindly buying everything. He has some toys and a couple of our old clothes and an old pillow to sleep on which he has pee on in the night before.

I am thinking of buying him a bed which my colleague suggested (I wasn't sure if a crate or a bed would be better, hence we haven't bought him one...it also didn't help when most shops weren't open in Perth yesterday to do some shopping).

Now, I'm not sure about bed or crate...

My old dog used to hate his crate and would chew through the crate wiring which is why I had second thoughts on crate previously. But seems many suggested crating...I should probably give it more tot.