gemibabe

thanks for that insight GT, pretty much thought this was done and dusted... and the fact that they are feeding and hunting makes me a happy camper.

ah they are all good. they pulled down an injured roo the other day and had a mighty feast.

problem is they are adapting to the 'easy life' - eating grasshoppers around the lighting plants, scavaging for food when there is plenty of cows and donkey's or are they not that kind of killer?....the photos are of the parents.. the pups are in a worse condition. although they are about 8-12mnths old. Hard to tell really....just can't get a decent picture of them

here are some pics of them... long time coming!

Peoples, I'm home on break now so no pics for atleast another 2 weeks.

The dogs are still there and I wont be calling anyone until I've posted the pics up here and like someone mentioned, highly unlikely anyone will come out to test them...

Great reading though, have to say i've been educated somewhat so thanks lol

Its ok we don't have phone reception up here so wont be calling anyone just yet.

I will def try my hardest to get a picture. Might take a few weeks though as I'm FIFO 2/1.

I've bookmarked this thread so to when I do get the pic i'll bump it.

The dogs aren't affraid of our big haul packs. They come quite close when we are getting loaded under the digger. Smart little cookies.

Hi all, Been a while...

I work on a North WA minesite and we have Dingo's that visit us in the evenings while working. They only come around the lighting plants as the amount of grasshoppers they feed on are plentiful.

They look skinny though. If the minesite report to the owner of the land (a farmer) he will shoot them..

Is there perhaps a dingo rescue mob that could capture and relocate or rehome them in a wildlife sanction somewhere?

So far I've noticed a small pack of 3 - all about the same age - roughly 12 months going on height.

Erny/Haven thank you for explaining the difference. I dont' think I've mentioned anything 'bad' about the ecollar, only the shock collars, or anti barking ones..

Seems everyone had a go at me for jumping to my conclusion about the shock collar but they were all quick to judge me and and jumped to their conclusion that I was having a go at their ecollars... which wasn't the case at all, unless they are putting the two in the same basket... is that whats happening here I wonder?

"Shock" collars, as you call them are (AFAIK) most often used as a GENTLE 'poke' on the neck- to momentarily distract the dog, and turn his/her attention.

Erny - My momentarily comment was in response to this one made by peresphone and wasn't meant to sound 'high and mighty'.. more of well if thats what its for, you can do just the same with a clicker.. And as stated earlier, the situation in which one would use a clicker or a shock wasn't mentioned.

I don't have training expertise, but I don't like the idea of a shock to the dog, the more it barks. Dogs bark for alot of reasons and as shown in that video the darn thing zapped the guy when he spoke, so if the dog is whimpering because it hurt, would the dog be logical and stop whimpering??

ps: I waited till 2am again oops naughty me

You are right it is not about clickers but earlier on in the thread one of the anti ecollar protestors claimed that you could stop a dog on a rampage just as efficiantly with a clicker.

My gawd, talk about over the top... I said You can momentarily distract the dog with a clicker.....no type of situation was mentioned... but be as sarcastic as you like.. it wont win you any brownie points with me.

Gemibabe - thank you. But in all fairness, there are many good posts by others here that are designed to provide educational information or at least examples to demonstrate that the stim-collar is not the vial piece of equipment that you were lead to believe by the video clip you posted in your OP. I think they deserve respect too. :D

No sorry erny, no fairness with people like Luke and Tony and others that feel sarcasm will help in discussing my 'sweeping statement'. If they actually cared for the product they are defending then they wouldn't carry on the way they do.

How do you know how much shock the dog feels? This is what I have a problem with. Who can honestly know this?

My staffy is a pretty determined bitch, would she withstand the highest setting because she loves chasing the pigeons that much? I would say she would. She is a stubborn dog and very very determined.

Someone mentioned that they weren't sure if we were talking about the same collars here. As K9 force said, its an anti barking collar. When the dog barks it shocks the dog with electricity... I'm not sure what the difference is between other collars but if there are so many diff variety's out there, how can you be so sure its ok to use on any dog?

Alot of people were quick to say its an ecollar... is an ecollar controlled by how much the dog barks or by someone controlling how short or long the zap is given? big difference I feel.

Gemibabe, interesting that you waited till nearly 2 in the morning to post.

I'm in Perth thanks... and who gives what time I jumped on the laptop... get a life!

Turn off the computer for a bit and look what happens :rolleyes:

Seems I wasn't suppose to do that...

Do you know why a vet has to determine the suitability? What things would the vet be looking for in suitability or what would fail the dog for suitability Erny?

Apart from the "health" aspect, and as I understand it, the reason a Vet was appointed to determine suitability was because the Govt were at a loss to easily and without complications, identify any one other group that was 'qualified' (using formal terms) in the eyes of the Government. It is acknowledged within the documents from Government that the downside of this was that Vets across the board do not necessarily have the experience in dog behaviour and training nor a good understanding of the tool in question. But that's what they went with anyway .....

AND....can the typical DOL mentality of ganging up on people cease please. Some of you really need to step out of this unless you have something constructive to add.

No-one's ganging up or bullying you Gemibabe. You've simply made a statement, an assertion if you will. And now you're recognising how many people disagree with you and are pointing out where and how your statement/assertion is flawed.

I wasn't actually referring to me being bullied, more so for Flip... I have thicker skin than this...

I have actually been out at the wineries all day and have returned with a headache so will not reply to your questions erny until later... like others I have respect for you, but little for some others on here.

In Victoria, use of the e-collar is restricted in that a person must obtain Veterinary consult to confirm the dog's health and suitability for e-collar use; and work under the instruction/supervision of a qualified trainer. But even before this regulation came in, I was not aware of the tool being used and dogs being abused with it. As I mentioned, the unconscientious don't usually go to too many lengths to only then turn around and abuse their dogs. But I definately would not want their availability through common outlet stores.

There were those people in recent times who apparently used duct tape around their dogs' muzzles to stop them from barking through the day ...................... :. So you see what I mean?

Do you know why a vet has to determine the suitability? What things would the vet be looking for in suitability or what would fail the dog for suitability Erny?

AND....can the typical DOL mentality of ganging up on people cease please. Some of you really need to step out of this unless you have something constructive to add.

BUT I FEEL this type of training tool should never be allowed on any animal. that is my opinion. sorry some people can't accept that. Not sure why you want to argue the issue with me.

I also feel that the shock collars are a lazy way to training a dog. Kyliegirl that video was just the same as the one I posted except yours mentioned they were testing it to see how the dog is going to feel... and " so he can go for walks without getting run over"... keep the lead on or get a long one...

I hope those people didn't expect the dog to stop dead in its tracks at the side of the road when they clicked the button!

oh please persephone you didn't even know what I was posting about... a gentle 'poke' I think not....it was an electric shock..

Oh and Tony, I couldn't careless what you say about whomever. I don't get all involved with such emotional bullshit you obviously get off on. Your opinions are your opinions, I accept that.

You can momentarily distract the dog with a clicker btw...

Cosmolo, the shock collar in the video clearly had 6 levels, not 15, so the intensity could/would of been alot more than your collar...

A guy wears a shock collar to see how humane it is... I know the characteristics are huge from dog to human skin but I feel this type of training tool should never be allowd on any animal.

http://www.filecabi.net/video/dog-collar-man.html

oh gosh look at those georgous eyes.

So sorry for your loss :D

Hey Jake least you got the code right

Bud was PTS due to kidney failure

RIP Buddy Boy... you were a good boy.

You lived a good life and protected those you loved.

See you on the other side one day :p

Thinking of you Sarah and Tahlia :D

thanks for the replies.

I will try only the positives. We've had him a year now, and I've never had to tell him off. He is well behaved besides this one incident.

I have a clicker, never used it before. Have the tips on how to, so might buy some tasty treats and start.

thanks for the post

Noone's had to deal with this before??

Hey peoples

My rescue boy, Joey has come along leaps and bounds. He makes eye contact now which is great. Still gulps his food..

For those that are new/ish... I rescued Joey from my local pound. He'd been left tied up out the front of a vets in Mandurah. He has been beaten and abused, where he wouldn't even look you in the eye. He cowers and slinks off if you raise your voice even when its not directed at him. He doesn't know what to do when you hand him a toy, unless my other staffy has it.. he will play with other dogs well, he wont play with humans.. oh yeah he is a staffy x

Anyways, he wee'd on the couch tonight and when I called him in to the room, he did so slinking and pee'ing everywhere I don't want to call him in all happy toned, then lower my tone to tell him off... I also don't want to let things like that slide 'just because'.

So if anyone has dealt with this situation before, I'd love to hear from you.

Cheers,

Kylie

my first dog died from pancreatitus at the age of 4 she was a cross between a corgie/collie

peibe he is a gentle tank lol

Ok so do I remove the hessian beds that keep them off the concrete and warm and dry?

Should I remove the outdoor settting thats plastic? Do you think he would start to chew that also?

Sezy its as if they are telling us off for leaving them!

I just know Joey is stressing though :D

He is a Staffy x pitty perhaps?. He is the larger of the two in the photo.

They get put outside about 20mins before we leave. I usually give them a pig foot to eat, which they demolish within seconds..They both peer thru the blinds with the big sad eyes. He is always sitting behind Shelby, with her being first in/out the door.

They then run around to the shut roller door and sniff and listen - I guess - to us getting in the car... The car has been idling for 10mins prior to this.

Both are not sooks or vocal when we are leaving.

They do the usual staffy chatter/cry when we arrive home... and I don't let them inside for atleast 10mins after we've gotten home.

When we are home he follows me everywhere. To the toilet, to the kitchen, to get undressed He would even sit in the bathroom while I showered if I let him.

You cannot raise your voice at anything or he slinks off to hide. Raising your voice to call out to my son, laughing at the TV/PC, being cross with my son, ... Joey is a very good dog in the sense that he just sits at my feet all night - more like under my feet, where Shelby is sniffing around for crumbs, doing zoomies, wanting out to chase cats etc.

You only have to make eye contact with him and he will come to you. He could be lying in the sun outside and I'll look over, he'll spot me do this and come over to me. (not sure if thats important or not)

Bones are a no go with my female being a complete and utter biatch and hog of all food things.

Wont build a run, he can't get out, hole digging is nowhere near fencing and all my fencing is bounded by back yards.. so if he gets out from the yard (highly unlikely) he will find himself in someone elses back yard and will have to escape from there :rolleyes: He can't jump either.

Hi everyone,

I have myself a job. 9-5, I'm gone for 9hours.

Joey, the pound boy, I'v had him since april/may.

He is chewing everything in site. A sponge that was left out, the futon beds I have outside for both dogs, the poop bucket :rolleyes: (yes the bucket I use to pick up the poop with), and something mysterious.... foam from something that I just can't name, I have no idea where it came from. And three huge holes

All this in 5 days

Its not Shelby, she doesn't have this type of issue and handles been left all day very well.

Is Joey suffering from Seperation Anxiety?

I have 2 days to work with him before its back to work on Monday Poor guy !!