jazzygirl

I have just seen and ad on Facebook. Someone has Purebred Kelpies for sale, but they are Tri coloured? I can't find anything about this being a coat colour, has anyone else heard of this?

BTW she is selling them for $50 so my guess would be they are not Purebred

This is my dear old Kelpie Jess(now dec.)

She was a most unusual colour, I got her in the mid north of South Australia in the late 80s and I have only ever seen one or two others with similar colouring, is it common in other states?

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This is our Jazz. Robbi, can't say I've seen that colouring here in Tassie!

Red and chocolate in Kelpies are both the brown gene so they are the same colour but when the standard was written no on knew that. Sadly many standards are genetically incorrect for colour because no one had a clue about genetics when they decided what colours to include. Chocolate in a Border Collie is brown but the colour termed red in BCs is the ee gene which is called orange/gold/yellow/cream in most other breeds.

Dog pigment can only be black, brown or the dilutions of these two colours, blue/grey or fawn/lilac (Wei colour). Hair colour can also be yellow (ee) which masks the basic pigment colour in the coat or white. All other "colours" are patterns made from combinations of these colours. The shade and intensity of any colour, including black will vary from dog to dog but they can still only be one of four basic pigment colours and anything else is a coat pattern.

This would be so much easier for everyone to follow if the colours had the same name in all breeds.

Thanks dancinbcs! Very informative post

I'm glad someone understood it.

FANTASTIC POST :D And Yes it would be easier to follow if they all had the same name!

I tell ya, it's mighty difficult to find a Red/Tan Male in Tassie

Answered in general

Thank you for the replies :D I get it now, just needed it in simple terms, lol

Red is recessive to black so a black that carries red could produce some red offspring to your girl. Using a red dog would give you a full red litter because red cannot carry black. The best idea is to use the best dog and work with whatever colours you get. At the moment I would be wary of having red Kelpies for sale. I can see them being in huge demand by people who shouldn't own them, because of the movie.

I didn't even think about the movie! Yes, you could be right there. We are wanting to keep a female from our girls next litter and we do prefer the red and tan. With Jazzy's first litter we were very selective of the homes and they all went to working farms in Tassie. I am still in touch with 7 out of the 9 owners which I think is great!

Certainly makes sense! Thank you I will have to do some research when I find a Male on what their previous litters have been :D

Hi all,

I need help regarding the colour genetics when breeding. I have been looking on the internet but I seem to be mo0re confused!

Our Purebred Kelpie bitch Jazz had her 1st litter of pups in May 2010. Jazz is a Red and Tan and the dog we used was Black and Tan, ALL 10 (1 still born) were Black and Tan. My question is, will we only be able to get Red and Tan offspring if both parents are Red and Tan? I do hear conflicting statements, hence the confusion. Both Jazz's parent's were Red and Tan but on her Sires side there seems to be alot of Black and Tan down the line.

Any help would be appreciated, Thank you

Hi all,

I need help regarding the colour genetics when breeding. I have been looking on the internet but I seem to be mo0re confused!

Our Purebred Kelpie bitch Jazz had her 1st litter of pups in May 2010. Jazz is a Red and Tan and the dog we used was Black and Tan, ALL 10 (1 still born) were Black and Tan. My question is, will we only be able to get Red and Tan offspring if both parents are Red and Tan? I do hear conflicting statements, hence the confusion. Both Jazz's parent's were Red and Tan but on her Sires side there seems to be alot of Black and Tan down the line.

Any help would be appreciated, Thank you

Hi all.

I am in southern Tasmania and we are looking for a Red and Tan Male for our girl Jazz. I'm not having much luck so far and would appreciate if anyone here could point me in the right direction. Cheers

It seems like only yesterday that they arrived. Growing so fast

With Uncle Eski

Gorgeous photo

Hi guys, just thought I would update you on the pups progress. 4 weeks old and after a visit to the vet for a routine check, all 9 pups are happy and healthy After our concern for our runt, Indie, she is just flying along. Mum never tried to move her (or any other pups) again, so very happy with the outcome. Mum got a checkup also and our vet said she is a picture of health.

This being our first litter, we sure have learnt alot and I'm sure there is plenty more to come.

How quick they grow!!! We are just loving these bundles of joy Pic's taken today at 25 days old, not many because my camera batteries died I could just keep they all

Really on the move now

Our runt Indie, who is doing wonderfully

Congrats piper It's a great feeling isn't it. All the very best.

Earthdog. I put "pending" in because I had to registered Bullet as he wasn't registered when I brought him I only got his certificate today and I have now put in his correct registered name

My breeder and I are very close :D We too went to thier wedding and it was a beautiful and fantastic day. She arrived in their Shortgarden Kelpies ute It was awesome

LOL, that is Onyx He is my fave, they are all very cute, but this boy is super cute!!!

Yes shortstep Kelpies certainly can inherite HD.

Woofenpup - Yes CA is a great concern and I know where you are coming from.

Thanks for sharing guys.

EDT to correct spelling.....oops

Taken today at 15 days old 4 females then 5 males

Rajaro Azure

Rajaro Inca

Rajaro Indie (Our runt)

Rajaro Topaz

Rajaro Jasper

Rajaro Jet

Rajaro Mac

Rajaro Ocker ( Our BIG boy)

Rajaro Onyx

With Mum

I thought this would be a great topic as I am really only aware of degenerative disorders of the Kelpie. So I will start

The kelpie is a generally sound breed but the degenerative brain disorder called Cerebellah Abiotrophy is a concern and has been since the mid 80's. This disease affects a dog's coordination, balance, depth perception, stance and motor skills.

It can be very obvious or only slight. This horrible degenerative brain disease can affect even new born pups. It is a recessive gene that can be carried by dogs that show no signs.

I would LOVE to receieve photo's and updates on the pups I had bred. We have our first litter at the moment and when it's time for the forever homes, I will certainly be encouraging this

As most of you know, Rajaro Kelpies has a litter of 9 black and tan purebred Kelpies. This is our very first litter and was wanting some ideas on where is best to advertise them when the time comes? The Tas country is an obvious one for me but what are the other options?

Thanks

I wouldn't expect my dogs to defend me from another dog or person. We often laugh at Jazz, she will bark and hackles come up ( and it's quite loud and scary) if a stranger comes into the driveway and then when they get out of the car she runs upto us and hides She will continue to bark until we tell her "it's ok" Thats all I ask :D

On the other hand if close friends pull into the driveway, we don't hear a thing!

As I am now learning Cockerlover. I only wish I had joined DOL earlier. Just spent time and handle each pup doing the stimulation excerise's. ( I printed it out to make sure I was doing it correctly ) Whilst doing this which each pup, I also payed attention and spoke to Jazz and she was more than happy for me to be handling her babies, as were they

As the info suggested I will do these excerise's once per day (as over stimulation can have adverse and detrimental results) and will continue to just play and love them as normal.

That was soooo enjoyable for all of us. THANKYOU, THANKYOU, THANKYOU