Rottsup

Recently had some read by Lavelle in Victoria, had my result back in 2 days

We don't have any puppies or any litters due.

However I was wondering what breeders were doing in regards to this new law in Victoria where the microchip number must be included in your advertisement. My interpretation of this law is that you can not advertise your litter ie: 6 girls & 6 boys without inluding 12 microchip numbers in the said ad. If this is the case then I wont be advertising my puppies (when ever that may be) until after they are 6 weeks old as I will not microchip until a min age of 6 weeks. Wondering what other breeders do and particularly breeders with small breeds in Victoria will do too...

PS: This State is so legislated (not just with animals) and over taxed that I wonder why ppl choose to live in Victoria !!!!

Huntia, how is your boy going with his sore knee?

Just curious as my girl has just been diagnosed with a strained knee but I think it is her foot rather than her knee

Depending on your breed. We have Rottweilers and we NEVER add calcium powder to their food.

We feed a holistic dry food PLUS raw lean red meat with grated raw fruit & vegies plus raw egg complete with shell (which is natural calcium) Yogurt (again nat cal) crushed garlic (keep fleas and maybe ticks away) sardines in oil (small bones in sardines is another source of calcium) PLUS raw whole chicken necks & carcases (more calcium)

Your dog will absorb what his/her body requires naturally from these whole foods and disgard the rest.

We also feed all our dogs at their chest height from about 3 months of age so they are not putting undue weight on their front legs / pasterns.

As Diesel's Mate says... walking on uneven surfaces or pea gravel for 10 to 30 mins (build up slowly) a day should help strengthen your puppy's pasterns and his/her splayed toes. Then once they are nice and strong make sure you allow him/her on grass, gravel, sand and other different surfaces regularly.

Good luck :D

There is no right or wrong way to decide, it's up to the individual breeder.

For us, if a pup is sold as a show/breeding potential pup then it is sold on main register, if a pup is sold as a pet then it is sold on limited register. As simple as that.

Exactly the same for us too :)

Thank you for this info Bisart Dobes...

After reading this topic, I will discuss my last litter,

Since having a severe heart murmur in a puppy a few years ago I have supplemented all my bitches with Folate before and during pregnancy and all has been good but my last litter was a nightmare >>

This female has only ever delivered 2 litters of 3 pups > 1 stillborn next 4 > 1 still born so for her final litter she was given Receptal and Yeah she gave me 5 beautiful babies I was ecstatic.

But the hammer was about to fall > 1 male puppy was born with a short > just 2 vertebrae tail. He did fine that is until they were all up and walking (all he could do was bunny hop), he had a spinal deformity and had to be PTS > down to 4. The other puppies all continued to thrive > that was until they were weaned.

Next disaster was a puppy that started to vomit occasionally after meals, at first I thought it was just because she was a little pig so I slowed down her eating and she was much better but not enough for me to relax. (In my heart I knew what her problem was) but I had to know for sure so I asked my vet to do an xray and sure enough she had a megaesosphagus. I brought her back home but a week later I had to give her her wings. Broke my heart to let her go. Then there is the other male puppy he has descended testicles.

Previously to this litter except for the heart murmur I had never had any deformities.

I will NEVER supplement again and nor will I interfere with Mother Nature, she always knows best.

Oh Fordogs, my heart goes out to you. Here you are trying to do what you thought was the right thing and you have this.

Thank you for sharing your story and experience, I am sure many of us have learnt something from it.

I have suggested to the people who spoke to me about it to add digestives - I like Lifestream Advanced Digestive Enzymes and find that Super Colostrum is fantastic to add to puppies food when they are first weaned - though won't hurt to add it now, you can get it in tablet or powder form - great product.

It may be only one or two puppies that aren't digesting properly but working that out would be impossible - far easier to treat them all.

Hi Bisart Dobes,

A few of questions for you...

1. Can you get a "canine" specific Super Colostrum as I know of many brands but all contain lactose and cows milk proteins?

2. With the Lifestream ADE, is there a canine specific brand?

2. Where do you buy your Super Colostrum and Lifestream ADE from as neither appear to be easily found in Vic?

Thanks in advance for your reply

Thought I would add my experience from January 2011.

No airline or pet carrier to my knowledge will fly a pregnant dog after 42 days gestation.

On vets advice, we flew our bitch at 35 days from Perth to Melbourne and not sure if it was the stress of the flight or the stress of the move in general but she lost her litter at 48 days gestation. She has gone on to deliver a healthy litter of 12 after mating at her next season.

I would never fly a pregnant bitch again unless it was right after mating...ie: within a few days from being mated.

In my breed (Rottweilers) most definitely not & our breed club COE wouldn't allow either.

This poll is ridiculous....Rotti's are the most beautiful loving loyal dogs, apart from when they are in the hands of a dickhead and being taught to bite. However like any human race, dog breed etc, there are a small handful or huge manority who make or create a bad name for the rest.... then to top it off, the media reports are mostly exaggerated which creates many people in the community believing what they hear/read... sadly

Poll now at

Yes - 5523 (37%)

No - 9320 (63%) - getting there

We have had two litters within the last 4 months. First litter of 10 were quite manageable and the mum was very good at flicking the ones who were full off with her tongue which allowed others to come in to feed. Our current litter there are 12 pups and the extra 2 make a big difference. They are 17 days old today. We rotate in 2 groups of 6 around the clock 24/7 which has worked very well so far. All but one of the pups doubled their birth weight by 12 days old. We did not supplement feed but kept a very close watch incase we needed to. We still have the 2 groups of six and will continue to do this even when we start solids as I feel it will be easier for the pups to get their fair share and for us to manage too.

We did put the 6 who were not nursing in one of those plastic tubs on wheels with a hotwater bottle and a towel over the top to stop draughts but we found that without some air circulation the plastic box got condensation which dampened the towel in the bottom (under the hotwater bottle) so we brought a laundry basket which was tightly woven plastic but allowed some slight air flow without any draughts and this worked so much better.

When we take them to the vet for their first vaccinations and microchips we put them all in a crate in the back of our car and off we go. Once there (I have help) one of us gets one while the other stays with the vet while he does the vaccinations and microchip, once one is done the next one is in the room and we take the one done back to the crate and keep going until they are all done. If we could get a vet out to our place we would but generally they want quite a large fee to visit us.

Hope this helps someone :-)

Not sure why you have a puppy at 7 weeks when they shouldn't leave until they are 8 weeks.

Just verbally repremand and walk away.

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Hi Tatjana

32 is not extremely high in the scheme of things with HD in Rottweilers. However it does mean you CAN NOT ever breed with her. 32 does not mean she has HD or even that she will develop HD. My suggestion is to make sure she receives regular low impact exercise (like swimming), give her fish oil with chondroitin daily and have her desexed. This way you are doing everything possible to ensure she has a long happy healthy life with you. Good luck

Sounds absolutely great then Hugo needs a large breed food because of the density of his bones or something something (I forgot the details ) and if it won't harm his growth, we might be switching to BH :D

Can anyone tell me an estimate of how much BH costs? We're feeding Nutro at the moment, but at $115 for 15 KG and Hugo going through a bag every two-three months, we're going broke, so we can't afford much more than $100 per 15kg!

Hi Dju,

We have Rottweilers on it so as far as having a breed with large thick bone goes I think it is great BUT we also feed raw chicken carcases, roo meat and much more in the way of raw meaty bones.

ETA: It costs me $75 for 20kg but we drive to the distributor and pick it up so no delivery costs.

Ok well that's good to know. I'm not too fussed with the price as she is my only child heehee and I don't mind spending the money on good food! But if they are much a muchness I might just keep her on RC as it's obviously a lot easier to get! Thanks for the advice guys :-)

Hi Olivebaby,

I know of a breeder who lives in Canning Vale / Southern River area who just took home a few bags to try on a couple of his fussy eaters / show dogs. If he is convinced this is the stuff to have he has mentioned becoming the distributor in WA. When I find out what he has decided I will re-post here and let you know the contact details.

My guess is the VCA just the wrong terminology.

Straws are straws, that get placed into a container that is clipped onto a cane.

Pellets go into vials (vials are the container the pellets are stored in)

The vials are then slid/clipped onto a cane.

Thanks SwaY.... this was very helpful

When I used to live in Darwin people would take their dogs into the local shop. The scariest thing I saw though was when I went to the Nightcliff shopping center and saw a 2 meter croc walking through the door

This is hard to believe...I used to live there for 9 years and heard many croc stories, but a croc walking through the door of a shop (no shopping "centre" in Nightcliff when I lived there not so long ago, just the small open mall and shops in the street)but anyway that's not the point, crossing the Stuart Hwy and occassionally being found in someones backyard pool happened from time to time. Regularly there were dogs tied up outside Palmerston SC & Casuarina SC in Darwin and almost always without water in the hot tropical weather..

It's only food shops where it is unlawful to take dogs. Every other shop or shopping centre is at the manager's discretion. If you can get away with taking the dog in the shopping centre, why not? I wouldn't leave one tied up unattended though, anywhere.

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Thanks Angelsun :D ,

The reason I am asking this is because the person who brought the semen into Oz brought in 200+ straws and the post thaw report (done by Monash Vet) says they thawed one 0.25ml straw and tested it etc. However according to Dogs Vic they have the semen registered as "so many" vials. So I thought xxx amount of straws must be in a vial.

Maybe I should just call Dogs Vic and see if they have made a mistake but I don't think they are the gurus on straws/vials/pellets etc so not sure where else to ask appart from calling Monash but hard to speak with the right people.....

Maybe someone else knows something... maybe SWAYD :D

Hi all,

Can someone please confirm for me,

How many straws fit into a vial??? (I am led to believe there are 3 different sizes of vials) If you could tell me how many fit into each of the 3 sizes I would be very greatful.

Thank you

:D

The cane. It holds 12 straws or 3 to 6 vials depending on the size of the vial. Google tells me vial = pellet. Each pellet is one breeding unit. Stud cattle sites very helpful, gave me key words to refine my search

Hi Rebanne,

Just interested in this topic regarding the different units and I am a little confused.

If someone brought in 15 vials, how many straws would this equate to approx?

Thanks

Rottsup

For those interested...I was quoted the following prices on the 1st June 2011 from a guy called Chris at Jetpets. All from Melbourne and all including crate for 9 week old Rottweiler puppies.

to Syd $130

to Canberra $130

to Brisbane $130

to Coolingatta $130

to Adelaide $130

to Launceston & Hobart $130

to Perth $160

to Darwin $185

to Townsville $180

to Cairns $180

I would expect the same prices from each place back to Melb too, but could be wrong.

ETA: These prices included crate hire.

Congratulations to Andrea and to SWay for being so inventive :p

Have a look at this link to VetWest (they are vets in Perth) It appears yes they can get morning sickness, see second paragraph

http://www.vetwest.com.au/breeding-whelping-or-birth