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  1. Will be interesting to see exactly what this involves. The problem is labelling something as a "puppy farm" based on what? Volume? I have less a problem conceptually with a large-scale operation that is professionally, ethically, and responsibly run. Rather than the boobs breeding mongrels in their back-yards in unsanitary and unsafe conditions. (And usually overbreeding, every season.) And what's this BS about stocking pet-shops with "rescue pups"? Even now, rescue pups are rare, and only occur when somebody surrenders an already pregnant bitch. So where do they expect to find all these pups?? Even if they actually mean rescue dogs, where will they come from? Unless they mean to continue to allow the backyard bogans to continue selling their mongrels on gumtree?
  2. Like so many things, it boils down to something quite simple.. You can buy a large flat-link slip collar for literally a couple of bucks. And it will last forever. I've lost a few over the years, but they will never wear-out, almost never break (usually a defective weld on the end ring if it does) and it will never go out of vogue. All of which is an unmitigated disaster for the multi-billion dollar pet-accessory industry. How can they exploit pet owners if they don't have something new to sell you every season? And of course, nothing motivates like guilt. The idea that you might be harming your dog if you're not using the latest fad brand-name accessory, is a powerful selling tool. The problem is exacerbated because some well-meaning owners, by dint of their own stupidity , are irresponsible, and seek to overcome this by being indulgent. I live in a beautiful area, dominated by large lakes which are surrounded by parks and nature reserves. There are warning signs everywhere, yet I see idiots all the time exercising their dogs either off-leash or on those stupid wind-up things. So how much do you love your dogs? I love mine so much that if I had to, I would yank them off their feet and out of harms way. For that reason I prefer a collar that I know they can't escape from, that will actually get tighter the harder I have to pull, and that won't suddenly sprong apart because its fitted with ease-of-use plastic clips. I'll trust my luggage to those clips, but not my dogs.
  3. Is my dog a dingo

    There are some elements there, but they are hardly unique to Dingos. Keep in mind that dingos have been breeding with domestic & farm dogs for over 200 years, so its possible Any Australian mixed breed could have a smidgen in there somewhere. At a guess, I would have said your girl is a ubiquitous "Kelpie cross" with any Dingo DNA well buried. The pronounced forehead crease is a trait, as are the pointed ears, but neither is unique. Unlike your girl, Dingos have a broad skull, and that is a dominant trait that will carry through several generations. With Dingos and first crosses there is a marked difference in colour between the back and the underside/ legs/ muzzle. Your beauty looks too uniform.
  4. I completely agree with the sentiment expressed in the OP. Sadly, far too many people are ruled by emotion, and simply cannot follow logic. Rescue is like trying to treat Gastro with a Cork. The problem needs to be fixed at the TOP, not the bottom. Unfortunately "rescue" also helps perpetuate the "all dogs are lovely" myth, which is the number one reason dogs get abandoned in the first place. Too many nongs out there, indiscriminately breeding whatever mongrels they can get their hands on, and flogging the cute puppies to unsuspecting dupes, without a thought to suitability.
  5. Oh yeah Daddy was definitely a Dingo. She is very loyal, and insanely protective of us and the other dogs.
  6. I'm no "bone expert" but I think its obvious that different animals have different types of bones. Probably different bone types even within the one animal, and bones that may change over time as the animal ages, becoming harder, or more brittle, etc. So some may dissolve quickly in the stomach, others may pass undigested. Unfortunately without experimenting in a lab, I can't be exactly sure. Also, keep in mind that items don't have to be particularly menacing to cause incredibly painful digestive distress. I'm in my 50's and can no longer tolerate small seeds. A roll with poppy seeds will just about kill me, and a single flax seed can nail me to the toilet for days. Point is, better to be safe than sorry, particularly with older dogs.
  7. Kelpies have no dingo genes

    Just goes to show what a load of old crock most of this so-called "DNA Analysis" is. It's a bit like those human DNA tests you can pay for, that claim to identify your geographical heritage. It's basically a guestimate, based on what they they believe to be the prevalence of particular markers in certain populations. The problem with so-called analysis, such as the "Dingo Analysis," is that it is based on circular logic. Even putting aside the original melting-pot of Dingo heritage, they have been interbreeding with farm dogs since the first settlers arrived. So even if you start with the idea that prior to European settlement there existed "Pure Dingos", the vast majority now are nolonger "pure". Similarly, to suggest that the Kelpie had a single-point of origin is a fanciful fairytale. So the problem becomes that in order to disprove the existence of "Dingo DNA" in Kelpies, researchers must first of all define "Dingo DNA" by identifying particular genetic markers that are present in wild Dingos, but not present in domestic dogs. As I said, circular logic. And even then, all you can actually say is that there is no "uniquely Dingo DNA" present in Kelpies. And even having done that, who's to say WHAT those unique markers represent? Could be they represent undesirable traits that would have been deliberately bred out of the Kelpie.
  8. Apologies upfront, I know this a purebred forum, but I've been a member here for a while. We got a pup from "friends" (farmers whose property neighbours my brother's). We met the mother a couple of times, a lovely healthy purebred Golden Lab (who is actively used for retrieving.) They'd always been careful, but obviously not this time. The obvious assumption was that it was their farm dog (or dogs?) who is a working Kelpie. Its my daughter's dog. She actually wanted a Kelpie, but I said they weren't suited to suburban life, so we thought this would be an ok compromise. The pups were all shades of gold & cream, which I thought was a little odd, as the Kelpie suspect was more of a tan colour from memory. She could easily be a Lab/Kelpie cross, except the colouring doesn't match the principal suspect. She is mostly pale cream, with the fawn over her back and head typical of pale dingos. Except that her ears are half-baked, she looks very much like this: I suppose in some ways it makes more sense that the father was a stray or wild dog. She is also food obsessed, beyond even the Flatties if you can believe such a thing is possible. That could just be the Lab shining through, but I've heard Kelpies are not. She has a big personality, but is also a big sook. At night she will sleep cuddled up to either Chloe or I. She loves to play with the other dogs, and can sometimes be a bit too frisky for them, but she never displays aggression. Oh, and did I mention that she howls?
  9. Breeding for colour

    Simple fact is that breeding from an arbitrarily reduced gene-pool is BAD. period. Then if you are able to genetically screen, infinitely better to screen for genetic deficiencies rather than colour. No dog is perfect, so chances are if you focus on colour it may be to the detriment of something else.
  10. Breeding for colour

    Well yes, what the article mentions, but should emphasise is that it is the inbreeding causing the problems, not the colour itself. Whilst always a problem when trying to breed specifically for colour, its compound with Labs, because breeders will usually only breed Chocolates with another chocolate or pure Black. (Mixing Chocolate and Golden lines can produce Dudleys)
  11. Vet warns of Greyhound Adoption Risk

    All Dog Breeds are not the same. It's the same with most "domesticated" animals, but more so because Dogs have been bred for such different purposes. Furthermore, many breeds, originally bred for a particular purpose, have over recent decades been bred as pets for temperament and companionship. Greyhounds haven't. To this day, they are bred to race. Their reputation as "couch potatoes" is not surprising. Even the fastest champion spends most of its life waiting around. So I would imagine that "patience" and "calmness" would be characteristics inherently enforced. (eg a dog that was constantly agitated would presumably not make a good racer and so would not be bred.) But they are still sighthounds with a huge prey-drive. I have Flatcoats. A wonderful gentle, passive, breed. But they can't be let lose anywhere near ducks, because, guess what, they want to retrieve them and break their necks. Go Figure. And I still come back to my original point, and I can't believe you would use the horrible euphemism "wastage." Surplus dogs, especially those not good enough to race, are simply murdered. It's horrific, and it should be stopped. GaP is simply a very small band-aid.
  12. What to feed a Puppy (& other questions)

    Just FYI, long story short, she's a farm dog. Mum's pure Lab, Dad half Lab half Kelpie. They THOUGHT they'd kept Mum in whilst on heat, but obviously not. Interesting mix in the puppies. We chose one who leans more towards the Kelpie side. So her diet at home was mostly rabbit (and Mum.) Bit hard to replicate so we went with Chicken.
  13. Some predictably knee-jerk reactions. I own Pedigreed dogs of a particular breed, always have and hopefully always will. The simple fact is that the vast majority of dogs are pets. The next largest population, in Australia, would be working dogs. Yes, a lot of Pet Buyers are ignorant, and these associations COULD have a huge role in educating them, I just wish they would do more to engage with the public outside their own small clique. I'm sure, that as within any population, there are wide variety of individuals within these organisations and clubs. I've met some wonderful people over the years; open, friendly, welcoming, informative. I've been invited to their homes, their kennels, and their shows. Unfortunately I have also met some rude and ignorant snobs. I guess that's just the human race. If only the associations were run by the dogs themselves we wouldn't have a problem. Keep in mind that my OP was regarding the response from the association rep that (via their website) publicly invites queries and questions.
  14. I need advice

    So sorry for your loss.
  15. Great Post, thank you. I fear these breed associations are fast becoming an anachronistic irrelevance. They claim to occupy the moral highground, and pontificate at length about the evils of everything, but actually do precious little to protect or promote their breeds. They need to lose their arrogance and understand that THEY are the aberration. Dogs are pets or working dogs. The vast majority of owners have no interest in breeding, and fewer still any interest in the arcane art of dog shows. Unless they can find a way down out of their ivory towers, and start engaging with the REAL dog owners, they will be reduced to a sideshow. IMHO that would be pity, and to the detriment of the breeds, but the ball is in their court. The sad thing is that they seem to not even realise how out of touch they are.