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Your heart is in the right place HarperGD. I think you will make a wonderful mommy to Harper. Don't be so hard on yourself and just hang in there.

I actually ended up keeping Harper and thank god I did because I love him to death!

The first week was the hardest but we stuck with it and things quickly got better.

We actually just went for our first walk together and it was lovely - he was so good!!

Msk - it sounds like you're going through the exact same thing as me, but I can promise it does get better

my dog Bisou is the same

Obviously they have never met Poppy! She doesn't pop in public! And she avoids wee'ing if out too! She much prefers her own toilet at home! Lol!

would love this idiot to provide some evidence that having dogs in an outdoor eating area actually poses ANY risk to public health and safety.. the fact is the evidence supports the opposite argument.

This is a blog article that appeared in our local paper yesterday regarding a recent law passed by Newcastle Council that allows dogs to sit with their owners in outside areas of cafes. The whole manner of the article irritates me with the seeming desire to equate dogs defecating at cafes etc.

http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-cor...580.aspx?page=4

Dining with dogs - Jeff Corbett

Newcastle City Council has changed its mind and now allows dogs to share outdoor dining areas with people, and illustrating that news item in the Herald early this month was a photo of one of Newcastle's doggiest people, Roy Duffy, with his dog Woody. Mr Duffy, a former Newcastle citizen of the year and the found of Doggy Fun Day, was pictured with Woody on his knee at a cafe table in Newcastle's Darby Street, a sight to warm a doggy person's heart. It won't, though, warm yours if you don't fancy eating with dogs.

Sure, Newcastle council stipulates that the dogs be on a leash, on the ground and not fed in the area, and sure, Mr Duffy had Woody on his knee for the purposes of the photo. But it won't be the first time you'll see a dog on a knee in a cafe in Newcastle. And you'll see big dogs slobbering over food even though they are on the ground. Newcastle council bars smoking in outdoor dining areas on the basis that the smell is offensive and the smoke a health hazard, but it allows doggy people to inflict their dogs on us in public dining areas even though the smell can be offensive and the dog excreta a health hazard. This came about because the council received one submission calling for change to its dogs and outdoor dining policy. Yes, just one, and it refuses to tell me who lodged that submission.

Yes, we may assume that a doggy person at a cafe would clean up his or her dog's poo, although we assumed the same for Newcastle's dog-legal beach, Horseshoe, which is now so littered with dog faeces it is out of bounds for most of us. And even if it is to be picked up, should we have to put up with dogs defecating under the table?

Why should anyone be permitted to inflict their dog on me, to contaminate my immediate surrounds, in public dining areas?

My dog is cleaner and more pleasant than the majority of people. I have never seen a dog defecate in an eating area and I think it's disgusting that this Jeff Corbett insinuates that dog owners would allow that to happen and then not clean up after their animal. Glad Newcastle has taken this step and wish the ACT government would do the same and stop fining owners of establishments that allow pet owners to enjoy a meal with their dog in an outdoor eating area.

This is a blog article that appeared in our local paper yesterday regarding a recent law passed by Newcastle Council that allows dogs to sit with their owners in outside areas of cafes. The whole manner of the article irritates me with the seeming desire to equate dogs defecating at cafes etc.

http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-cor...580.aspx?page=4

Dining with dogs - Jeff Corbett

Newcastle City Council has changed its mind and now allows dogs to share outdoor dining areas with people, and illustrating that news item in the Herald early this month was a photo of one of Newcastle's doggiest people, Roy Duffy, with his dog Woody. Mr Duffy, a former Newcastle citizen of the year and the found of Doggy Fun Day, was pictured with Woody on his knee at a cafe table in Newcastle's Darby Street, a sight to warm a doggy person's heart. It won't, though, warm yours if you don't fancy eating with dogs.

Sure, Newcastle council stipulates that the dogs be on a leash, on the ground and not fed in the area, and sure, Mr Duffy had Woody on his knee for the purposes of the photo. But it won't be the first time you'll see a dog on a knee in a cafe in Newcastle. And you'll see big dogs slobbering over food even though they are on the ground. Newcastle council bars smoking in outdoor dining areas on the basis that the smell is offensive and the smoke a health hazard, but it allows doggy people to inflict their dogs on us in public dining areas even though the smell can be offensive and the dog excreta a health hazard. This came about because the council received one submission calling for change to its dogs and outdoor dining policy. Yes, just one, and it refuses to tell me who lodged that submission.

Yes, we may assume that a doggy person at a cafe would clean up his or her dog's poo, although we assumed the same for Newcastle's dog-legal beach, Horseshoe, which is now so littered with dog faeces it is out of bounds for most of us. And even if it is to be picked up, should we have to put up with dogs defecating under the table?

Why should anyone be permitted to inflict their dog on me, to contaminate my immediate surrounds, in public dining areas?

Great response and interesting findings out of calgary!!!

i agree 100%

After reading the petition I was turned off by wording/grammar etc. But I completely agree with the concept that desexing of pets should be the norm, and is unlikely to be achieved without subsidized spey/neuter for people with limited resources. . . and I think the RSPCA's cost/benefit ratio would be improved by spending more on carrots and sticks to increase the rate of desexing, and decreasing the numbers of BYB's and accidental litters. . . . without cutting into efforts to prohibit puppy farming.

If anyone wants evidence, I'd recommend studying Santa Cruz County, California, where desexing became mandatory decades ago . . .along with a system of legal permits for breeders and subsidized spey/neuter for people of limited means, bans on pet shop sale of mammals and a variety of other measures.

Ok I'll bite.

Santa Cruz is a very expensive upper income white left wing coastal community made up of left wing nanny state thinkers. A state which is bankrupt from being run as a total nanny state, where the government tells everybody everything about how to live. Dogs in animal shelters, would they even have any domestic animals to go into a shelter? Just kidding. I am sure the rich children of movie stars, big name lawyers, and far left activists would never take an unwanted animal to a shelter. They would have their vet put it to sleep and give PETA a very big donation to amend for their selfish human ways.

Oh did I forget to mention that Santa Cruz is loved by PETA with many PETA members and big donators living there or their children attending Uni there (second home for many of the rich and famous on the left coast). If visiting be sure to get the PETA Veg Eatery guide to Sana Cruz. PETA is also ingrained and very active in the Uni campus. They have wonderful support of the media in SC and California. Here is a recent award given to a young person in Sana Cruz by PETA. http://www.goodtimessantacruz.com/santa-cr...eta-award-.html

Thanks but no thanks, never want to live anywhere like Santa Cruz. I never want to see anywhere in Australia mirror Santa Cruz society.

Try looking at Calgary Canada if you want to see real reform concerning the welfare of animals and built on a system of respect and encouragement of pet owners. Their system is working and not by taking away everyone's right to own animals or by pushing far left ideas on to the public.

http://saveourdogs.net/2009/04/03/%E2%80%9...erica%E2%80%9D/

I have followed this thread with interest. I have to agree. If this person can't even be bothered making a phone call I don't understand why she is so angry.

I've not had a problem buying from breeders. I got a puppy late last year from a wonderful breeder - didn't have any issues at all.

If you have a problem with one breeder, wouldn't you just try a different one? If emails aren't working, try the phone!

Personally my next dog would be from a rescue group - these dogs aren't flawed, they've just had a rough start to life.

Just let us know what the critera is and adjust our expectations.

And respond to emails and return phone calls. Assume every message could be a good home. Courtesy even for the time wasters who have done no research.

So if we agree we all want the same outcome (healthy registered puppies in good homes), how do we move forward from the blame and finger pointing?

What can breeders do, and what can puppy buyers do?

the OP was given that particular breeders critera with an invite to call the breeder. Instead they came here ranting about how bad the breeder was which turned into a general free for all bash the breeder thread - again!

All breeders will have different critera, there is no one size fits all. Some will sell to homes that others wouldn't touch with a barge pole. No good coming on here moaning and groaning that a breeder didn't reply to me sob sob. Move on to the next one. Just because they are on DOL does not mean they are the best or the most ethical. Plenty of breeders don't advertise on here. Look for breed clubs. Ring your state canine body. Keep asking and yes be prepared to sell your self.

these photos are amazing!!!! i love papillon puppies!!!!

how can this beautiful soul's life be worth so little?! i am disgusted