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Thanks for your kind thoughts. Realistically the poor little blighter probably never stood a chance because of all his other problems, (looong story), but they gave it their best shot. Still I can't help but think - maybe if I'd found it sooner?

RIP Monty 2006-2014 Passed away on 16th December from tick poisoning. I'll never forgive myself for not finding that bloody tick sooner. Thank you to the staff at the Animal Emergency Service and Veterinary Specialist Services who tried so hard to save him. I'm so sorry little buddy I don't know what else to say, deep inside my heart I know I let you down, and the part that hurts the most - I know you'd love me anyway. If you had the chance you'd chase away my frown. You were always entertaining with your funny little ways, always at full speed wherever you would go, and I hope you're running free now in some doggy 'after days' but I'll miss you more than you will ever know. I could beat myself up endlessly but that won't bring you back so I'll have to find a way to carry on. My tears for you will lessen somewhere further down the track but you'll never be forgotten though you're gone.

Talk about terrible dog's names, it was two out of three for me. Monty is registered as Mantassi Archiballs. The breeder was pissed off at being forced to register him (so I was told) and gave him that awful name in revenge. His original call name was Archie. I changed it to Monty because he is a true hairless, so therefore - the full Monty. Tallulah is registered as Dooettes Runtie,(because she was the runt of the litter apparently), original call name Runty. That's just awful, and Tallulah suits her to a T - she is the prima donna of the three dog pack. And then there is sweet gentle Effie with the big black hair and soulful eyes. She had been Effie for four years and I thought it suited her so I kept it. Her registered name is lovely too ... Belachi Midnight Magic. So, Effie for the hair and Midnight Magic for the eyes - perfect.

Cujo?

Aahh, I remember his Quasimodo; he was a star. So sorry to hear of his passing. RIP sweet boy.

Aahh, that is the question isn't it? I would think that if a place is being run for the keeping and breeding of animals for commercial purposes then it is a farm. So if the 'farm' animals happen to be dogs does that make it a puppy farm? I guess in the strict sense of the word it does. If it is kept clean and tidy and complying with all the relevant rules and regulations then it is a perfectly legal business and attacking the 'farmers' just makes us look like fanatics in the eyes of the general public. I don't really know the answer to the question to be honest, it's a bit like - what is a backyard breeder?

Uumh, the conversation I was reading was between someone called Debbie something or other and the owners (I think) of the place, and it was Debbie who had the potty mouth. So ... did the owners remove similar comments from them and leave hers there? If that's the case, that's not playing fair, it leaves Debbie looking like a total nutjob and them reasonable. I have to say if that's what happened they did a good job of the editing, just leaving enough responses (and her ranting about them not responding) to make it look genuine. I might go back and see if I can find it (if it's still there) and maybe PM it to you. oh okay i knew debbie met her on facebook from that page, she was one of the people i was talking to privately and yes some of the things she says is really bad i know but he was responding to her in the same manner and sometimes worse. but this is going back about 3-4 months ago now im talking about, i didn't seem to see him talking now he's shutup. but yes it would look like she's a nutjob if he has removed his own responses. Oh ok, this conversation took place on 25th September so obviously he has learned to keep his side of it calm, probably no editing required. Pity Debbie can't do the same because while she has a good argument she loses all credibility (as do we all) when it degenerates down to name calling and bad language. I hate puppy mills with a vengeance, but sadly over reactions to what we perceive as a puppy mill, but others see as a perfectly legal commercial enterprise, do more harm than good.

Uumh, the conversation I was reading was between someone called Debbie something or other and the owners (I think) of the place, and it was Debbie who had the potty mouth. So ... did the owners remove similar comments from them and leave hers there? If that's the case, that's not playing fair, it leaves Debbie looking like a total nutjob and them reasonable. I have to say if that's what happened they did a good job of the editing, just leaving enough responses (and her ranting about them not responding) to make it look genuine. I might go back and see if I can find it (if it's still there) and maybe PM it to you.

Well I dunno, sometimes I think I must be living under a rock. I had never heard of Billabong Creek Farm or Oscar's Law either for that matter, but this thread piqued my curiosity and as Google is my friend I ended up on the Billabong Creek Farm facebook page. Oh dear. It's pretty apparent which one comes across as the nutjob. Potty mouth indeed. Edited to add - Kudos to you Steve, fighting the good fight must be frustrating at times.

I've already got my old age dogs. Little couch potatoes that they are. :D

I've owned a dog aggressive dog in the past and I never saw any signs of aggression towards people. Actually he was super friendly with people, but I am talking about adults or older children, I was very very wary with him around small children. He would go on alert when small children were around, the same sort of alert I saw before he would try to launch an attack on another dog. I never gave him the chance to act on it so never knew for sure if he would attack a small child but I didn't trust him around them. I don't know whether I would have kept him if I had any young children (mine were grown) or grandchildren that were around regularly. Thankfully I never had to make that decision. I'm not sure what the problem was (if in fact there actually was a problem) maybe it was because they were on the same level as him so therefore eye to eye or something, thankfully once again I never had to address what may or may not have been a problem, but I would be hesitant to ever own a DA dog again, especially a relatively big powerful one, the risk is just too great. Incidentally he was a dalmatian.

Uumhh, I thought I noticed a ridge along his back in one photo. Edited to add .. just had another look and it might have just been the light.

Yep, had a look at the video, but had to turn it off about half way through, couldn't cope with the loud music. I admit they are awesome dogs and I totally agree that when dog attacks happen owners are more often than not more at fault than the dogs but unfortunately these dogs appeal to a certain type of owner. I don't know what the answer is, and I get that banning a particular breed probably isn't the answer either, but my point was that it feels a little hypocritical to say that we shouldn't have designer dogs because there are so many nice pure breeds to chose from and then fight like mad to hold on to one breed that rightly or wrongly is seen as being dangerous when once again we have so many other nice breeds to chose from. I used the term 'pit bull type' rather than just 'pit bull' because it seems to me that whenever these serious attacks occur they are usually mixed breed dogs, but if we can believe what we hear one of the mixes is nearly always pit bull. Maybe if we no longer had pit bulls these sort of owners would just turn to another breed, like someone mentioned, but there must be something about the breed that other breeds don't have for people who like to fight dogs to chose them over other breeds in the first place. I dunno, just thinking aloud really.

My partner made the comment that he couldn't understand why anyone would want 'that kind of dog' and I have to agree with him. We often say on here that we don't understand why people go out and buy designer dogs because there are so many lovely pure breeds to choose from. Well I don't understand why people insist on fighting to keep the pit bull type breeds when there are so many other lovely breeds to choose from. No one wants to see their lovely docile pet pitbull type dog put down because of some hastily prepared legislation, but banning the breeding (at least) of these dogs and therefore allowing the breed to eventually disappear doesn't seem unreasonable.

Yep, another doggie Mum and Dad here too, and our dogs are definitely not furkids. :banghead: