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Baby Dragon

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  1. Thanks everyone :)

    It's just so loud... he's always done the little 'wuf, wuf' sounds :) But this is more of an "I'm going to eat you" growl at 2am and it's quite scary to wake up to it (he sleeps beside me.) It's like a really loud growl he would do to warn off another dog if they get too close while he's trying to eat. I get up and have to make sure the dogs aren't fighting.

    Is that still a normal thing?

  2. My 9 year old dog has started growling in his sleep and waking himself up.

    At first I thought my other dog might have disturbed him or something, but it happened again last night and I saw that she was nowhere near him.

    When he wakes up he just kind of looks around and goes back to sleep.

    Does anyone else's dog do this? Is it something to worry about?

  3. Legitimate assistance dogs are screened and trained to exactly the same standards as guide dogs. Guide dogs are a 'type' of assistance dog, there is no legal distinction between the types of assistance an assistance dog gives.

    I agree with you that a pet dog that simply makes you feel better shouldn't just have a vest put on it and have it claimed as an assistance dog. That's not the way it works.

    The DDA (I posted the link last night) has a definition of what an assistance dog is under the law.

  4. The changes made to the DDA a few years ago were made to bring greater protections to legitimate guide/hearing/assistance dog users, to bring clarity to required documentation and to give greater protection to those in charge of public spaces to kick the fakers out.

    I guess in any industry you'll have the complainers, people doing the wrong thing, and ruining it for others. Not just the fakers, but also people in charge of public spaces. It's still a huge learning curve for everyone and I think better education is needed.

  5. I think you'll find that people with legitimate guide/hearing/assistance dogs are very aware of the laws and abide by them.

    It's most often the ones with the 'fake' dogs they're trying to pass off as guide/hearing/assistance dogs that are causing the problems and seem to be the ones that complain the most, as they run into the most access issues due to being unable or unwilling to produce correct documentation.

  6. im very familiar with the DDA LAWS, having read them several times and taken shop owners to court over refusing access.

    the only requirement dda say

    the animal is trained to meet standards of hygiene and behaviour that are appropriate for an animal in a public place.

    because a dog dosnt pee on things in a shop dosnt pull on a lead pretty much means its capable of passing the public access test which is a pretty low standard I know service dogs who are unable to pass basic ccd level of obedience but are considered trained enough to be service dogs due to passing the public access test (which there is also no legal requirement to pass it just makes court easier). no where does dda list requirements of training.

    no where in the law does it say the dog must be identified by the form of visual identification (ie vest) verbal communication is perfectly satisfactory though the use of visual aids like a vest prevent some embarrassing encounters.

    Please read the DDA sections pertaining to Assistance Animals, as it's obvious you're mistaking some overseas laws for Australian laws, when our laws are very different. If you're not sure, like I said, give the Human Rights Commission a call. They were extremely helpful to me many years ago when I started out with my first Assistance Dog and again when the DDA changed and stricter regulations were added.

    Some of the statements you've made (eg verbal identification is enough and there is no standard that an Assistance Dog must be trained to) are extremely worrying and if you're truly taking a dog into public places and claiming it to be an "assistance dog" then you really should know the laws. Otherwise you may be making public access even more difficult for people with legitimate assistance dogs who are abiding by the laws and regulations.

    You are correct in that part of assistance dog training is being sure they meet appropriate standards of behaviour and hygiene for being in a public place. This falls under standards that assistance dogs must be trained to (and conflicts with your prior statement that there are no standards that assistance dogs need to be trained to to be covered under the DDA.)

    What it comes down to is that it's every handler's responsibility to know the laws when they're handling an assistance dog in public. Assistance dog handlers do have rights, but there are also responsibilities, and some people seem to forget this fact. If you truly are taking a dog into public and relying solely on verbal assurances ("yes this is my assistance dog") while providing no proof whatsoever of the dog's training, then you are not covered under the DDA and your dog is not considered an assistance dog under Australian law, therefore you should not be claiming it as such.

    I'm not saying these things to be nasty - I know it can be confusing, but there are services out there to help, and it really does make sense to know the laws and your responsibilities if you are going to claim public access rights under those laws.

    If you choose to ignore them, that's your choice, but you will find it very difficult in the long run.

  7. verbal identification is enough since Australia doesn't have a standard and vests can be bought on the internet they are pretty useless.

    a doctors note saying the dog is required is enough.

    there is no standard a service dog has to be trained to, public access test isn't mandatory in any state (yet) but they cant ask you to demonstrate your service dog in action.

    a national standard system with id would be great.

    Much of the information you have is incorrect and this is greatly disturbing since you say you're currently using an "assistance dog."

    Part of the process of receiving a legitimate assistance dog is being educated on the current laws in Australia. It saddens me when people misquote them and still continue to work a dog in public :(

    You are correct that a doctor's note saying that you have a disability as covered under the DDA is considered proof of disability.

    You are incorrect that verbal assurance of training is enough and that there is no standard that an assistance dog has to be trained to in order to legally have public access rights.

    Have you read the link I posted to the Australian Disability Discrimination Act? Have a read of it, it explains a lot. If there's something you don't understand, give the Human Rights Commission a call and ask them about it.

    It's important that you understand your rights and responsibilities if working an assistance dog in public, for your benefit and for the benefit of the people at the location you're accessing with your dog.

  8. actually all people are allowed to ask is that a service dog and how does he assist you in your disability.

    it is illegal and demeaning to be asked to prove your service dog is a service dog, your private medical condition is between you and your doctor and the service dog is not a performing monkey, he doesn't do tricks he does an important medical job.

    I carry a letter from my doctor saying he is essential but doesn't reveal any medical info

    the public access test (we sit every year) and the disability laws.

    It sounds like you may be quoting USA laws there.

    Australian laws are quite different, and the Australian Disability Discrimination Act was changed a few years ago to state that you do need to prove that you have a disability (although you don't necessarily need to specify what the disability is) and that the Assistance Dog is trained to certain standards.

    If you can't prove certain things as stated in the Australian DDA, a public establishment can legally kick you out.

    Disability Discrimination Act 1992

    That's why the QLD Assistance Dog card system is so good - it covers those things and can easily be used as proof. A national card would be even better IMO.

  9. sorry damascaus is my current dog but due to age will be retiring soon

    church (a flat coat retriever) will be replacing him.

    damascaus was certified by aussie angles assistance dogs and mind dogs, should be denied access to a shop and press charges I can prove that damascaus is essential to my wellbeing.

    whilst there is no current service dog test or any form of id required (im in nsw) due to the number of fake dogs weve had problems getting access (in particular westfields Parramatta) aussie angels helped me press charges under the disability act .

    While there's no specific "ID card" in particular required, you do need to prove that you have a disability and that the dog is trained to mitigate the disability and behave to an acceptable level in public access situations. An ID card can go a long way towards this and it makes life easier for everyone.

  10. Thank you!! That's a good option!

    I guess I'm just being impatient and want the footage NOW so I can put the video together over the next few days lol the fundraising is this weekend so there's not heaps of time.

    Also, if I go to the pound, I might cry!

    So I thought if anyone had 10 seconds of video ready to go that was taken with permission, that they wouldn't mind letting me use that would just be easier.

    If not, that's cool! I have heaps of photos I have permission to use :)

  11. Hi guys,

    I'm putting together an awareness and fundraising video for a local rescue group and I'm after some help!

    They are a very small organisation and don't currently have any video footage of visits to the pounds.

    I'm wondering if anyone here has non copyrighted, legally taken video footage of dogs/cats in cages etc from pounds that rescues work in, that they wouldn't mind if I used it in my video?

    Even just 10 seconds of walking past the animals in cages. I just want to add it to my video if possible to give some perspective on what rescue organisations do.

    I'm not even sure if filming in pounds is allowed, so if it's not then please disregard!! I'm totally new to all this. But I don't want to just steal someone's footage from youtube etc, I'd like to have permission to use whatever footage we use.

    I hope all that makes sense!

    Can anyone please help me out?

    :thanks:

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