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Hi Bellaclan

I never ever sell 2 puppies from the same litter to any home. Two pups is not double trouble it can be absolute chaos.

I have enquiries on a regular basis for 2 and always recommend that they get one and then wait till about 12 months to get another if they feel that they can cope.

It is amazing how many of my puppy buyers thank me for not selling the second after they have dealt wih socialisation, training, toilet training and teething of just one puppy.

JMT

Hi

I have seen a few Shelties out of American and Canadian lines to Australian Lines and they have been very big.

I would think given her Canadian heritage that is where her size has come from.

I wouldnt worry about the chicken you are feeding your girl in the least.

Her genetic make up makes her a big girl not the food she has been fed.

Lovely information Tigerjack!!

Vets have always medicated dogs with Benadryl for Kennel Cough.

My vet in Victoria did and my vet here in Qld did when we got our dogs out of kennels.

I always have a bottle on hands these days rather than paying the exxy price the vet charges when they rebottle from a large bottle into a smaller bottle.

Hi Aziah

I got mine from the chemist this year. They are hard to come by anymore for some reason.

I think a small glass bottle cost us about $10.

You may have to try a few chemists and ask for Potassium Permagananate which is the other name for them.

How about a stainless steel bucket with a brick in the bottom under the tap. Much to heavy for most dogs to lift and carry around. The other thing you can do is dig a hole and put the bucket in it. Not ideal but it does work.

Personally we have troughs that we have full of water. They can go swimming in them if they must but they very rarely are emptied. We also use the same type for our sheep.

Our clam shell is currently empty and gets dragged around the yard by all and sundry and is a great place for playing keepings off.

And all of ours love the hose when we are filling up their buckets and troughs.

hi

If you are going to try an elimination diet you need one food source for at least a month to get things hopefully under control.

Try just chicken carcasses only to start with. Whole uncooked. If you need to add some salmon oil only.

See how your dog goes on this first. If you still have majot itchies then you know chicken is a problem.

Then try lamb, beef etc

Then try adding vegies.

An elimination diet is a long slow process. And if the itching starts you know to cut out that particular food totally.

I am a total RAW feeder and have never had any problems. If i have to feed kibble i have a few that i prefer but my dogs enjoy their meat and their bones and are healthy and happy.

Sometimes what is BARF diets does not agree with dogs. You might be better off making up your won BARF mix once you know what your problem is.

The other thing is where does your dog lie around at home. In the grass? In the dirt? On a hammock bed? It might also be something you are cleaning with go back to good old bleach and vinegar olnly for cleaning and see if things change. Change bedding too and keep it clean.

Hi again

I hae read the start of the rules. LOL 50 odd pages I'll be a long time understanding them thats for sure

Anyway it states clearly that by forwarding your passes to the ANKC that a certificate will be issued.

Whats the cost?

Hi Tracey

For those that are not in the know can you please direct us to an online site for the herding rules.

I also have a question. It seems that the TCA has been giving herding instinct titles on dogs with 2 passes at herding instinct certificate level. What can be done about it so that the all CCC's understand the differences between the two levels?

Thanks in advance

Hi Tracey

I dont see why not! Bi monthly at least people would know where and when they could at least have a go. You probably wouldnt get the massive overload like Saturday either which would make for a less frantic time for the committee and participants too.

I certainly wont be bringing that many dogs next time tho. I only have a few left to do now. Thank goodness.

Back to bathing puppies for me now.

Hi tracey

There sure was a lot of grumbling. Pity that so many did not take the opportunity with good grace.

I must admit I was there at 8am so i too had a long day had to deal with puppies and other dogs before i even walked out the door. Then found that some rotten dogs had chewed through the wires on my trailer so an emergency fix job had to be done before I left.

I have now been saved from a verbal assuage cos i got out there and tried. I have some very happy breeders and co owners and some excited puppy owners hopefully I can get a few more out to try once their pups are old enough.

It certainy was an interesting mix of breeds that tried. Borders, Aussies, Belgians (all 4 varieties i believe), ACD's Kelpies,Briards...... did I see some Corgis too. Not sure that we saw Shelties or Collies tho.

Hope the next time is just as fantastic a turn out.

I sure learnt heaps just watching!!

hi Tracey

It was an awesone turn out for sure. I have never seen so many people so keen to try their dogs out on stock.

I sure came home tired but happy. Sunburnt too of course.

The Herding sub committee should take a bow for putting on such a great event and for making it so affordable and really so easy for so many to try their dogs out. I hope that soon more trials can be at Durack. Cos I will be there with a few more next time definitely.

I have a question tho can HIC be done on ducks? and when where ducks introduced and at what level was the first time they were introduced?

Congratulations to the sub herding committee they should be extremely proud of themselves and their efforts.

I must have been mad to enter 8 but geez was i thrilled to see some of them really turn on.

Now i have to get my round yard built so i can continue training over the summer.

Well the WDC of Qld need to be congratulated for a long and exhausting day for both triallers, judges and helpers. But what a day. Thank you all so much for an entertaining and informative time.

Any way i am pleased to say that i took 8 of my dogs either owned or bred and we brought back 8 dogs with HIC certicificates.

So the following dogs now have their HIC's

Ch Korella Mystic Legend CD ET (Border Collie)

Korella Krystal Fire (Border Collie)

Ch Luvstock Andromeda (Border Collie)

Ch Hotnote Brandy Snap (Aus Shep)

Wylie Forbidden Lust (Border Collie)

Wylie Lord Ov The Stars (Border Collie)

Trumagik Secret Whisper (Border Collie)

Hotlee Inthe Heat Oth Nite (IID) (aus Shep)

And another of my breeding also

Wylie Symphonic Legend CD (Border Collie)

On now to HT and PT (hahahahaha)

Just keep feeding those pups every 2 hours its the best you can do.

Make sure mum is getting as much as she can eat and keep giving her the pups to clean and keep trying them on her the more they attempt to suck on her the more milk she should bring in.

Doesnt matter whether it is divetalc or biolac as long as it is for puppies.

What sort of bottle are you using to feed them with? People have various ideas i just like normal baby bottles for newborns and have had no trouble up till now with pups being able to suck on them.

Make sure they are being cleaned as they cannot do it themselves. If mum cant do it you will have to do it for them.

We handraised a litter at the beginning of the year, we lost one but the others did fine with lots of TLC. A lot behind other litters but they have more than caught up now that they are 8 months old and so far have a wonderful bond with humans and are extremely doggy social as they were socialised by some of my other girls.

Its a long hard road but I am more than sure you can do it.

Best of luck

Its based on about 10 km per hour. Which is actually quite slow in most dogs eyes. Its a good jog or an easy bike ride whichever way you do it.

My guys thought it was a bit of a doddle as they were used to going much faster in training for it. So they pulled like the dickens at the beginning, they soon settled down and were raring to go after the breaks.

They came home and then wanted to play games as they were not tired enough. Lots of ball throwing later they had a kip and were back wanting more.

Sorry to hear about your loss Tracey. Words are never enough.

Here's another one

While milk is not necessary to a dog's (or cat's) diet, it can be a treat if given from time to time. However, some pets cannot tolerate milk because they do not produce an enzyme called lactase. Lactase helps with the digestion of lactose, which is found in milk. After weaning, the level of lactase activity falls to about 10 per cent of its peak activity. In some animals, diarrhea will occur if more lactose (i.e. milk) is consumed than the pet can digest. This is called "lactose intolerance".

A further contributing factor is the fact that cow and goat milk contains 4.5 to 5 per cent lactose, compared to 3.1 per cent in a bitch's milk (lactating female dogs) and 4.2 per cent in a queen's milk (lactating female cats). The high level of lactose in cow's milk can overpower a dog or cat's ability to digest it. This is why many pups and kittens often get diarrheea from drinking cow's milk. This does not mean that milk is unhealthy for dogs and cats. On the contrary, in pets that are able to tolerate it, milk can be an excellent source of protein and calcium.

Pets with milk intolerance can still consume dairy products under certain circumstances. For example, dairy products such as cheese (including cottage cheese) and unpasteurized yogurt usually have the lactose removed or have it partially broken down through bacterial action. As a result, these products are often well tolerated by cats and dogs that would otherwise get diarrhea after drinking milk.

It should be stated that neither boiling milk nor the use of skim milk affects an animal's ability to tolerate milk, since the lactose content remains unchanged in either case. The same applies to pasteurized yogurt and cultured milk (e.g. buttermilk), neither of which is well tolerated by lactase-deficient pets.

If a dog or cat has loose stools whenever milk is fed, that pet is likely to be lactose intolerant and milk should be withheld. It is also wise to advise your veterinarian of this fact and discuss the potential implications involved with regard to your pet.

Oh what wonders google searches do. By the way this is not from a BARF or Raw website

The only milk product Billinghurst recommends is Kefir.

The history of kefir is centuries old. The word "kefir" is said to have originated from the word "keif" which means" good feeling". Kefir is like yogurt, but with a greater variety of cultures and significant health benefits. Unlike yogurt, which typically contains only two or three different bacteria, true kefir contains a greater range of different microorganisms, each with its own unique contribution. This is what separates kefir from all other cultured milk products. Kefir is made by fermentation of "kefir" grains, which resemble minute cauliflowers. The grains consist of casein and colonies of microorganisms that are grown together symbiotically. Kefir can only be made from pre-existing grains.

The cultured kefir added to Dr. Billinghurst's BARF DIET™ processes antimicrobial activity against a wide variety of gram positive and gram negative bacteria, helping to eliminate destructive pathogenic yeast and internal parasites. The cultured kefir in Dr. Billinghurst's BARF DIET™ also contains a unique extract of colostrum. All mammals produce colostrum, sometimes called "first milk" or "foremilk". Research has shown that concentrated forms of colostrum are able to block the effects of harmful pathogens and aid in the maintenance of a healthy intestinal tract. Colostrum also contains other nonspecific immune factors including lactoferrin and lactoperoxidase, which help control pathogens or harmful bacteria. These natural immune components can recognize and resist multiple species of common bacteria such as E. coli, Staphylococci, Streptococci, Klebsiella, Enterococci, Pseudomonas, Clostridium Difficile, and Cryptosporidium.

Kefir is considered to be one of the richest sources of enzymes. It plays a vital role in the development of a healthy digestive tract and helps improve the immune system. Kefir contains minerals and essential amino acids, an abundance of calcium and magnesium. Rich in vitamin B1, B12, calcium, amino acids, folic acid and vitamin K, it is an excellent source of biotin which aids the body's assimilation of other B vitamins. Other benefits include bowel regularity and decreased lactose intolerance. Evidence shows that the appropriate strains of lactic acid bacteria in fermented milk products can alleviate symptoms of lactose intolerance by providing bacterial lactase to the intestine and stomach. Kefir is recommended to restore intestinal flora while recovering from illness or when being treated with antibiotics. It eliminates unwanted toxins and pollutants in the body, just like antioxidants do with free radicals. Kefir enjoys a rich tradition of health claims and is known around the world for its preventative characteristics.

I am not going to get into the vaccination debate. Sorry.

Yes he does give his pooch his milk

Puppy milk is available at your local supermarket in the dog food section. I think its called Pets Own. I think it is a blue tetra pack and comes in two sizes which just goes to show how long it is since i have bought it.

If I have to supplement feed pups that are not yet weaned I tend to use one of the milk replacers like Divetelac or Biolac.

Dogs are carnivores and cant go out and get themselves a bottle of milk. LOL

If you are going to feed milk you would be better off feeding goats milk (now thats an expensive option), it is apparently much closer to being a bitches milk.

You need to join some of the barf or raw groups that are around on Yahoo.

I cant tell you much more other than that as my Billinghurst books are packed away and my RAW book I just lent to a friend who was having a huge debate with me about feeding her dogs table scraps and dry.

You could always try raw whole eggs my guys adore them. They eat them shell and all.

If you need info on groups just let me know and I will be happy to point you in the direction.

I really think you need to decide what sort of diet you are feeding her and stick to that and modify her feed according to that diet.

Are you feeding a BARF diet or a RAW diet. They are both very different.

Milk is not advisable in either of those feeding styles.

Usually when a dog is constipated here it is because they have been fed to much bone and not enough meat.

Small amounts of fresh liver are helpful as well.

Have you tried hearts they are a muscle meat which is good chewing with lots of nutrition in them. My pups adore them.

I feed a modified RAW diet (very very minimal dry, its really only in emergencies) and my pups get some dry as I know ther new owners on the whole will feed them some dry kibble. My 7 week old pups can chew a chunk of heart or a chicken drumstick or a lamb flap with the best of the adults. Thy have never been constipated and they are growing nicely.

I'd up her meat component without the bones and add a bit of oil to her diet as well to keep them nice and soft with some of her veg.

She can actually do a lot of damage to herself if she is continually straining.

Good luck and I hope that you have no further occurences.

Hi Dogdayz

There can be an allergic reaction to C3, C4, C5 and C7 if it is a live vaccine.

There can also be a sensitivity to ivermectin and its derivatives which is found in a lot of heart worm treatments.

Your breeder would be the best peron to ask in terms of sensitivities.

Its not just Collies Rough and Smooths that can have vaccine reactions it is also Border Collies, Australian Shepherds and Shetland Sheepdogs and probably Bearded Collies as well.

And yes I have a vaccine reaction in an Aussie which was mild but something that I am very aware of these days.

Killed vaccines are the best way to go not live in these breeds.

There is a test available for ivermectin sensitivity it is still expensive but is one way to find out.

It is one of the reasons that all theses breeds should not be put on any ivermectin or ivermectin related heart worm medications. The long acting heart worm medication is one of those.

Vets are great in their general knowledge most of the time but do not on the whole know breed specifics. Ask your breeder first and foremost they will or should know. An example of this is in Borders is CL how many vets actually know about this disease? Not many I am sure!

I am so sorry for your loss Mel. She is waiting for you at the Rainbow bridge remembering the happy times she spent with you.