Sherlot

long time since I visited here!!! yeah our last trials saw some of the best entries wa has had yet. Sue Fed was our lovely eastern states judge,

some great runs too!!!

and yes weasels got to play with the star of the day.. although she is being pain in the butt with the 3 key now!

it will be a massive shame to lose you weasels and mr weasels.. WA's loss is a massive gain for SA

A lot of our ANKC herders also do 3 sheep trials,utility trials and yard dog trials. I am the only one of our advanced people who hasn't got my act together to do an official 3 sheep trial though I have done unofficial ones and had a go at unofficial yard dog trials, which I really enjoy despite not having a dog really suited to yard work.

I'm not sure we even have any advanced dogs competing at the moment. We only had 1 intermediate run this morning & the rest were started or tests. I'm not aware of any crossover between ANKC & yard/ 3-sheep here either

We do run the B course here in WA only myself and Steph are trained to run on it.. but hopefully more will be attempting the B course started towards teh end of 2012.

we dont have any dogs yet at advance level.. mostly started with a scattered few intermediate dogs.. we'll get there soon... I'm scared of the competition coming up behind me..

nice work today on ducks too weasels.. you'll get there with sheep :)

but at least you'll know what you or your dogs are doing wrong...

let us know how you go at your trials.. joining a club is not "necessary" but it supports that club and in turn the club supports you...

I'm president of the all breeds herding club of wa.. to enter our trials you dont need to be a member.. but its great to have members in our club.. and I look foward to seeing everyone of them and the non members at trials.. in some of the others states there are a few clubs that herd, we are the only one in WA..

I'm glad you entered. just relax and enjoy yourself.. it'll be a fun day :)

I haven't posted my entries off yet.. so I hope they are still open...

if you try, you'll know what your doing wrong.. if you get a pass out of your 2 attempts or both attempts you'll almost have a title.. worth it I think.. if you completely suck on the first run, we can hold the second to a later trial in the year.. we are not about taking money..

I just spent the morning training on ducks Only their 3rd time and they did so well! Especially Weez :D Going to put them in Started ducks at the first 2012 trial next month :) We still have issues to iron out on the sheep, so not sure yet if I'll enter them in HSAs runs.

enter them in sheep also, you'll know what to improve on in training and they'll and you'll get experience at a trial level.. its well worth it.. and you might even sneak in the pass

have you looked at the dogswest website

entries have closed for the 18/19th show

i would never ever start a new dog herding chickens... it will either put the dog off, or cause the dog to get pissed off..

turkeys will be almost as challenging,

you need to do some basics with sheep..

if you really can't then you need to have a strong stop command. so if the dog does attack or do something wrong you can stop it. basic obedience training is a must..

OK thanks! I'd googled it but it still didn't quite make sense, but I think I get it now :D

I guess in basic, means when you are walking in a straight line (with your sheep and dog behind you) and your dog instead of weaving nicely behind you, "overflanks" by going too far wide, therefore your sheep instead of walking nicely in a straight line behind you weave. when trialing this costs you 1/2 a point per weave depending on the severity of the weave.. so ideal to iron out in training if you can..

I'll explain in picture if I cant you at training, else ask steph if you see her.. else I'll explain it better if you come to the General meeting..

Got it, thanks! I think I've seen Chess do that with Tom, possibly because she gets bored when everything is going smoothly (she also used to randomly charge the sheep to give her something to do picking them up again. A very 'kinetic' dog that girl). I haven't noticed it on the Weasel,possibly because when he gets bored he just goes and eats sheep poop until he's needed again.

once your trialling its costly!! its ok in the tests.. but as you go further into training you'll train that out of them.. sooty used to be a turd.. he still overflanks all the time.. but not as bad..

OK thanks! I'd googled it but it still didn't quite make sense, but I think I get it now :D

I guess in basic, means when you are walking in a straight line (with your sheep and dog behind you) and your dog instead of weaving nicely behind you, "overflanks" by going too far wide, therefore your sheep instead of walking nicely in a straight line behind you weave. when trialing this costs you 1/2 a point per weave depending on the severity of the weave.. so ideal to iron out in training if you can..

I'll explain in picture if I cant you at training, else ask steph if you see her.. else I'll explain it better if you come to the General meeting..

Well done on the title Sherlot. I am amazed you even made it to the trial after your big week

it was a day out in the sun and a break from it all that I needed.. a good friend of mine was going to offer to handle for me if I needed.. but I decided to enjyo the sun..

Well after some confusion about whether we needed another PT pass causing some trouble, in the end both our kelpies ran nicely for their final PT

I even got a nice straight walk-up from the Weasel to complete the penning We're pretty happy with them considering they were both in shelters less than a year ago!

The only downside was that I forgot the camera

I didn't get to see your runs.. I entered sooty into to much and ended up exhausted..

I got my HSAd title now!!!

a few titles went out to alot of people.. was a good day over all.. will update the website tomorrow, tonight I'm to tired..

our herding weekend is on sunday, with duck and sheep runs..

hopefully sooty behaves and gets his duck title...

Hi Sherlot, I only sent my entry for the trial off on Monday , do you think there'll still be room for 2 kelpies?

We need another PT pass under a non-Steph judge.

Good luck with Sooty!

I'm sure you'll fit in.. we try to fit all tests in.. if it was a trial, we might not let you..

so you entered under sue then I guess... I'm not judging this weekend!

our herding weekend is on sunday, with duck and sheep runs..

hopefully sooty behaves and gets his duck title...

Thanks very much for all your posts. No wonder I am confused - it really is a bit of a lottery.Breed I am considering is a Standard poodle. Breed average 15 for hips I think?I didn't ask about elbows but will do now. And also size (height/weight of parents). Some are light and sprightly, some are quite heavy. I prefer them light.

if breed average is 15... 16 is not much above that...

Are there any training days coming up in SA? I have a coolie who has worked on a dairy farm and has the basics but needs more education, which I do too.

they have just started up a herding club in SA. message piper in the forums for more information about herding in SA

good luck with your test passes..

the next trial in wa is in august, but i'll be in melbourne, so I wont be able to trial or judge..

wow, thats impressive a rottie performing so well!!! we need to organise a national herding comp..

Why is it impressive that it was a Rottie? They are a herding breed after all. Sorry but it has been one of my pet peeves that everyone is "OMG a rotti herding". A non herding breed would be an OMG moment. All the Rotties have been nice workers that I have seen.

Sherlot I have been to comps and have pretty much had the only border collie there! Lots of variety of dogs in Victoria doing herding.

its impressive as hardly anyone trains them to be herding champs...

and I'm the only one in wa with border collies

wow, thats impressive a rottie performing so well!!! we need to organise a national herding comp..

we had a very full weekend in perth this weekend..

31 runs in total, 2 judges, Jane from SA and myself

7 dogs trailling and 12 trials runs across both the pm and am shows

most dogs gaining first passes in trial runs.. a couple of dogs gaining titles..

14 test runs with numberous dogs gaining test passes.

and 5 duck runs

by 6pm I was exhausted and in trouble for being late home

We have access to 2 properties and 2 lots of stock. 1 lot get used for training more than the other because their owner does some private lessons.

Just need someone south of the city who will do lessons with ducks!

I need to win lotto....

ducks are so much more fun and challenging than sheep... sooty and I have our first run on them next weekend

We have access to 2 properties and 2 lots of stock. 1 lot get used for training more than the other because their owner does some private lessons.

in perth we have a few choices of stock, all owned by the same person.. but varieties of breeds of sheep and after a season of training on this lot of sheep we have they are fair from course trained.. they are almost as wild as the day we started on them.. its a great challenge to have sheep that dont know the course..

we have 2 courses and hopefully a third on the way.. all a massive variety of size..

just out of interest..

which states train their dogs on the stock used in trials on the trial courses?

i guess that makes it hard... I dont train my dogs weekly, can you spare 1 day fortnightly?