Freetoroam

I showed them in early 2000’s out and around Dubbo and a couple of specialties.

cesarian was required in the end. Bell had no inclination to push.

4 beautiful buns and one recovering Mum later all is well.

Long and exhausting day for all concerned. 

Can’t upload pics as my phone has them set too large.

see what I can do tomorrow 

Congrats on your babes Allerzeit.

Years back I owned and exhibited two Treverhund Rottweilers.

Still my all time love. A magnificent breed.

would love to have another in our family one day 

We are excited to be expecting our first Pom litter today. 

Second stage has begun. So nervous and excited all in one 

On 9/19/2017 at 3:04 PM, Tassie said:

Not sure how long your fence is, but I would have thought a much better option would be something like chicken wire,  bent so that you can bury part of it in the ground, and the rest going up the fence.   The Poms should not be able to get through or over or under that, and it would be so much kinder and safer.   It would also help to discourage snakes from coming in.   .. although they could still come over.

 

Thanks Tassie. We have chosen not to go with the containment. In turn opting to work on improving our yard fencing and possibly adding the snake proof mesh.

Thanks all for your input, much appreciated

Would love some feedback on your Advocate experiences please?

I have used this in the past on many dogs in a shelter environment with no adverse reactions.

However my Aunt has used this for the past 7 months and the last two times her Chi has reacted behaviorally. Padraig has been agitated, and hasn't gone near my Aunt until early this morning. This time was the worst. I have advised her to speak with the vet. In the mean time please share with me any adverse reactions you have witnessed.

Thank you

On 9/14/2017 at 10:59 PM, Tempus Fugit said:

There is also the issue of not leaving the collar in place for more than 10 hrs at a time otherwise the dog can get skin necrosis sores from the electrodes rubbing the skin.

I used one about 20 yrs ago to deter fence jumping & fence fighting but I fully concur with the other posters re run thru.

Thanks for this feedback Tempus Fugit. Would only be in use of a weekend when we are home although unable to monitor them in the yard. They are housed whilst we are working and of a night with us within our home.

100% respect the opinions received so far, has given us more to consider and look into at this point

On 9/14/2017 at 8:29 PM, Jumabaar said:

In many states it is illegal to use a hidden fence without a solid fence as well to contain dogs. Mush safer to use a pen with a roof!!

Thanks Jumabaar.

We refuse to pen our dogs as they are pets and have chosen for them to run free in our  fenced yard. However if we feel the system is not for us then we will consider building something in which suits our dogs needs.

This fence I am inquiring about is used by a l business owner whom has Maremmas to protect their Free-range Chickens. She has highly recommended this particular system after doing her homework prior to purchasing and using. 

On 9/14/2017 at 6:24 PM, The Spotted Devil said:

I agree. I'm actually lead animal behaviour/welfare for a company that is commercialising virtual fencing for cattle. And it is SO much further advanced than the dog containment fences in terms of welfare. 

Interesting to know this. I will be sure to do my homework.

Thank you

On 9/14/2017 at 3:12 PM, persephone said:

If this is to be your primary means of containment, then I would not suggest you try it.

Dogs can, and do run thru the zap when full of adrenaline.

We do have a farm fence around our house yard. Our Poms are pets and not kept in kennels as such so is very important we obtain a containment which works, is reliable and difficult to breach. Hence why I am seeking feed back. We are aiming at it being an aid in their training to stay within the house yard. Unfortunately our house yard is against a boundary fence to our neighbors. Another challenge to work through.

Thanks Persephone

On 9/14/2017 at 2:14 PM, Mrs Rusty Bucket said:

I've seen them used successfully - you have to do the right training and you have to have a dog that is not "collar smart". 

Personally - i think I'd rather not.  It does mean putting an electric collar on your dog and teaching them the "escape" method ie to escape the zap - you must come back here... I'm thinking if you can train that - you can train them not to nick off.  

It is possible  depending on the collar - for a frightened dog (eg thunderstorm) to blast through the fence pain and keep going and then the collar will be out of range - but they can't get back home cos they will be zapped returning.

The fence at the house I'm in at the moment is not secure if my dog decided to jump it - and she's trained to jump agility... So i don't leave her outside alone when I'm not home.  There are many reasons to keep a dog inside when you're not home... can't eat baits, and it's more of a deterrent to thieves, council can't take your dog...

Thanks Mrs Rusty Bucket.

Our dogs are kept inside when we aren't home as we live on a farming property.  Unfortunately though when we are home they are able to roam free easily due to the farm fencing. Our main fears are wondering off too far and obtaining the neighbors baits or encountering snakes etc. Also out here Roos' are known to disembowel a dog.

Much to consider when  living out here with such a small breed.

Truly appreciate your feed back

16 hours ago, Papillon Kisses said:

These days they recommend large breed puppy diets. They are adapted in a way to help prevent these issues.  

This is exactly what we were recommended to stay away from whilst a pup was experiencing this condition. A rush of too much calcium and protein was causing it. The results witnessed were favorable when pups were fed a super premium adult kibble.

Can I ask, how is this puppy going now?

We would see this often in the Shelter environment in my animal rescue days. Often caused by poor or incorrect diet. Feeding a large breed puppy on adult would generally rectify this and at times a splint was required.

As an owner of large breeds in the past, I was always recommended to only feed an adult diet to a puppy by the breeder. Just as in the wild on raw, there was no such thing as a special diet for puppies so why do it now. 

However a vet who does not specialize in any particular large breed will argue the fact and only recommend puppy. 

I hope all goes smoothly for both pup and owner

Hi Shane,

I hope you find what you are looking for soon. 

Possibly, if you have an idea of what breed you are wanting, I highly recommend approaching breeders who have advertised on DOL and go from there.

All the best

Hi all,

Was wondering if any one has used the Hidden Fence containment system please?

• If so what have been the positives and the negatives?
• Can more than two collars be utilized

Cheers  

On 9/1/2017 at 11:11 AM, Hunbun said:

 

 

Thank you, I'm making sure I get as many puppy kisses as I can haha! 

I will be making my own raw eventually, just want to ease myself into it.  I ended up getting the leading raw puppy barf patties, we'll see how that goes.

 

Hopefully the photo works, thats her on the first day home

So very cute. Got to luve puppy kisses and there is nothing better than puppy breath

2 hours ago, Hunbun said:

So at this stage I have ordered her a sample bag of Frontier Pets and  picking up some raw patties today. My local shop has the Big Dog brand 

and also Complete Pet Food Company patties, has anyone heard of these or used them?  http://www.completepet.com.au/pet/raw-food/about-our-raw-food/what-is-in-the-complete-meal-for-dogs Ingredients look simple and good and it's made locally. 

 

I haven't heard of these brands Hunbun. All I can recommend is do your research :.  However I do like to make my own raw food. This way I am aware of what goes into it. Good luck with your new journey and enjoy that little one of yours 

I have Poms 

I too became excited when I came across this topic after only just discovering Meg and Starkehre 

1 hour ago, Starkehre said:

Yep, sure have FTR, but not slate, sorry. I use it on ceramic tiles every time I vacuum and have used it on concrete. It is tough because it is not all plastic like most vacuums. Some parts of the motorhead are plastic, but extremely hardened, unlike the Dyson. The brushed roller is steel. There is a groove along it than I can run the knife along to remove all my hair out of it too ;)

Sounds perfect for us. Those darn Dyson's are mainly plastic and not worth the money spent on them to be honest unless you are on carpet.

Will be adding a Sauber Intelligence to my wish list once our faulty new top loader is sorted 

Beautiful dogs Meg 

Starkehre can you please tell me if you have utilized it on hard floors please? We have very unforgiving slate.

Cheers

This one sounds good Sparkycat, cheers for sharing 

I came across a lady on FB asking questions regarding her overweight Pom x. People jumped in giving recommendations on how much to feed her Pom to assist in reducing the weight. Unfortunately all were giving her amounts based on an average pom weight of 2 KG. 

I messaged  the owner and discovered her Pom was recommended to drop to 7 KG by her vet. Meaning the Pom wasn't as most advisers had predicted. This poor lady was ready to feed her baby 40 grams of raw feed daily. 

There was no attempt by anyone other than myself to dig deeper.

We have the V6 Hard floor cordless. It is great however our slate floors are rough on it. Also I am finding the pet and human hair becomes tangled in the head wheels etc. I would also love to hear about one in which doesn't become caught up in hair please.

Thanks all for your tips. Much appreciated

I did meet with a local exhibitor yesterday who showed me where i was going wrong. Was excellent to have the one on one assistance.

So now comes the training

Hi Showdog,

Her stack is just ok. Will attempt to sit unless I support her stack.